The male hairstyles are so...bad. Guess I'm sticking with the original.
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The male hairstyles are so...bad. Guess I'm sticking with the original.
theprodigy
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So I heard growth rates aren't ciphered any more?
edit: holy shit Gunter is a true Jeigan
where's the growth rates Aveyn Knight
edit: holy shit Gunter is a true Jeigan
What? I gave fair warning.
When NoA made the same sex marriage announcement, they confirmed Conquest and Birthright will both be their own game.
Frozenprince
Banned
Wasn't referring to your post.
kuroneko0509
Member
I assume they haven't fully decided yet how to do the release in NA before this lol. and, there's still a choice to make... by choosing which version instead to get :^)
dakkumauji
Member
kuroneko0509
Member
stuff on JP eshop either updates 10 pm JST or 10 am JST iirc
theprodigy
Member
average base growth rates, Awakening vs Fates (assuming the latter is accurate...or even the former lol)
Notes:
-obviously this doesn't include class growth rates
-in addition to Gunter being a total Jagen, growth rates among characters are generally more variable in Fates
-whereas in Awakening everyone had at least 10% in both strength and magic, this is not close to being the case in Fates; half the characters have sub-10% in one
, which is why magic took a dive while strength did not
edit: version without Gunter/Fuuga's 50/100 totals
Code:
Awakening Fates Change
HP 49.90 40.51 -9.39
Str 36.94 36.67 -0.27
Mag 24.80 18.12 -6.68
Skl 39.39 39.06 -0.33
Spd 38.88 39.93 1.05
Lck 54.18 40.51 -13.67
Def 33.57 31.52 -2.05
Res 24.18 28.33 4.15
Total 301.84 274.64 -27.20Notes:
-obviously this doesn't include class growth rates
-in addition to Gunter being a total Jagen, growth rates among characters are generally more variable in Fates
-whereas in Awakening everyone had at least 10% in both strength and magic, this is not close to being the case in Fates; half the characters have sub-10% in one
or both if you're Gunter
edit: version without Gunter/Fuuga's 50/100 totals
Code:
Awakening Fates Change
HP 49.90 41.19 -8.71
Str 36.94 37.39 0.45
Mag 24.80 18.66 -6.14
Skl 39.39 39.93 0.54
Spd 38.88 41.04 2.16
Lck 54.18 41.19 -12.99
Def 33.57 32.24 -1.33
Res 24.18 28.96 4.78
Total 301.84 280.60 -21.24Yeah, I know one of the players were complaining about the states being too low on the enemies in lunatic, but that was Awakening stat inflation. This is more normal. Everybody had low luck in the screens that I saw.
dakkumauji
Member
huh, wow, those average growth rates
amusing we have a Jagen again after all the years
I guess there goes the days where everybody was viable
amusing we have a Jagen again after all the years
I guess there goes the days where everybody was viable
theprodigy
Member
that's not...what the data says?
the drops are concentrated in HP, magic, and luck, which explains the lower HP (and luck...not that anyone said anything about that) but everything else is more or less the same (I don't think the magic drop is even a real drop among actual magic users either)
The luck and hp drops are substantial (well hp matters much more, but I did notice units having substantially less luck), and it seems like str/mag hybrids are no longer as viable.
theprodigy
Member
HP and luck were also the smallest part of Awakening's stat inflation (see: FE4 HP), and I don't see how obviously physical characters going from 10/15 magic growth to 0/5 affects the true hybrids? It's not like Vaike/Stahl/Gaius/etc. (to name a few) were ever viable for that to begin with.
edit: and the reverse, units like Miriel/Lissa/Maribelle were never going to be physical units anyway, so them having higher strength growths than the likes of Elise/Nyx doesn't really mean anything
edit: removing Gunter bumps Fates' total average by 3.3 LMAO
Well, I think Leon starts with high bases in magic and Str (but I think that's chapter six stats) so you're right it doesn't effect the true hybrids, it does effect the genetics in this game, where it had zero effect in Awakening.
