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First reviews for Disney's THE LONE RANGER.

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I think it's funny that anyone wonders if 'western' fans will go to see this movie. Leone's films and westerns in general are my favorites of all time and this film has absolutely no interest for me. Didn't even occur to me that the two were related. Western fans see True Grit or Django for something modern. Not this.
 
It was a fun movie. Took it a bit to get into the main story, but the last 20 minutes make up for it.
 
Transformers 2. Except that movie made tons of money.



Nah, most people don't give a flying fuck about reviews, and view critics as elitist snobs. It's a lack of interest that's killing the movie, imo.

Watching Depp struggle through a nauseating, "redface" script sounds absolutely dull. To me, it's in bad taste.
 
So you guys are saying this movie is pretty good even though it has a 26% rotten rating? I can't remember the last time a summer tentpole flick was this unanimously panned by critics.

I had to flame Charlie Jane over at io9 because it's like she didn't even watch the movie. She just sat in the theatre thinking up what she'd write about in her blog.

The movie is great. Johnny Depp needed to be that Tonto. If it was anybody else they could not have made this movie. People keep talking about Jack Sparrow when they need to be thinking about Depp's Hunter S Thompson. I won't even say whitewash because it would have been a miracle to find the unknown native actor who could have done this role with that much deadpan comic spirit. Not saying it would be impossible, but improbable.
 
Yeah he's far from another jack sparrow

His delivery is more deadpan humor, with some PTSD thrown in or some shit

Really liked armie hammer too. He gave me reeves Clark Kent vibes at times

I'm prolly gonna buy this when it comes out because as flawed as it was there's also a lot to enjoy in here
 
Better-paced and more coherent than any of the PotC movies. I thought it was genuinely entertaining and mildly subversive with a tendency for more honest jabs at the past transgressions of film and Native Americans. Though I didn't mind the framing of old Tonto recollecting the events of the film, I think it would've been a much stronger, better, and certainly mercifully briefer movie without it. Doesn't have quite the family appeal of a more overtly goofy Jack Sparrow and and the ghost pirates stuff, so it will likely suffer for it at the BO.
 
Better-paced and more coherent than any of the PotC movies. I thought it was genuinely entertaining and mildly subversive with a tendency for more honest jabs at the past transgressions of film and Native Americans. Though I didn't mind the framing of old Tonto recollecting the events of the film, I think it would've been a much stronger, better, and certainly mercifully briefer movie without it. Doesn't have quite the family appeal of a more overtly goofy Jack Sparrow and and the ghost pirates stuff, so it will likely suffer for it at the BO.

YEah it was full of unreliable narrator stuff, it was so disjointed, but in a good way. Things happen and then he has to go back and explain how they did happen, it seems like a bad mistake, but then you realize it's setting up foreshadowing for later payoffs. It was made weird, and should be appreciated, but instead looks like it's going to be compared to very different films, because Johnny Depp is "typecast"/.
 
YEah it was full of unreliable narrator stuff, it was so disjointed, but in a good way. Things happen and then he has to go back and explain how they did happen, it seems like a bad mistake, but then you realize it's setting up foreshadowing for later payoffs. It was made weird, and should be appreciated, but instead looks like it's going to be compared to very different films, because Johnny Depp is "typecast"/.

Yeah, you're right about that. Was just too long to be physically comfortable at nearly three hours, though. Should've been re-written to be easier to sit through even if I didn't think any of it was particularly wasted time.
 
I liked it, but I am a huge sucker for westerns, so I am admittedly biased. Took my dad (65) who grew up with Lone Ranger stuff. He liked the ending big time, as did I. While I typically prefer the edgier stuff, I remember just enough Lone Ranger from my childhood to want a more clean cut hero. I didn't want emo hero, reluctant hero, infighting, etc, I wanted a guy to stand up, keep his morals, and white hat that shit. Alas, only the final act delivered that bit, and it was glorious. The first act set up a gritty western that I would have liked, but wasn't a Lone Ranger film (or a Disney one). Really didn't care for the "stupid white man" stuff and the 1930s narrative device, though if they had tied it into the Green Hornet that would have been nice. I also wanted either a realistic story or a fantasy one, that tweener one they delivered failed to satisfy. Still, it was fun, though not as good as John Carter, mainly because it was too convoluted with the plot line and the narrative interruptions. How this cost more than MoS baffles me though, I guess Johnny Depp is out earning RDJ.
 
