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That disgusts me. Johnnys rationale for it during the press circuit is pathetic "Your warriors man"Whitewashing the role of Tonto sure helped with your movie's marketability Disney.
That disgusts me. Johnnys rationale for it during the press circuit is pathetic "Your warriors man"Whitewashing the role of Tonto sure helped with your movie's marketability Disney.
Going to see this today with some friends. Wish me luck.
Wonder if overseas numbers will save it like they did the last Pirates movie.
I think the reviews killed this movie. It was tracking very strongly til the reviews hit.
And the reviews were mostly bullshit. They admit that the movie is entertaining, just too long, or too violent, or both. How this movie is deemed too violent is beyond me. It's very cartoonish and not graphic in the least. Bare in mind that the last two hit westerns were True Grit and Django Unchained, and this is not even remotely close to True Grit's level of violence.
Because at times it's basically Pirates. No Blood, people jumping off at the last second, etc. People die, but there isn't anything graphic about it.
This on the other handWe have a guy gutting and eating the heart of the brother. Heads smashed in by a pillar. Etc.
True Grit and Django were hard violence through, this couldn't decide if it wanted the family fun violence or the hard.
I shouldn't comment on that part since I haven't seen the movie but if the trailers are any indication, it doesn't look that way.
This definitely felt like a great movie trapped inside a mediocre movie. With a little better editing and the removal of some of the silly stuff this could have been awesome. The soundtrack was amazing, though. I love what Zimmer did with it.
yeah, Zimmers score is leagues better here than the shit in MoS
Also, Armie Hammer really did a great job
Lone Ranger Opens To Disastrous $9.7M, Despicable Me 2′ Destroys For Huge $34.3M
Ouch. John Carter bomba part 2. Good thing Disney has Iron Man 3 and Monsters University.
This definitely felt like a great movie trapped inside a mediocre movie. With a little better editing and the removal of some of the silly stuff this could have been awesome. The soundtrack was amazing, though. I love what Zimmer did with it.
Wonder if overseas numbers will save it like they did the last Pirates movie.
It's at 24% now.So you guys are saying this movie is pretty good even though it has a 26% rotten rating? I can't remember the last time a summer tentpole flick was this unanimously panned by critics.
Just got back. It was okay. I had a lot of fun, although I wish the movie had leaned a little heavier into the darkness/violence/general "fuck white people" themes, although I doubt Disney would have okayed that. Depps performance bugged me a bit, but he had enough genuinely funny lines to make up for it I guess. The framing device was fuckin' pointless, absolutely pointless.
Also I'm not sure whether I should respect Hans Zimmer for making a relatively deep musical reference, or whether he's just being a fucking biter:
The Lone Ranger Soundtrack
Once Upon a Time Soundtrack
I was practically jumping up and down in my seat and nobody around me knew why I was pissed.
Call me crazy but I enjoyed the hell out of it more so than The Man of Steel
It's not that deep, and he has referenced that specific Morricone theme before already, lolz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzsqAjJnMdA
I don't think there's any malice.
Well, that's why I said "relatively." Also the fact that he's referenced it multiple times (there's a part in Sherlock Holmes that's really similar as well) it's starting to get kind of lazy.
I think the reviews killed this movie. It was tracking very strongly til the reviews hit.
And the reviews were mostly bullshit. They admit that the movie is entertaining, just too long, or too violent, or both. How this movie is deemed too violent is beyond me. It's very cartoonish and not graphic in the least. Bare in mind that the last two hit westerns were True Grit and Django Unchained, and this is not even remotely close to True Grit's level of violence.
so true, 20 minutes of the runtime could have been cut down without that shitJust got back. It was okay. I had a lot of fun, although I wish the movie had leaned a little heavier into the darkness/violence/general "fuck white people" themes, although I doubt Disney would have okayed that. Depps performance bugged me a bit, but he had enough genuinely funny lines to make up for it I guess. The framing device was fuckin' pointless, absolutely pointless.
Also I'm not sure whether I should respect Hans Zimmer for making a relatively deep musical reference, or whether he's just being a fucking biter:
The Lone Ranger Soundtrack
Once Upon a Time Soundtrack
I was practically jumping up and down in my seat and nobody around me knew why I was pissed.
