I'm still trying to understand if custom soundtracks are in or out. The reason I question it is because REAL CS support for sure is not available yet, but they do the cheat in both videos i've seen. Where they go to the games music options and turn down the audio (almost every game has this option). Then they open the in-game XMB and play music like that. It's not the ideal way, but it is an option. Is this option not actually in the 2.4 update we are getting? Or is that the actual way its going to work? Because that makes no sense.
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Firmware of Awesomeness Incoming: The Official Firmware 2.4 Thread (July 2nd Release)
- Thread starter Killthee
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Apharmd Battler
Member
Good stuff, can't wait for the update.
dammitmattt
Banned
RuGalz said:
This is exactly why trophies are an also-ran idea that will have much less impact than achievements. You don't have that history from day one.
On the positive side, I really like Sony's idea of the challenge tiers for the achievements, which means we won't be having any Avatar-style disasters. This is also good news for 360 players since the principal of the tiered trophies/achievements will likely carry over to multiplatform games on the 360.
FirewalkR said:That's exactly the point, if they gave retroactive trophies, they'd have to stop people from swapping saves. If you want the trophies, earn them (well, again lulz).
I for one don't mind.
MGS 4, here I go (yet) again.
That's why I'm waiting for my second play through
(The Boss Extreme run)I wonder how soon MGS4 will be patched...
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
h3ro said:Why are you so against my awesome thread
dude i'm not hating on you're thread at all. in fact i'm already feeling a fond nostalgia for it, as it was the first thing i saw when i woke up this morning.
i dont care which thread gets locked, its just that carrying on the same discussion in both of them is getting difficult to keep up with.
Cartman86 said:
This is more like a work-around for older games that don't understand the existence of custom soundtrack. New games or older game with patch can decide to support it the proper way. It's kinda like whether bringing up in-game XMB will pause the game or not has to be properly supported by game and decided by game if it makes sense to pause.
badcrumble
Member
Wait, so people don't care about in-game messaging or friends list viewing now? Fucking hell, people. I'm a little disappointed about no retroactive trophies, sure, but you guys act like this is the final featureset for the console. Sure, cross-game voice chat would be nice, and I'm sure it'll make it in sometime. In-game music, I think, will be far more widespread than you think, and Trophy support honestly shouldn't be very difficult at all. This is building a foundation to seriously improve PS3 games going forward. If you hate this update, apparently you've hated your PS3 all along because it sure doesn't take anything away from you.
templeusox
Banned
2.40 and the beginning of the international signing period in baseball? It's like Christmas in July.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
FirewalkR said:
well yeah i assumed this was the only reason they wouldnt have retroactive trophies...but i'd rather 'let the baby have his bottle' and get the small percentage of e-macho douchebags out of the way than have to go through the inconvenience of playing certain things i may not want to play again.
Rapping Granny
Banned
Vorador said:
OH SHIT, I forgot about this feature!
IT'S FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Was hoping for in-game voice chat. Everything else still sounds nice though.
Cirekiller
Member
Trophy Support Wishlist:
Guitar Heroes III
Rock
Ratchet and Clank Future
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Metal Gear Solid 4
GTA IV
Devil May Cry 4
Assassin's Creed
Burnout Paradise
MLB'08 The Show
Resistance: Fall of Man
Come make it happen those are all huge games out on the PS3 why support crap like NBA 09.
Guitar Heroes III
Rock
Ratchet and Clank Future
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Metal Gear Solid 4
GTA IV
Devil May Cry 4
Assassin's Creed
Burnout Paradise
MLB'08 The Show
Resistance: Fall of Man
Come make it happen those are all huge games out on the PS3 why support crap like NBA 09.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
Vorador said:
come on guy, think bigger picture. i know i'm a junior member and all, but i thought gaf was all about hypotheticals and 'if i were <developer | publisher | analyst | enthusiast>' discussion
captscience
Member
Has anyone seen mention of the ability to change audio output in game or xmb access during bluray/dvd playback?
Liberty4all
Banned
Hmm 2 threads of Official Firmware 2.4 awesomeness.
Cirekiller
Member
Oh yeah 8*( chances of other older first party titles are dwindling.jjasper said:
badcrumble
Member
My guess is that it'll be possible for devs to (sort of) circumvent the lack of save-reading for trophies, depending on how they implement the trophy-award hooks. For example, on my DMC4 save, assuming Trophies are implemented, I'll probably be able to just beat Mission 20 on DMD again and immediately unlock the trophy for beating said difficulty. In addition, as soon as I beat any mission I'd hopefully be automatically awarded Red Orb Millionaire and the other orb-collecting achievements, as well as the skill collector, etc. bonuses. At least, that's my hope.
I imagine that MGS4 could be handled by just doing an emblem check every time you beat the game and awarding trophies based on the total emblems won. The PS3 already is able to check to see if a save file was created on your PS3 (Ninja Gaiden Sigma and DMC4 already do this, I believe), so some sort of workaround ought to be possible if you only update your save file.
I imagine that MGS4 could be handled by just doing an emblem check every time you beat the game and awarding trophies based on the total emblems won. The PS3 already is able to check to see if a save file was created on your PS3 (Ninja Gaiden Sigma and DMC4 already do this, I believe), so some sort of workaround ought to be possible if you only update your save file.
BoilersFan23
Member
I would not be surprised if the Software patent MS owns on custom soundtracks has something to do with it (so it's kind of up to a developer).Killthee said:
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
Cartman86 said:I'd take that too versus playing MGS4 12 times again. But this is really just for us freaks who 100% completed the game already. It's our fault
well i probably just wouldnt re-play the games i didnt want to. but then i'd have to live every moment on psn knowing i should have credit for something i already did. i guess i'll have to fill my 'about me' with footnotes
Unregistered007
Banned
dammitmattt said:
amm ya your views are pretty negative. They are getting all those features for free while the xbox people have been paying for the service. I can't don't and won't see myself paying for online play ever again.
I haven't come across it, but I think there's a good chance we'll be able to access most of the settings using In-Game XMB. It would be kinda dumb to have everything but the Accessory Settings force you to go to the regular XMB.captscience said:
Cirekiller
Member
Yeah forgot about those only listed games I own. But I was planning on picking up both soon anyways. Sorta waiting for a price drop.N30RYU said:
Ken Masters
Banned
dammitmattt said:
where did you here this?