Surprisingly enjoyed The Lone Ranger! It's really long, but it kind of felt like a mixture of Pirates 2/3 and Back to the Future 3. The final battle scene was absurd, but very entertaining.
 
This movie was awful. Too freaking long. Boring at spots. Uneven pacing. Underdeveloped characters. Such a mess.
 
Art and commerce have always, always, always been strange bedfellows. Films like The Godfather are very rare examples where the studio, critics, and audiences have been in tune with each other. The sooner you accept that, the happier you'll be.

I'll try to take that lesson to heart, because I DO want to be able to enjoy movies.

This post touched me :'(

Aww, you make me blush! And I'm sorry as well.
 
The movie was actually a surprise to me (my expectations were ridiculously low), I only saw it because we were late to Monsters University, and This Is The End. Which says a lot about where this tracks on some peoples must see or want to sees right now lol.

I thought it was a fun summer blockbuster flick, and I really liked the score throughout the film. Pretty film too, IL&M did a great job on the vfx. It wasn't nearly as bad or boring as I thought it would, but holy fuck was it too long.

I'd say it wasn't as bad as critics are making it seem, but you wouldn't be missing too much if you waited for it on home video- besides seeing the visuals on the big screen, and the awesome audio work throughout the film (which are probably the films highlights besides Hammer and Depps chemistry, so I guess you would be missing a lil something). I would recommend it if you really have an urge to go to the movies, and have seen most of what's out right now.

It was a fun movie. Took it a bit to get into the main story, but the last 20 minutes make up for it.

Yea, the final act was pretty fun.
 
ok so i just came back from seeing and it was great, i dont understand how this movie is getting bad reviews? it was entertaining throughout, not a moment was it dull. everything from beginning to end was fantastic and had a lot of gritty moments for a pg-13 disney film. the story going from future to past was a bit annoying but honestly there is more good than bad in here. i am kinda shocked at how it is doing, i left the theater wanting to see more of it. i love verbinski visual flair to everything....i dont know but i quite enjoyed.

also hearing alot of the tone of the film and i didnt think that was a problem i thought the movie still had an identity, if you want to see something that has bad tonal shifts look at the old movie practical magic, now that movie has no idea what it wants to be good lord lol.
 
I think Im going to go watch this later in the afternoon today. None of my friends wanna see it, so fuck it.

Just read a crushingly negative review that really made me want to see it lol.
 
So, saw it earlier.

I could understand lukewarm reviews, but the just awful reviews really don't make a lot of sense to me...it's simply not that bad, from the reviews you'd think this was a turgid piece of shit...but it's not.

Hammer and Depp had a pretty good chemistry going on, and although the film was long, it felt pretty well paced overall. The last 20 minutes as already said are pretty fucking great. Once that music kicks in, I couldn't help but have a smile on my face. Overall it definitely felt like Verbinski and everyone else were pretty genuine about what they were making.

If they could have tightened up the plotting at the script level and cut a good 15-20 minutes from the film I would definitely rate it higher (the framing device stands out as the most obvious cut, not offensive...I can see what Verbinski was aiming for...but not needed), but as it stands, this was overall a nicely crafted adventure flick. Great Zimmer score, Verbinksi can shoot the shit out of a film, and Depp definitely didn't simply regurgitate his Jack Sparrow character.

First John Carter, and now this...I guess I have a thing for disney period adventure movies that bomb...lol
 
haha yeah forreal. i think i'm just bad luck for movies after i enjoyed the shit out of this, dredd and john carter on first time watches.

the last 20 minutes is my favorite action scene of the year, and the music definitely helps it.
 
Not a bad film at all. Thought Armie Hammer was great as was Depp. Did get a good chuckle out of Depp getting his name first in the credits over Hammer.
 
Just came back, it's a typical Verbinski film. Elements of Pirates/Rango all over this movie.

As said previously the last 20 minutes are great but the movie's pacing suffers quite a bit. Movie is also quite emotional, something I didnt expect. If Verbinksi had opted for a more Pirates 2 feel over Pirates 1 (more mindless Verbinski action over story building) then this would have done better probably.

