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[Fox Mulder]

It´s because we will never know if it couldn´t have been better if it hadn´t been designed with last gen in mind.

where are the developers saying this is true?

titanfall was intended for next gen, and a separate studio ported it down to the 360. The same thing is happening here.

 

[HeliosT10]

Hi Helios since they already confirmed the weather system can you confirm that it still has the Day Night cycle like FH1?

Hey there Wereroku,

Information on that will be clarified in tomorrows hands-on preview by IGN First.

 

[twobear]

Sounds good. I thought based on earlier concept art it was located in the Southern States of the US not Europe. Sort of rather it be in Europe anyway so the change is good.

On a side note, hopefully it's a highly adapted version of the Forza 5 engine, as technically and graphically speaking, F5's engine isn't exactly particularly forward thinking or advanced.

Well I think the Forza Horizon engine on 360 was built out of the Forza 4 engine so hopefully your concerns will be assuaged.

 

[U2NUMB]

That may not be true, we don't know the full capabilities of the engine. It might very well be capable of graphical features such as dynamic lighting, but they decided to omit that from F5 to meet that 60fps target.

And of course the launch of a new system... that no doubt had more to do with any issues Forza 5 had. Tough to hit that launch window.

 

[Exploratory]

Wow I remember how tons of people were saying MS was going to drop 360 support and they were bastards for it. Now that they aren't doing that people are complaining about cross gen.

More importantly why do we have to deal with this "Why don't they show the 360 version?" bs over and over. Its obvious. They don't want people who don't know any better to confuse the platforms.

 

[EchoChamber]

This time we will get 3D people?

 

[FrankT]

QUOTE=nib95;114409126]Right….but Forza Horizon 2 will most likely be 30fps. So I guess this game will disappoint in that respect too. Unless [insert excuse here].[/QUOTE]

Kind of disappointing like the first then right.

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

But 30fps is unplayable in a racing game, remember?

Preferable. Not unplayable.

This is the X1 right.. weaker hardware. PS4 is mighty. Maybe that's why they complained? Not sure. DriveClub looks pretty good. But now there's FH 2 at the same time.

Mmmmm. first one was so good!

Wow I remember how tons of people were saying MS was going to drop 360 support and they were bastards for it. Now that they aren't doing that people are complaining about cross gen.

More importantly why do we have to deal with this "Why don't they show the 360 version?" bs over and over. Its obvious. They don't want people who don't know any better to confuse the platforms.

I like that people are telling other people they're living in the past by having a 360 still and we're only 7 months or so into the newest generation. Now early adopting is what people should be doing it seems. Lol.. pretty funny.

 

[GlamFM]

I'm sorry, are you comparing VHS players from the 90s to the 360 which hundreds of millions of people still own and use? Just because you bought an Xbox One and don't use your 360 anymore doesn't mean anyone owes you anything. Companies need to make money, and if millions of people still play games on the 360 (hint: they do) then companies will continue to make games for the 360 (hint: they will).

Jeez, some of you act like the 360 should have been wiped off the face of the Earth as soon as the Xbox One was released.

Sure - but every copy of H2 for 360 sold is a potential XB1 customer lost. At least for a while.
I assume selling XB1s is also considered a way to make money?

 

[Wereroku]

Hey there Wereroku,

Information on that will be clarified in tomorrows hands-on preview by IGN First.

Ok sounds good looking forward to this since FH1 and F5 were both awesome games.

 

[nib95]

Right….but Forza Horizon 2 will most likely be 30fps. So I guess this game will disappoint in that respect too. Unless [insert excuse here].

Kind of disappointing like the first then right.

No. I was a big fan of the first, and some of my fave racers of all time have been 30fps, so that doesn't bother me in the slightest. In-fact, I'd rather have 30fps and blown out visuals and vistas in an arcade racer over 60fps and diminished visuals. That's just me.

 

[ekim]

Hope they have the same audio team putting the set list together.

H1's soundtrack was SICK.

** hugs Horizon Pulse **

afaik the soundtrack was put together by a BBC radio DJ.

 

[NintendoRev]

Can't wait for this. Loved the first Horizon and this will be pretty damned awesome on the X1.

