Schwarzbier
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I'm gonna follow this one for sure, thanks for letting us know about this!
Never understood how this works.
You can't get your own shit off the ground, how are you going to signal boost me?
As it turns out, those assholes looking to get someone to do 30-60 minutes of animation for free(!!!!) were Men's Rights Activists....the name of their project is "THE RED PILL HARDCORE Radio & TV".
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1424670
Can't wait to see what Snowden-level leak they have uncovered! Hopefully they can find an animator that wants to become world famous.
As it turns out, those assholes looking to get someone to do 30-60 minutes of animation for free(!!!!) were Men's Rights Activists....the name of their project is "THE RED PILL HARDCORE Radio & TV".
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1424670
Can't wait to see what Snowden-level leak they have uncovered! Hopefully they can find an animator that wants to become world famous.
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Decoupage is serious business.This one is hilarious and depressing because you've got all that writing exposing this person for acting like your standard creepy, entitled scumbag, and then there's "cutting pictures out of magazines and gluing them to boxes."
Like, what.
This is actually a sad reality.The issue is that everyone does this stuff for free, so it'll never end.
Millennials killing the unpaid work industry
This is actually a sad reality.
In photoshop request threads on GAF for instance, you'll see a few dozen people ridiculing the OP for the audacity, but someone will always acquiesce.
In my profession - animation - there's the union in California meant to protect artists from shady wages, mandatory long hours, and a wealth of abuses. As much everyone agrees these are necessary to the basic happiness of any employee, there's always someone willing to put in "just a little extra effort" for recognition or an advantage, admittedly sometimes myself included.
When I did primarily contract design and code work I had a freaking website with my rates clearly written in the contact page. And People would still call and email me DAILY asking me to do their shot for free.
I'm inclined to think at this point that people are just idiots.
Here are some examples
No one is going to beg a video editor or sound engineer to do shit for them for free. People just have this weird double standard.
Really? People expect you to do audio mixing and shit "for exposure"? Jesus. lolI wish this was true, but it's not. Granted I primarily do music, but I also do sound design and engineering.
Bit of all three really. I just feel bad for the college kid some of them will inevitably sucker into doing it so they "have it for their future references". And of course most of them don't know better.Or they just don't give a fuck. Or they think they're hot shit.
Really? People expect you to do audio mixing and shit "for exposure"? Jesus. lol
Yeah, it's worse for writers when the barrier for entry is even lower and there are dozens of platforms that exist on a "for exposure" basis.
The funny thing is that there are probably some creative industries that are safe. No one is going to beg a video editor or sound engineer to do shit for them for free. People just have this weird double standard.
Really? People expect you to do audio mixing and shit "for exposure"? Jesus. lol
I work as a chef/cook.
People come up to me "Hey wow, you can cook...can you cater my party?"
"Alright what's your budget?"
"Budget? cant you just cook for me?"
"Well who's going to buy the food?"
"Dont you make the food?"
".........."
Really? People expect you to do audio mixing and shit "for exposure"? Jesus. lol
Decoupage is serious business.
You would be surprised how many people are unable to comprehend the worth of art.
It's like people just can't understand the worth of something unless is within the parameters of a 9 to 5 profession.
Wrong. I do both and I've had people ask me. And I'm not even a professional.
Some people are really desperate to get their foot in the door I guess.
Man, people are terrible. lolI don't really advertise myself as a sound engineer for mixing other peoples' audio, but I write my own music which requires a ton of work mixing. So indirectly, yes. I also know a couple people with home studios who do record and engineer for bands, and people ask them for favors all the time.
The issue is that everyone does this stuff for free, so it'll never end.
Agencies that do creative work are subject to this as well. "It would be great for you if you do this work for free, and we'd like a clause written into the agreement stating that our work together is confidential. Do that, and it's possible you'll receive more work from us."
Agency/client relationship. It's great.
In brazil we had one that acepted every single one of those requested and did the shittiest job he could do (drawing dicks on ms paint level) and posted the art and the reaction xD
Yeah, I'm basically in the same position.Yep.
I'm very guilty of this. I do game reviewing on the side, but I keep taking unpaid gigs. Why? Because I enjoy writing. I've tried to quit a few times, but I get so bored and restless that I end up going back.
What's really funny (and sad) about "exposure" is that I used to write reviews on Steam. When your review is featured on the very same page as the purchase button, you can't get anymore exposure than that.
I keep telling myself that one day I'll actually put together a resume and start shopping around for paid work. Thing is, I don't have the confidence to pull it off.
Sucks.
God yes this! It's like they assume you have all this free food laying around going to waste that you're not sharing. Like I barely eat adequately myself and you want me to prepare a full meal for 50+ people for free? Cut down on the amount of drugs you're consuming, save up that money, then call me.I work as a chef/cook.
People come up to me "Hey wow, you can cook...can you cater my party?"
"Alright what's your budget?"
"Budget? cant you just cook for me?"
"Well who's going to buy the food?"
"Dont you make the food?"
".........."
So something to consider here: There are absolutely windows where doing something for "exposure" is worthwhile. Evaluating those windows intelligently is what matters.
Case in point. I barely made any money doing 20 hours+ a week broadcasting Overwatch community tournaments for the better part of 7 months or so. However, I knew that I'd be building skills and a brand in a field where being in early mattered very much. As a result, it gave me a strong resume to do things like broadcast for TBS on ELEAGUE, or work events like Blizzcon.
If I took the hardline approach of wanting top tier caster rates from Day 1 (For small 120-500 dollar tournaments) not only would I not have gotten those rates, but I wouldn't have had incredible opportunities come to me later.
The main thing is to evaluate every situation and realize that if you do work for less, seeing if there is a bigger plan or more tangible goal that it will actually work into. It's not black and white as some people paint it in this thread.
So something to consider here: There are absolutely windows where doing something for "exposure" is worthwhile. Evaluating those windows intelligently is what matters.
Case in point. I barely made any money doing 20 hours+ a week broadcasting Overwatch community tournaments for the better part of 7 months or so. However, I knew that I'd be building skills and a brand in a field where being in early mattered very much. As a result, it gave me a strong resume to do things like broadcast for TBS on ELEAGUE, or work events like Blizzcon (events that of course had very competitive pay).
If I took the hardline approach of wanting top tier caster rates from Day 1 (For small 120-500 dollar tournaments) not only would I not have gotten those rates, but I wouldn't have had incredible opportunities come to me later.
The main thing is to evaluate every situation and realize that if you do work for less, seeing if there is a bigger plan or more tangible goal that it will actually work into. It's not black and white as some people paint it in this thread.