The Elite
BOSS
While I love FFXIV the part I bolded here can be incredibly frustrating to deal with.
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Final Fantasy XV - Review Thread [Second wave of reviews coming in]
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While I love FFXIV the part I bolded here can be incredibly frustrating to deal with.
Dragon1893
Member
Honestly better than I expected.
Congrats to Tabata and company for getting this ship through such stormy seas.
Congrats to Tabata and company for getting this ship through such stormy seas.
And not only that, it feels more final fantasy (more SINGLE PLAYER final fantasy) than any final fantasy to me since IX. The story is just top notch and really feels like you are being taken on a journey. Modern FF outside XIV just does not cut it. So to discount it just because it's an MMO is too easy...
ALLseeingEYE
Member
Yup, game reviews are subjective. The same game reviewed by a different crowd, in different circumstances could have landed higher or lower.
86 is an excellent score, and I'm actually surprised to see it do so well. Color me more interested and confident in the game than I was before. Seems like FF is back on track.
Yeah FF mmo are story focused and have traditional last bosses (to an extent). Actually it seems Square pulled off two miracles now. Brought back an mmo from absolute demise, and released a good game after a crazy 10 year cycle.
Anime child fetish aside, the issue is that characters like these aren't sexy, they are caricatures of sexy.
Most women aren't anti-sex or anti-sexy: look at Buffy the Vampire Slayer, for example. There is lots of sexy and sex (both empowered and degrading) that a female audience has no problem with because the characters are so well done and believable.
That was accounted for.
There is no game with combat quite like it
I think reviewers are afraid to score this game properly knowing the backlash they will receive.
If the biggest negative is that lack of story I don't see how anyone could give this game such a high score. The story portion of an RPG might be the most important part. It's the basis which the game is built on. If the story is abysmal and not interesting why would I want to even play or continue to play and get the outcome and figure out what happens next? It's like forcing yourself to read a bad book or watch a bad movie.
If the biggest negative is that lack of story I don't see how anyone could give this game such a high score. The story portion of an RPG might be the most important part. It's the basis which the game is built on. If the story is abysmal and not interesting why would I want to even play or continue to play and get the outcome and figure out what happens next? It's like forcing yourself to read a bad book or watch a bad movie.
BRocknRolla
Member
While I think your stance is extreme, I can appreciate your commitment to it. I've definitely avoided playing things that are overly sexualized because I know my wife would find them distasteful (I frankly do too, but given that I've seen so much of it over my history of playing games, I can give thinks a strong eye-roll and move beyond them). I really don't want to play a game full of unnecessary T&A, because I know I won't enjoy it, and it'll ultimately reflect poorly on my taste in video games to my wife. It's the same reason I avoid most anime (Besides the fact that I think a lot of it is just plain awful). I might want to enjoy some sort of mecha show, but it's hard to watch it when a lot of female characters are just high-pitched voices with enormous breasts attached.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Pleasantly surprised. Just put in my preorder.
brandonh83
Banned
Yeah. I played so many hours of the game solo, I play these things mostly to relax; it's not like I don't want challenge or think it's a bad thing obviously, but it went from like over a hundred hours of playing and enjoying at my own pace to having to participate in raids with a bunch of dickheads, and sometimes the dungeons/bosses had tricks to them that more seasoned players took for granted but I had absolutely no fucking idea what was going on and they were treating me like an idiot.
The solution is to play with your own people, but eh.
FFXV is reviewing well. I don't get your point?
ethomaz
Banned
That is a myth.
People says that to excuse for the rushed quality of some recent games.
Starting to derail the FFXV thread with FFXIV stuff, but... that's what most impressed me about FFXIV. How, despite being mostly solo, and an MMO (that's a weird combo to begin with), it's still got this "party" feeling down wonderfully.
Creating this party and alliance of unlikely allies and rivals, bound by mutual goals, who challenged each other's worldviews and ethics, having those moments by the campfire to share their ideologies as they went with you to change the course of the world... it was as Final Fantasy as anything I've experienced.
Hopefully FFXV has plenty of those scenes too, but after being largely disappointed in Final Fantasy post-FFX for a good long while, FFXIV was the surprise return to form I never expected to fall in love with.