Armie Hammer was a bit of a surprise actually. He's probably the next superhero material and will get picked up soon ..
 
I'll echo similar sentiments. Too damn long with a spectacular setpiece in the last 20 minutes. They needed to cut like an hour.

Also, fuck me but how many times did someone hold up a guy at gunpoint and not shoot? Must've been like thirty times. I fucking hate that. I know it's pg13 but if you wanted to not kill people just have people fist fight. A serial murderer outlaw has a gun to your head and doesn't even attempt to shoot killed a lot of the tension in the action scenes in this movie.
 
How many here have or are going to see the movie just because your father nags nostalgic stuff about the Lone Ranger all the time?
 
I thought this was pretty fun when I saw it last week. But I won't be surprised if I'm alone in that sentiment.

I thought it was okay. The last action scene is definitely the best part, just a big slapsticky action scene that has some cool set pieces.

Definitely not as bad as the rotten score suggests I think, though I can see why reviewers would be fatigued by the formula.
 
Who the hell thought the thing with the kid in the park was a good idea?

Movie had potential, but I feel like someone really wanted to make it a movie for kids despite all the deaths and blood.

Also, I'll just believe Disney asked Depp not to sound too much different from Jack Sparrow.
 
I saw The Lone Ranger a few days ago. The scenes with the kid and old Tonto looked like they were going in a weird and crazy direction at first, but after the second scene of them together, I could see where they were going with them. Overall, they were good but could have been taken out of the film and you wouldn't have missed them. BTW, to TheFilmStage reviewer, these scenes take place in San Francisco, not New York. The movie even has a helpful subtitle and shots of the Golden Gate Bridge under construction to help you sort that out. :p

The film is obviously a long one, but it didn't feel that long watching it. If it had gone on longer than it already had, I probably would have noticed though. Armie Hammer was good. I think some people wished he were more gung-ho and less ambiguous, but remember, this film is about him becoming the Lone Ranger, it's not like he's been the masked man for years, so the characterization makes sense to me.

I thought Depp played well as Tonto. More subtle than other recent roles. As the film went on, he truly did come to feel as a man without a tribe. Certainly there's been criticism of a white man playing an American Indian. I thought it was interesting to note the way Tonto spoke in the film versus the other American Indians (particularly the elder) who talked as if they were taught English from the cradle. I'm sure for most American Indians in the 1860s, the latter portrayal was the more true-to-life and historically accurate.

I was very negative about Depp going into the film (having recently seen most of Dark Shadows, it was hard not to be), but he definitely added to the film and I can't really see someone else playing the part in that way as effectively. Ruth Wilson was great and stunning (even though for some reason, I kept thinking she was Michelle Monaghan until I saw the end credits .:p). It was a surprise to see Barry Pepper as Custer. True to the old western movie tradition, his two six shooters seemed to hold about 30 shots. :p Plus the man jumped from a perfectly good train at some point, to pursue Tonto.

The action sequences were great, especially the finale. That was one long, great ride. I didn't think the violence was that bad. Reading reviews, I was expecting a lot more, but then reviews about this movie from film critics seem to be misleading anyway. Sometimes it feels like they're talking about a different movie from what they saw.

I liked the overall theme of the corrupt railroad. That was very historically accurate in theme (I can't say for specifics since I'm not that familiar with the creation of the Transcontinental Railroad itself).

The music was some of the best Zimmer has done in awhile. Basically go see it, because it's not going to be in the theaters long, the way the numbers are looking unfortunately.
 
I wonder what the sci fi bits were that were chopped out...

From what I know the movie was going to delve into Native American mythology and the villians would be a cult of werewolves (or skin walkers) similar to how the first pirates movie had ghost/zombie pirates

I would have actually went and seen the movie if they stuck with that stuff
 
WTF, I finally watch this and its actually good with the ending being great.
Every review I saw either said it was awful or a "turn you brain off at the door" movie.
It had alright acting, a great soundtrack, great action and the story was fine. I don't really expect much more than that for this type of blockbuster.

Right now I think I liked this better than POTC 3 and maybe even 1.
 
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