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First Ryse Review
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Gucci Messiah
Banned
Please show me where I said that industry PR has never tried to influence a review score. Go on, I'll wait since you have poor reading comprehension skills.
Your initial post came off as a lame conspiracy theory that every high review score is paid for and that these reviewers are bought out. It was a terrible post and I'm not the only person here calling you out for its lunacy.
Clockwork5
Member
Please, tell me more ways the xp and money system are broken in a game you have never played and only heard one person's impressions.
Also please point to the part about button mashing. Everything he said praised the tight timing based combat. No mashing, unless you want to of course.
sixteen-bit
Member
QuiTE a surprising score considering the impressions.
2 Slice Toaster
Member
This is incredible stuff, keep it up.
Muppet of a Man
Member
I have foretold such things...
Bluekaveli
Member
The last quote
Phat Michael
Banned
Game is really good so far. Onto the 3rd chapter. Looks insane.
I have already won.
I basically gave you one game that thrived on word of mouth and spawned another IP with the exact same gameplay made by the same developers.
You then pointed out another game that helped my point.
Thing is, if your game is rated high enough, it will sell. It will have word of mouth. And chances are, it can become a series.
Catherine had one game. No sequel/prequel out. Not even announced. Not even hinted at.
Yet it sold very well for the budget and marketing it had.
Enthusiast of the genre will likely spread word of the game to other enthusiasts thus creating a hype around the title which will then have other people outside comment on it and having an interest in it.
Ever heard of the word HYPE?
It's the exact reason why I bought TES: Oblivion, even though I never cared for the genre before. Granted it ended up not being my thing, but I did buy a copy.
You can put all the money you want into marketing, but if your game is an unproven new IP made by people who haven't really made anything extraordinary and it ends up being mediocre... then it's not going to sell. Not enough to generate a profit.
Clockwork5
Member
What is wrong with it? Sounds honest to me...
silver.tongue
Member
No conspiracy. No moneyhatts.
Maybe the site just doesn't care about the PS4 at this point.
Ryse doesn't have a similar game to compare to at this alunch window, but from what I've seen (not played) DR3 is going to be a better game, even it it's uglier.
Sathsquatch
Member
Phat Michael, do you actually have Ryse?
People will see this game in stores and it will sell systems.
Glad I will get to play it on my Xbox One Friday!
No offense, but I haven't seen you talk about the gameplay. Other than everything looks purdy, which is a trademark from Crytek.
SEGAvangelist
Member
He sure does. Check the Xbox One OT. He's been writing updates in there.
He's posting pics in the OT.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
You pointed out one title.
ONE.
For every Demons Souls that becomes a hit via word of mouth there are 10 highly budgeted titles that move a lot of units mainly because of a strong marketing push.
I think you're viewing the world through forum goggles, most people don't give a shit about review scores or even bother to look them up. I can only think of a single friend that looks up review scores and isn't involved with a forum or gaming website; everyone else buys things based off of TV commercials, print advertisements, or impulse purchases.
Catherine has sold less than 1 million copies. My point is that reviews scores had absolutely nothing to do with that but I guarantee a bigger marketing budget would have driven more sales. That's why I'm sitting here telling you marketing = more sales, not high review scores.
After reading your post it's definitely clear that you don't grasp the perspective of the vast majority of consumers. Most consumers aren't reading GAF and feeding into the hype.
piratepwnsninja
Member
I don't think you understand. They can't have PS4 reviews if they don't have a PS4 and games to review. The PS4 isn't out there until the 29th.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Who do you work for? If it's not top dawg... most won't care.... but I appreciate your very limited post. Would love to hear some more
Shuggah_Daddy
Banned
I want to play this game, it looks stunning and yes I am a total graphics whore. I don't really care too much about it mostly being QTE shit honestly. Too bad I won't be playing it until next year sometime when I eventually get an XB1
GuitarAtomik
Member
This is patently false. Nothing about a game's rating guarantees any sale number.
Such a stupid post....any post like this is stupid. It's as much a QTE game as Batman...might as well call Mortal Kombat's finishing moves QTEs too...I mean, they are the same buttons to finish someone off EVERY time in both games.
The difference is Ryse apparently has over 100 finishers, your supposed optional QTEs, that outnumber other games with per-programmed ways to knockout/end an enemy.
Even if the gameplay isn't up to par, it's probably a pretty insulting and ignorant comment to say that it was "easy" to develop this game.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Why would that be hilarious? I expect that is where it will land; high 70s or low 80s.
3rdamention
Member
Here was TechCrunch's impression of Ryse. They posted it in their Xbox One Review. Make of it what you will, but it sounds like what we are hearing from some user impressions.
TechCrunch said:
I see what you did there!
nkarafo
Member
I'm not saying its easy to develop the graphics engines and all these textures i'm saying that with a QTE based gameplay they save time because they don't have to work as much on the gameplay department.
Console isn't out yet over there.
Fried Food
Banned
The critics said the same things about Knack. I think Knack is a good game.
prove me wrong then. Do mention it's budget and if it was financially successful or not.
@Gucci Messiah
clearly you do not have the academics smart to judge a game by how financially successful it was.
I don't glance throw games based on how well they're perceived on forums.
I judge them if they made a profit and if so why did they make that profit.
And excluding bizarre exceptions, most games do turn a profit based on how high they scored and how good it's word of mouth was.
Not everything needs to sell 10 million to be considered successful.
flamingotripod
Member
If Ryse gets over 75 on metacritic, will that be the end of gaf?
3rdamention
Member
Why? Cause it got decent scores? I don't understand, cause that would be higher than Killzone?
weekend_warrior
Banned
Same score he gave to COD:Ghosts.
Clockwork5
Member
Don't worry. After Crysis 3, I have more than a doubt.
Unknown One
Member
This game doesn't seem like it would score 70+ average.
Why do people always say stuff like this, reviewers don't reference every game they have reviewed when rating a game, they don't compare them to every other game they have ever reviewed you know, maybe if they were the same genre but Killzone and Ryse are not.
They both look to be largely mindless romps through particle and specularity land, so it wouldn't really surprise me.
Vicetrailia
Member
Seems like a game that will hover in the 60s, but dem graphics are hopefully just that good.