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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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jakonovski
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What's wrong with physics at 360Hz?
BenjaminBirdie
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commedieu said:
And?
I don't. It makes no difference as far as how the game itself plays. I swear, you and Interfectum dance around any sentence you don't like (or in his case, every single post I've ever made in this thread, even the ones directly addressing him, which is disappointing).
I'd really like to know what you thought of the demo and how you feel the gameplay stands up to Prologue. (Unless you've posted this already and I missed it.) DG can say whatever he pleases. The words aren't going to form into some kind of sentient blob that are going to sap features from either GT5 or FM3's game discs.
I mean seriously, why would anyone care, much less me?
theignoramus
Member
I look forward to the hypocrisy and double standards you and some of the others in here are 100% guaranteed to demonstrate when a Sony dev makes similar statements.BenjaminBirdie said:
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
theignoramus said:
I wouldn't hold your breath as far as I'm concerned, tag or no.
more food
Forza Motorsport 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Prologue comparison
F430 Suzuka comparison - Forza wins
http://www.gameswire.net/comparison...vs-gran-turismo-5-prologue-comparison_35.html
Forza Motorsport 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Prologue comparison
F430 Suzuka comparison - Forza wins
http://www.gameswire.net/comparison...vs-gran-turismo-5-prologue-comparison_35.html
Interfectum, there is no 'half of a lens flare' feature in photoshop, bud. You're on fumes at this point.
But I will hand it to you---you have been, by far, the most entertaining part of this thread. One step short of someone having a clusterfuck meltdown of epic proportions, slitting their wrists and bleeding all over a burning effigy of Dan Greenwalt on youtube for all to see, it is YOU who have made this one worth coming back to!
er, in what way? there's more background detail, yeah, but if you're comparing the IQ of these shots, I wouldn't be quick to agree...
But I will hand it to you---you have been, by far, the most entertaining part of this thread. One step short of someone having a clusterfuck meltdown of epic proportions, slitting their wrists and bleeding all over a burning effigy of Dan Greenwalt on youtube for all to see, it is YOU who have made this one worth coming back to!
shinnn said:
er, in what way? there's more background detail, yeah, but if you're comparing the IQ of these shots, I wouldn't be quick to agree...
Angelus Errare
Banned
MSAA is needed....badly
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
That's pretty old, stale food actually. I remember seeing that same block of JPGs like a week ago.
Always-honest
Banned
shinnn said:
people like you make the world a better place
nah.. not really.. no
Interfectum
Member
Maybe they should run their collision detection at 360Hz too
Images courtesy of Gameswire
Again, fanatics, don't shoot the messenger
Always-honest
Banned
Durante said:
they both have some qualities... but neither are fun to play like for instance:
- mario kart wii
- burnout paradise
- Motorstorm Pr
- AND HELL... NFS shift
belvedere said:
yeah, no.
The prologue car definitely has better lighting, and the overall image is certainly smoother, I'll give it that easily. forza 3 has more trackside detail, better vehicle shadows, and better track lighting and shadow. I'm unaware of what their capture process is (framebuffer grab I assume?) but this is a bit more of an aliased mess than it actually is. Still, based on overall image quality, I'd say based on these shots prologue looks nicer.
Interfectum said:
Hmm. my only problem here, mr messenger, is that you can turn off all collisions in online play (it keeps bumper-car racers from pulling their crap). Had you ever, you know, played any of the games you're so frantic to criticize, you'd know that ;-) certainly makes for fun screenshots though!
Cat in the Hat
Member
I knew your act was familiar and as soon as you posted those pics I remembered who you remind me of.Interfectum said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=46880
Alt account got banned and this thread was ammo to come out with the regular account?
theignoramus
Member
But so was yours.Keikoku said:
:lol
AdventureRacing
Member
If i wasn't told which was which i wouldn't know. In motion i wont be able to tell the difference. Kind of makes all this effort trying to decide which is better pretty damn pointless.
Pretty much this. I don't mind some GT or forza but they wont come close to being my favourite racing games this gen.
