The animation isn't that bad, but the jump needs to be much higher and more floaty. from what I played(the two demos) I don't think I will be jumping much unless high jump can be unlocked later.
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The animation isn't that bad, but the jump needs to be much higher and more floaty. from what I played(the two demos) I don't think I will be jumping much unless high jump can be unlocked later.
Go_Ly_Dow
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LODs and grass looks so much better now on Xbone. Much less shadow and grass pop-in too.
today
a month ago
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Still very pleased they added back in those specular shaders for grass.
This is one of the biggest upgrades I've ever seen for a game so close to launch.
birthbysleep
Member
I was most looking forward to Noctis vs. Stella/Luna and since we're not getting that the thing I'm looking for is something dark/tragic that gives off the melancholic mood the versus trailers/E3 2013 had.
Specifically the scene where Noctis asks Ignis if he has a plan worse than their own and Ignis answers that he'll think of something 100 times worse.
I can't even imagine a scene so cool with Ignis' goofy British accent.
DirgeExtinction
Member
He said that?
He said that?
In the 2011 trailer, yes.
birthbysleep
Member
He said that?
2011 Versus CG cutscene.
shamo42
Member
Combat seems disappointing for me too. I hope there are more strategic elements than this video shows.
Admiral Woofington
Member
LODs and grass looks so much better now on Xbone. Much less shadow and grass pop-in too.
today
a month ago
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Still very pleased they added back in those specular shaders for grass.
I refuse to believe that a few months of optimization can produce this much of a change and keep the game at a similarly consistency of fps.
#conspiracyXV
Mediking
Member
Ignis is more worried about what he's gonna cook for dinner now. He's more concerned about making a meal that's 100 times good. His bloodthirsty days are gone.
Sad... but true.
I think you should probably stop pining after Versus and what Nomura had in mind for this game at that time, you'll only disappoint yourself with overblown expectations.
That's gone and not coming back.
Now...what realistically could they do to gain your support? Maybe some better Luna representation? What i want to see most of all is seeing what Gentiana has in store for the story. Even if its only super light hinting it would be nice to see even a bit of what she might be doing in the story besides talking with Luna and being a nursemaid to Noctis.
We know she's been around for a super long time, and you can't stay around for that long with just being a nursemaid. She's gonna be insane is my guess
Damerman
Member
w/e bro, you know what i mean. i still want to see the improvements that came from the delay, i'm just avoiding story stuff.
Would seem pointless to upgrade the car and all that if the Kingdom of Lucis is the only open world part. I think there is 3 maps. You can through each seamlessly with the airship but can only travel to each one on train (with Altissia on boat). They'll probably have some way for your car to come over though.
birthbysleep
Member
Hard to say, they're so hush-hush about the story it's really hard to even tell the direction it will go.
Even disregarding Versus, I'm still hoping for something sad and emotional and not just solely about road tripping with your friends.
I hope Luna becomes important and I hope Ardyn is just a red herring to the true villain.
Mediking
Member
Rewatch the Dawn trailer and old Jump trailer for FFXV. Those are good from a story standpoint. At least those are compelling.
And yeah. I hate Ardyn too. Hate Ravus too. Hopefully somebody whose the biggest evil hasn't be shown.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
It was the Versus driver the whole time!
Dark_castle
Junior Member
This game's combat is REALLY not designed around tight spaces. The camera especially is a nightmare in small areas. Death magic's effect of making enemies physically smaller is visually interesting though.
I agree with Luna, she needs to show more..although i don't think she will be as important as we would like, i just want to see more scenes from her than we have been shown, doing more things in general. I get that its a primarily a 4 man show, but she's still apart of the story after all.
Also, can you tell me why you don't like Ardyn as the possible final villain? It feels like they are trying to build up the feeling that he's got a lot of charisma and unique personality to him that would fit perfect with a main villain after all.
The only two other people who i think could possibly be main villains are the old nifleheim dude with the armor, or Ravus, which i doubt, cause the guy seems like a jobber who got his arm burned off cause he was a dumbass
From the shadows he will appear after all of the villains have been slain and will utter a single phrase, directed at Noctis:
"Noctis orgy."
birthbysleep
Member
I think the Dawn trailer is pretty bad and i would be surprised if anything from the Jump trailer makes it in to the final game.
I actually quite like Ardyn but I don't think he has what it takes to be a very compelling villain.
Ravus makes more sense but the execution hasn't been so great. I'm indifferent to him at the moment.
My greatest hope and impossible wish is that Luna ends up becoming the villain.
Edge_Maverick
Member
Dat foliage. They really improved the visuals since the delay, even Xbox One version looks pretty.
Now the camera on the other hand >_>
Now the camera on the other hand >_>
<_< Why Luna!? How would it even happen...like, that would have to be a pretty out there scenario for her to be final bad guy
A... are you me? xD
Mediking
Member
You had me then you lost me.
Why the heck would you want Luna to become a villain??? Why??? As some sort of tribute to Stella or something? Stella wasn't even a real villian.
And I've grown to appreciate the mystery and mood of Dawn trailer.
The driver isn't actually cut and he will be the final boss.
Driver: Noctis ouji, omae wo korosu.
Mediking
Member
From the shadows he will appear after all of the villains have been slain and will utter a single phrase, directed at Noctis:
"Noctis orgy."
Don't give the scary world of FFXV fan art more ammo. Searching for good fanart for this game is liking walking in a minefield.
birthbysleep
Member
I know it doesn't make much sense given the current information, and I don't expect it to happen. But I think it's an interesting thought, although logistically not quite sure how it would work.