This post touched me :'(I don't know about the rest of you, but my heart always sinks when a new movie comes out and it gets panned in the reviews. The days that movies came out that everybody wanted to see and most could love to a degree seem to slipping into the past (or have they never been there truly?).
It just seems like such a waste. All that money, time and talent and the result is another movie that fails to meet (already low) expectations. If The Lone Ranger still does well at the box office, for me that will prove beyond a doubt that the average viewer has very low standards of quality and doesn't mind paying to see the same kind of movies over and over again as long as they look nice and offer spectacle (which will then continue to justify Hollywood's downward spiral into only releasing homogenized and flashy popcorn flicks), or that critics have extremely high standards that can rarely be met (by Hollywood at least). Unfortunately for me, my opinion usually falls in line with that of the critics so I'll probably have to accept that I won't be seeing many movies at the theaters anymore.
That's the problem. They insist in the "Pirates formula", is not going to happen again. They tried with the sorcerer's apprentice, prince of persia, national treasure and John Carter, Bruckheimer need to realise that the magic of Pirates is gone and they need something new, or keep pushing Marvel and Star Wars.Man, Disney is having a hard time capturing that Pirates success with new films.
That's the problem. They insist in the "Pirates formula", is not going to happen again. They tried with the sorcerer's apprentice, prince of persia, national treasure and John Carter, Bruckheimer need to realise that the magic of Pirates is gone and they need something new, or keep pushing Marvel and Star Wars.
I don't know about the rest of you, but my heart always sinks when a new movie comes out and it gets panned in the reviews. The days that movies came out that everybody wanted to see and most could love to a degree seem to slipping into the past (or have they never been there truly?).
It just seems like such a waste. All that money, time and talent and the result is another movie that fails to meet (already low) expectations. If The Lone Ranger still does well at the box office, for me that will prove beyond a doubt that the average viewer has very low standards of quality and doesn't mind paying to see the same kind of movies over and over again as long as they look nice and offer spectacle (which will then continue to justify Hollywood's downward spiral into only releasing homogenized and flashy popcorn flicks), or that critics have extremely high standards that can rarely be met (by Hollywood at least). Unfortunately for me, my opinion usually falls in line with that of the critics so I'll probably have to accept that I won't be seeing many movies at the theaters anymore.
Art and commerce have always, always, always been strange bedfellows. Films like The Godfather are very rare examples where the studio, critics, and audiences have been in tune with each other. The sooner you accept that, the happier you'll be.
Art and commerce have always, always, always been strange bedfellows. Films like The Godfather are very rare examples where the studio, critics, and audiences have been in tune with each other. The sooner you accept that, the happier you'll be.
We seem to get at least one or two a year, though, in terms of big budget crowd-pleasers that don't seem to sacrifice their own integrity and end up as good, fun films in their own right. The original Pirates, The Dark Knight, The Avengers, Star Trek (it bugged me as a Trek fan but it was undeniably successful), Inception, Jurassic Park, things like that. Granted, these sorts of blockbuster hits might be aiming slightly lower than things like The Godfather, but occasionally we still get legitimately great stuff out of the absurd studio budgeting system.
That disgusts me. Johnnys rationale for it during the press circuit is pathetic "Your warriors man"
I thought Johnny depp was part indian? I remember that being thrown around when he first got announced for Tonto
Lone Ranger Opens To Disastrous $9.7M, Despicable Me 2′ Destroys For Huge $34.3M
Ouch. John Carter bomba part 2. Good thing Disney has Iron Man 3 and Monsters University.
Which part of India is that?He said he might have a Cherokee grandmother maybe, which... yeah.
So you guys are saying this movie is pretty good even though it has a 26% rotten rating? I can't remember the last time a summer tentpole flick was this unanimously panned by critics.
I think the reviews killed this movie. It was tracking very strongly til the reviews hit.
Which part of India is that?![]()
Whitewashing the role of Tonto sure helped with your movie's marketability Disney.
Its a fake character, who cares? I know you think you are a writer, do you have anything online I can read? This movie looks terrible, but I would love to see what you write considering how much you love yourself.
Its a fake character, who cares? I know you think you are a writer, do you have anything online I can read? This movie looks terrible, but I would love to see what you write considering how much you love yourself.