I'll be honest I was just shocked when I saw many units with 4-5 luck in this game. Do you have any information on the base stats? They looked about the same for this game.
Man, I'm still bummed about the Nohr supports, really killed my hype for this game.
edit.
So after removing Gunter, the rates between the two games are even less significant, are there any other big outliers?
Ugh, this is the worst thing.
theprodigy
Member
Fuuga has a total of 100 (who's that? it's listed in the other/unknown section on Serenes)
if we were to remove that, it bumps Fates' average another 2.66, up to 280.60
edit: lol at the hamayama stream and the Takumi hatetrain/memes
Xenoflare
Member
Frozenprince
Banned
Every FE from now till the heat death of the universe will have
fucking time travel
theprodigy
Member
ahh, the Hoshido class growths are up
those really are lower across the board...except for resistance (and luck because there actually are luck class growths lol)
the majority of the drop is in HP, which got absolutely hammered...that explains the HP values
edit: Azura has a 25% HP growth including the class growth (which is 0% anyway), that's why her HP is utter shit
those really are lower across the board...except for resistance (and luck because there actually are luck class growths lol)
the majority of the drop is in HP, which got absolutely hammered...that explains the HP values
edit: Azura has a 25% HP growth including the class growth (which is 0% anyway), that's why her HP is utter shit
dakkumauji
Member
it's going to be weird to come off Awakening and see lower stats all across the board
and also to not get a +6 in level ups anymore haha
and also to not get a +6 in level ups anymore haha
I'm sorry to hear that. I was sleeping when those spoilers were full game so I luckily didn't have a chance to read it yet.
I thought I made it clear in the OP where the fine lines were in terms of spoilers and support discussion but I guess I was wrong. Some people just want to ruin the game for others I guess.
I hope other elements make up for that one spoiler and you still do thoroughly enjoy the game when you get it.
Xenoflare
Member
Future GAF thread: "Is Fire Emblem Fates too hard?"
Xenoflare
Member
Wah why can't I grind in Nohr
theprodigy
Member
Pfft +6? That's nothing, FE6 Karel is guaranteed +8
Kappa
Frozenprince
Banned
I mean it's not a big deal I don't care allll that much about the story (
though I will bitch out when it comes time to murder your family from the other version of whichever one you're playing happens)
It was just something that happened. No biggy. I'll still play both and love the shit out of them because according to Famitsu the map design, in Nohr especially, is reminiscent of Holy War and OH MY GOD TAKE MY MONEY.
Ah, so I wasn't crazy when the players Hoshidan stats looks really poor (didn't have access to the Nohr stream).
kuroneko0509
Member
Blackquill
Member
I don't know if less growth on HP is a good thing, in one of my RD playthrough, Micaiah got screwed in HP so hard that she gets one hit ko by anything, anyway, we'll see.
I saw that map design are way better, for those who saw a lot of these streams, how good it is ? (my favorite map design in the series is probably Radiant Dawn mostly except part 4)
Also at Gunther, it's good to have a Jeigan sometimes.
I saw that map design are way better, for those who saw a lot of these streams, how good it is ? (my favorite map design in the series is probably Radiant Dawn mostly except part 4)
Also at Gunther, it's good to have a Jeigan sometimes.