Edge_Maverick
Member
There is only one true villain:
RIP Lord Ravus-sama hooded sorcerer mode
They kept many animations from versus 13 trailer, but sadly that floaty high jump wasn't one of them >.>
Ravus in the movie was like Daenerys's brother. didn't like him as a bad guy at all.
There is only one true villain:
RIP Lord Ravus-sama hooded sorcerer mode
Ravus in the movie was like Daenerys's brother. didn't like him as a bad guy at all.
I don't expect it either, but I always loved the idea of a hero and heroine being forced to fight one another despite not wanting to. It would be dramatic and tragic as hell! C'mon, how awesome would it be to see Luna kick Ardyn to the curb and become the villain because reasons? lol
Plus FF needs more female main villains dammit! Ultimecia and Cloud of Darkness are lonely af. xD
I don't really see anything wrong with the jump animation. It looks grounded in reality to me. Making it higher, floatier, or giving a double jump would kinda take away from the "realistic" movement they currently have. Besides warp/magically enhanced moves, none of the animations for the characters are particularly acrobatic/stylized to like what you'd see in Witcher 3 or the Daredevil series, and that's a plus for me as I hate that kind "dance" fighting (but I know others like that stuff).
In regards to story, the main quest seems like it might be pretty straight forward to me which may be a good or bad thing (don't want some twist for the sake of a twist). What I'm really hoping is that they have some good character side story quests for the main party and side characters. We already know that there's some guest party members so maybe they'll do something good with that.
From what we've seen, it would not make sense for Luna to be an antagonist in any form in the narrative. So at that point, its less sounding cool or dramatic or tragic and more just being a "wha?" sort of thing.
I think that the story should make sense first and foremost before having a face heel turn like that
Edge_Maverick
Member
My mistake. Should have said "there WAS just one true villain". He looked so great in E3 2013 trailer
Obviously I don't know what Nomura originally planned to him but I feel his Ravus was going to be more than just a better looking Viserys.
It all started with the hood. So it is and must be for all existence.
Yeah I know nothing we've seen of Luna has shown any indication of that, in fact it seems quite the opposite with her devotion to Noctis. It would be interesting to see that devotion become corrupted somehow, but I don't see that happening. Obviously I would want it to make sense and not just have her suddenly start twirling a mustache and going psycho.
Yeah I know nothing we've seen of Luna has shown any indication of that, in fact it seems quite the opposite with her devotion to Noctis. It would be interesting to see that devotion become corrupted somehow, but I don't see that happening. Obviously I would want it to make sense and not just have her suddenly start twirling a mustache and going psycho.
You've given me a horrible mental image of Luna twirling a mustache like a bond villain and acting super cliche evil, complete with maniacal laugh. It will haunt my dreams
Double/higher jumping will take away from the realistic movement? we are talking about a game that has warp strikes and long air combos.
The animation is fine, I just don't want it to be awkward to start doing air combos when you don't have much air time. It might feel janky compared to jumping and comboing in a Kingdom Hearts game for example. Not saying I need it floaty like KH, just that it would be nice to get some additional breathing room with a double jump or even a high jump. It probably makes it easier to reach aerial enemies too.
Btw I don't see what's unrealistic about double jump when you have airstep which is obviously not realistic. To keep the visual consistency they could make the high jump fancy by making Noctis utilize his warp or airstep abilities to perform the double jump. Not that I think this matters a whole lot.
CrimsonSquall
Member
In Versus XIII there was a double jump. Wonder if that's completely out now
I remember Tabata saying long time ago that there was no double jump. Wonder if it's changed now..
But it's like I said, non-magic related movement is pretty grounded in reality. I mean, I guess you could have double jump be facilitated by magic but they have put so much emphasis on the warp mechanic that it doesn't look like they really want you to initiate air combos with the jump. The jumping as it stands right now, really only looks likes it was made for traversal. But sure, more gameplay options is always fine. I just wanted to point out the jumping animation seems fine and that Noctis isn't some sorta ninja with most of his non-magic movement.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
FF has always been quite inconsistent with what the characters could do in and out of gameplay context, and how deeply the game respects the law of physics. FF13 is a huge offender of this. Characters jumping, leaping through the air like nothing, falling through the roof with little injuries, there is no fucking consistency.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
LODs and grass looks so much better now on Xbone. Much less shadow and grass pop-in too.
today
a month ago
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Still very pleased they added back in those specular shaders for grass.
Um, wow. Wtf.
Death Penalty
Member
Pardon me, but do you know what the poster on that forum's source was for there being further ring spells?
LODs and grass looks so much better now on Xbone. Much less shadow and grass pop-in too.
today
a month ago
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Still very pleased they added back in those specular shaders for grass.
Wow, it does look really good (and that's 'just' the xbox one version), can't wait to experience the final product!.
Sure, they do a lot of crazy stuff like supplexing a train in battles, but outside of that I don't think their abilities have been too inconsistent. Like, we never see the characters scale a skyscraper in a single leap (unless I'm forgetting that). Eventually, all these characters in FF start killing god-level enemies. It's been awhile since I've played FFXIII, but I don't remember anything inside or outside battles that was too crazy (as opposed to something like Bahamut Zero nuking a continent) that wasn't without the help of their magic/eidolons (even then, ridiculous but nothing like supplexing a train). Care to show some examples?
The ring magic was showcased on a PC. Everything else was on XB1.