This post would be 300% more effective if the game were reviewing poorly, I think.
video games aren't just a story. You can enjoy playing them while disliking the story it tells.
It's certainly not as kingdom hearts as I thought it would be.
Magic essentially functions like items, so I can see complaints there... but it fits with the world so far.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Final fantasy X and XII both got 92 avg, not to mention the previous titles. I guess the score is too close to XIII, which I didnt like at all
I still don't know how the f*** to summon. It will say "Hit L2", I hit "L2" but nothing happens. So dumb. So I just don't.
YankeeDonB
Member
lol. I can't believe I'm living my dream of schadenfreude over foiled schadenfreude.
This game has highs and lows, but clearly lots of folks think it's good. After 10 years in the single player wilderness, this is a sweet day for FF fans.
You can PM Cosmicqueso if you want. He removed it for some reason.
PS, if you do pm him and he removed it because it was faulty, can you let me know? I don't want to be spreading false info.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Co-signed. Raid assholes (okay, and the monthly fee) made me quit the game. It was just no fun dealing with some guy shouting all-caps text at me the whole time, as if it even mattered.
Look at how far back x and xii were released. Scores are handed out differently compared to when they were back in 2001 or 2006. 86 is a GREAT score for a modern day final fantasy.
The Elite
BOSS
Yeah, I think it's a fantastic Final Fantasy game but when you get high level and people start lecturing you on DPS and that's all you start thinking about, it's a problem. It takes you out of the experience.
That's more Nomura style of action RPG than Tabatas. Epecially when you go into a numbered final fantasy game, they want maximum mainstream penetration and a gameplay style that is easy to follow while still having significant RPG elements.
I would say its still more engaging than most western RPG's combat mechanics.
Again 13 got that score in a gen where they handed 9's and 10's to everything. And honestly anyone expecting this game to get a 92 with 10 years of baggage was asking for disappointment.
and 86 meta is not bad. It's good. Damn near great. Anyone convincing themselves that that's bad. Wants it to be bad imo.
To be fair, that is true on most (if not every) MMORPGs.
texhnolyze
Banned
I think I saw a graph or some sort showing that reviewers are generally giving lower scores nowadays compared to a decade(s) ago. It's harder to get 90+ meta now. Mid 80s now is like the low 90s of those days.
The icons that have this small inverted triangle on the top are meant to be held, not tapped.
Same deal with warp points, etc.
See, I had this problem, and the solution was to find the right people. Join a FC. Create your own Duty Finder criteria (and include the descriptions of "New to this raid, help wanted"). I've successfully avoided any jerk players this way with ease since being upfront about my skill level and experience and having people willing to help come to ME instead of me just doing things blindly.
... Also the tutorial videos on Youtube before a big raid. Preps me for mechanics and makes it a lot easier.
I knowwww. Loving this.
artsi
Member
A good game happens? What's your point?
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I could have sworn I saw a review earlier saying it boils down to just pressing down one button to keep doing combos, coupled with QuickTime events but of course now it's alluding me on mobile. Made the whole thing seem shallow and passive. Maybe I misread, but that still leaves magic and summons :/
I'm psyched for the game and will grab it in one form or another, but hopefully they'll release more patches to Polish it further.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
Ok thanks. All I have seen is a review that basically said "hold O to attack, hold Sqaure to dodge". Besides selecting what ability to use, is that really it?
I guess for me combat makes a huge difference if a game is enjoyable or not.
Is there anything even close?
Witcher 3?
Zelda games?
Bloodborne/Souls?
DMC/Ninja Gaiden?
Dragon's Dogma?
Any of those even close?
Lovely Salsa
Banned
I hope you guys are right
I'll form my own opinion tomorrow. Im hyped (for 10 years)
Megawarrior
Member
And a large part why I dropped the game over the summer.
I will say that anyone that things a 86 metacritic score is bad is absolutely full of shit.
That's an opinion I'd ignore immediately, not worth wasting time reading and/or responding to that.
Yeah but look at your post. As someone who's played both XI and XIV for years, you're A) 100% correct and B) demonstrating why it's hard for single player gamers to really get into something like XIV. Hell l remember the hubbub over players wanting to go into a story dungeon blind so they don't get spoiled and they get screamed at.