theprodigy
Member
let's have some fun here (not touching the kids or characters we didn't know about beforehand)
(all growths are HP/str/mag/skl/spd/lck/def/res)
Corrin (before modifiers): 60/60/40/50/55/55/45/30=395
Gunter: 35/25/0/15/5/20/25/5=130 (ahahaha)
Felicia: 40/20/45/45/55/65/20/45=335
Jakob: 50/40/25/55/50/55/30/35=340
Azura: 25/60/25/80/80/60/15/35=380 (talk about a glass cannon)
Kaze: 60/45/0/65/85/20/25/50=350
Silas: 50/60/5/60/50/55/50/30=360
Rinka: 40/45/25/50/55/35/65/20=335literally abs of steel Kreygasm
Sakura: 45/35/60/50/55/70/30/40=385
Tsubaki: 55/40/20/60/35/45/45/25=325 (eww that speed growth)
Hana: 35/65/10/60/75/40/20/40=345 (wow dat strength)
Hinoka: 45/55/15/50/60/60/35/60=380
Takumi: 60/50/0/75/55/50/45/20=355
Ryoma: 60/55/5/65/65/55/35/35=375
Saizou: 45/55/45/80/50/55/50/25=405 (random 45 magic lol)
Orochi: 35/10/80/60/30/40/25/55=335
Asama: 55/55/30/50/60/55/40/40=385
Setsuna: 40/35/0/45/75/35/25/40=295 (ouch, at least that speed is high)
Tsukuyomi: 50/35/55/40/60/65/40/30=375
Oboro: 45/55/20/55/55/45/50/35=360
Hinata: 65/45/0/40/35/60/45/25=315 (ouch that speed)
Kagerou: 35/70/0/40/70/30/30/55=330
Nishiki: 55/50/10/40/65/60/35/60=375
Elise: 30/5/75/45/65/85/15/55=375
Arthur: 70/65/0/70/50/10/50/20=335 (lol 10% luck)
Effie: 55/80/0/50/55/60/55/30=385
Odin: 55/45/50/55/45/60/45/30=385
Zero: 40/45/25/50/70/30/30/60=350
Nyx: 30/15/70/35/60/20/20/40=290
Camilla: 45/60/40/60/60/25/45/60=395
Luna: 50/45/5/45/60/35/55/35=330
Berka: 55/45/15/65/40/50/60/25=355
Lazward: 60/60/0/65/45/60/45/30=365
Pieri: 40/65/5/40/60/50/35/50=345
Benoit: 70/60/0/65/15/45/75/45=375
Charlotte: 85/75/0/50/65/50/25/5=355
Leo: 60/45/65/40/50/50/45/50=405 (talk about balanced)
Xander: 55/65/5/50/45/75/50/25=370
average of these minus Gunther: 50/49.05/23.51/54.05/55.68/49.05/39.19/37.57=358.11 (yes I realize this is .01 off)
average of higher attacking stat: 56.89
summary:
HP might be the lowest in the series? (someone will have to check FE1-5, but I think so)
effective strength/magic (i.e. dump stats don't count) is roughly on par with Awakening
skill/speed/defense is between Tellius and Awakening
luck is RD level
resistance is the highest it's ever been
(all growths are HP/str/mag/skl/spd/lck/def/res)
Corrin (before modifiers): 60/60/40/50/55/55/45/30=395
Gunter: 35/25/0/15/5/20/25/5=130 (ahahaha)
Felicia: 40/20/45/45/55/65/20/45=335
Jakob: 50/40/25/55/50/55/30/35=340
Azura: 25/60/25/80/80/60/15/35=380 (talk about a glass cannon)
Kaze: 60/45/0/65/85/20/25/50=350
Silas: 50/60/5/60/50/55/50/30=360
Rinka: 40/45/25/50/55/35/65/20=335
Sakura: 45/35/60/50/55/70/30/40=385
Tsubaki: 55/40/20/60/35/45/45/25=325 (eww that speed growth)
Hana: 35/65/10/60/75/40/20/40=345 (wow dat strength)
Hinoka: 45/55/15/50/60/60/35/60=380
Takumi: 60/50/0/75/55/50/45/20=355
Ryoma: 60/55/5/65/65/55/35/35=375
Saizou: 45/55/45/80/50/55/50/25=405 (random 45 magic lol)
Orochi: 35/10/80/60/30/40/25/55=335
Asama: 55/55/30/50/60/55/40/40=385
Setsuna: 40/35/0/45/75/35/25/40=295 (ouch, at least that speed is high)
Tsukuyomi: 50/35/55/40/60/65/40/30=375
Oboro: 45/55/20/55/55/45/50/35=360
Hinata: 65/45/0/40/35/60/45/25=315 (ouch that speed)
Kagerou: 35/70/0/40/70/30/30/55=330
Nishiki: 55/50/10/40/65/60/35/60=375
Elise: 30/5/75/45/65/85/15/55=375
Arthur: 70/65/0/70/50/10/50/20=335 (lol 10% luck)
Effie: 55/80/0/50/55/60/55/30=385
Odin: 55/45/50/55/45/60/45/30=385
Zero: 40/45/25/50/70/30/30/60=350
Nyx: 30/15/70/35/60/20/20/40=290
Camilla: 45/60/40/60/60/25/45/60=395
Luna: 50/45/5/45/60/35/55/35=330
Berka: 55/45/15/65/40/50/60/25=355
Lazward: 60/60/0/65/45/60/45/30=365
Pieri: 40/65/5/40/60/50/35/50=345