Always-honest said:
Pretty much this. I don't mind some GT or forza but they wont come close to being my favourite racing games this gen.
theignoramus
Member
KeikokuKeikoku said:
Surrender to PS3
Too easy.
dfyb said:
Not at first--That was the first thing I thought of when I saw those, though. I should see if I can turn off collisions offline for the sake of the argument. : )
edit--found the article, as usual, he decided not to post the source, or the context:
http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-in-game-glitches-exposed_214.html
either way, he's presenting this as somehow being the 'norm', when no one has had any issue with anything like that thus far. Which is kind of his game, after all. As someone who has a green disc copy, i can tell you they've asked us to report any and all glitches we find, as the 'review' builds we have, while content complete, are still considered pre-production (I imagine that any major bugs will be patched on launch day). So why exactly they're making an article about it, I'm not certain. As for me, I've encountered a texture loading glitch on one track, thus far, and that's it. I've never had any collision issues along the lines of what they describe above--and yeah, I've taken to driving backwards on the ring to see just how many times I can roll my car
Death Dealer
Member
shinnn said:
The extra mountains in the far distant scenery are nice.
This thread is almost over guys. I know it's been a long wait, but at last, I, Cataferal of the Neogaf Gaming Discussion forums, am about to unleash my much hyped opinion on the comparison between these two racing games. You're going to need to sit down in order to take in the magnitude of my words.
Are you ready for it?
Here it comes....
They...
both look absolutely amazing.
You'll be happy regardless of which one you choose.
Thank you kind ladies and sirs, and I hope you all have a wonderful evening.
Are you ready for it?
Here it comes....
They...
both look absolutely amazing.
You'll be happy regardless of which one you choose.
Thank you kind ladies and sirs, and I hope you all have a wonderful evening.
m0dus said:
Modus I respect you, but good lord only a blind person could honestly convince themselves that FM3 looks better than GT5. Yeah, GT5, not GT5p which is all we have to compare a finished FM3 to. Also, how many cars does FM3 produce on screen at what resolution again? Looking worse doesn't make FM3 a bad game. You overly sensitive individuals need to understand this.
painful fart
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Interfectum
Member
m0dus said:
Interfectum said:
You must have missed that in your hurry to discredit them
dfyb said:
Quick time to find another excuse
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I don't see the fuss over the 360 Hz comment? Many game engines have their physics engine(s) running decoupled from the framerate, and it's very common to have even a basic physics engine running at least double the framerate. So if there are multiple physics engines at work, 360 Hz isn't at all out of the question. One of the last games I worked on had at least 3 physics engines running at one time, with two of them being pretty hefty.
painful fart
Member
I don´t think people is questioning the 360 number. It´s just funny that Dan is trying to come up with some number that he can throw around and compare to the GT series as he has no clue what kind of physics calculations the GT5 will use, or even what frequency the GT5 Prologue game uses.XiaNaphryz said:
The frequency number in it self is also not the only important number when it comes to physics qualities, so it really makes him look stupid, pulling that number out of his hat and making comparative statements to the GT franchise. :lol
shinnn said:
Is Suzuka one of GT5
's best tracks? Apparently we can't compare them unless it is one of GT5's best tracks. I don't think it is one of Forza's best looking tracks, But still, there is definitely a lot more detail and variation in the textures in the Forza version of it vs the Prologue version.
theignoramus
Member
No. Dan Greenawalt simply feels his game offers others a challenge to live up to.painful fart said:
Anyone criticizing his sentiments deserves to be mocked.
You ignorant cunt.
belvedere said:
Overly sensitive? Dude, you're binging GT5 into the discussion, and presenting opinion as fact. You can argue about being blind, but like it or not, these games excel in different areas, and people who are NOT obsessed with system-warz bullshit are going to base their preferences on these areas. I've done the prologue / fm3 comparisons on my own TV for crying out loud; There are obvious areas where each trumps the other. Deciding which is the 'best' is always going to be a matter of opinion, and people need to realize that. That's the only 'fact' here, and it's overly sensitive NOT to accept it.
God, posting in this thread is like jumping into a fucking swamp
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Xun said:
I believe it was Michelin; tire physics.