Benoit: 70/60/0/65/15/45/75/45=375
Charlotte: 85/75/0/50/65/50/25/5=355
Leo: 60/45/65/40/50/50/45/50=405 (talk about balanced)
Xander: 55/65/5/50/45/75/50/25=370
average of these minus Gunther: 50/49.05/23.51/54.05/55.68/49.05/39.19/37.57=358.11 (yes I realize this is .01 off)
average of higher attacking stat: 56.89
summary:
HP might be the lowest in the series? (someone will have to check FE1-5, but I think so)
effective strength/magic (i.e. dump stats don't count) is roughly on par with Awakening
skill/speed/defense is between Tellius and Awakening
luck is RD level
resistance is the highest it's ever been
Blackquill
Member
Sakura is pretty strong for a staff user.
Guess that Azura will be mostly used for dancing which is fine.
Guess that Azura will be mostly used for dancing which is fine.
dakkumauji
Member
oh wow at those growths
don't think class growth rates will really boost them not
don't think class growth rates will really boost them not
kuroneko0509
Member
looks like Treehouse is handling the localization, if he's serious in this tweet https://twitter.com/danfazio/status/613770590311182336
and that growth aha....
is the modifier for Kamui the same as Robin btw, or is it changed?
and that growth aha....
is the modifier for Kamui the same as Robin btw, or is it changed?
Xenoflare
Member
Not 8-4?
:/
Would this make the supposed censorship even worse since Nintendo is doing the job? Though if they wanted to cut back it won't matter which firm handles it.
Blackquill
Member
Skills spoilers !
I welcome this.
Galeforce got nerfed ! "So many nerfs too. Galeforce can't trigger if you use Attack or Guard Stance.
Aptitude only boosts growths by 10%."
Aptitude only boosts growths by 10%."
I welcome this.
There's a character called Elise? That's gonna be awkward if I end up getting the game due to SSM being in.
Hey guys this is silly but i'm doing a Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance playthrough with text to speech voice acting added to it. hahah cheesy but it seems kinda cool.
https://youtu.be/AJfDDdwIOxE
The audio levels are pretty wacky, but i just learned how to use adobe premiere last night.
This is a labor of love, so i hope the quality will improve with more experience. Enjoy
p.s i had no one else to share this with besides my gaf family !
https://youtu.be/AJfDDdwIOxE
The audio levels are pretty wacky, but i just learned how to use adobe premiere last night.
This is a labor of love, so i hope the quality will improve with more experience. Enjoy
p.s i had no one else to share this with besides my gaf family !
dakkumauji
Member
not 8-4
asked johntv about that and he said they weren't working on it
so rip all the scandalous stuff and probably a bunch of other things
Don't think there would be enough traffic and the people that would be interested post here anyway.
dakkumauji
Member
I could post what cards I draw oh wait, I'm too poor to buy a booster box :[
They are - I'm ashamed that the acknowledgement of fictional anime bisexuals could make me so disgustingly happy.
While the limited selection of partners and unfortunate implications regarding the correlation of heteronormativity and sanity are regrettable, it's still a notable step forward for the series; and one I was fairly sure they'd never make. And what's really important is that Fire Emblem legalised same-sex marriage before Australia.
Most of the male ones are awful; but there's a few which could work depending on what kind of facial features / facial hair options are available. I'm assuming that this is still the default, medium-sized build for both avatars?