 

[Sendou]

Right….but Forza Horizon 2 will most likely be 30fps. So I guess this game will disappoint in that respect too. Unless [insert excuse here].

It better be 60FPS but if we're talking about Forza 5 I say I'd rather play a bad looking game running at 60FPS (and F5 doesn't even look that bad) than good looking game running at 30FPS. No exceptions when it comes to fast paced games such as these.

 

[HeliosT10]

Ok sounds good looking forward to this since FH1 and F5 were both awesome games.

Great to hear, I'm confident you won't be disappointed!

I've been waiting for this week for a long while now

 

[twobear]

That may not be true, we don't know the full capabilities of the engine. It might very well be capable of graphical features such as dynamic lighting, but they decided to omit that from F5 to meet that 60fps target.

Didn't Forza Horizon have dynamic lighting, day/night cycles, open world? And it was built on Forza 4's engine.

 

[bedlamite]

The rock selection didn't do much for me, the EDM channel was pretty good though

Fred Falke's remix of Nero's Reaching out...awesome stuff.

 

[PG2G]

Don't know why you guys would expect anything other than 30fps for this game. Horizon was 30fps but the Forza games were 60fps, why expect a change?

 

[GlamFM]

Didn't Forza Horizon have dynamic lighting, day/night cycles, open world? And it was built on Forza 4's engine.

Yes, yes & yes.

 

[JaggedSac]

No. I was a big fan of the first, and some of my fave racers of all time have been 30fps, so that doesn't bother me in the slightest. In-fact, I'd rather have 30fps and blown out visuals and vistas in an arcade racer over 60fps and diminished visuals. That's just me.

Same here

 

[nib95]

It better be 60FPS but if we're talking about Forza 5 I say I'd rather play a bad looking game running at 60FPS (and F5 doesn't even look that bad) than good looking game running at 30FPS. No exceptions when it comes to fast paced games such as these.

Have you ever played NFS, DIRT, GRID, Forza Horizon, PGR etc?

 

[Fox Mulder]

It better be 60FPS but if we're talking about Forza 5 I say I'd rather play a bad looking game running at 60FPS (and F5 doesn't even look that bad) than good looking game running at 30FPS. No exceptions when it comes to fast paced games such as these.

I agree.

I loved Horizon, but wished it was 60 fps. I'm still able to go back and have fun with something like Grand Prix Challenge on the ps2 with it's 22 car grid and 60 fps.

 

[Jarrod38]

Did the first Horizon have a free roam mode?

 

[Prine]

based ntkrnl

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[Aaron D.]

More importantly why do we have to deal with this "Why don't they show the 360 version?" bs over and over. Its obvious. They don't want people who don't know any better to confuse the platforms.

Well duh, you remember how fugly Horizon 1 was, don't you?

 

[Ray Wonder]

Not at all, we've got some really cool features planned that will provide more in-depth info than you'd normally get in a regular preview article.

We've got lots to tell you about the game and IGN First is going to be a great platform to get that mass of info out there to you.

Sounds awesome. I can't wait to see what's in store.

 

[Dunkers92]

Hell yeah!! Loved the first one

A bit of a strange decision to put it on 360, but this and Sunset Overdrive are the two games this year that will probably push me over the edge to get a One

 

[Platinum_D]

I have the 1st one and it was amazing but why are they going cross-gen here instead of focusing on just the Xbox One version..little worrisome

 

[Raven77]

Helios, are you allowed to comment on whether or not the game was specifically designed on the XBOX ONE first and foremost, and then ported down to the 360?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Cross Gen on a 1st party major IP means they do not have that much faith in how it would sell only on XB1. No other way to put it.

So like MLB the Show and Smash Bros, then.

 

[Bgamer90]

I'm thinking the opposite; to not hurt potential Xbox One sales, like with TITANFALL.

Highly doubt it. Open world so it should run/look significantly better on Xbox One than 360.

 

[Sendou]

Have you ever played NFS, DIRT, GRID, Forza Horizon, PGR etc?

I have played some of those titles. Does it matter?

I'm just not sure I understand what makes you say "F5's engine isn't exactly particularly forward thinking or advanced" when there's no comparision point. No other current-gen racer on consoles is 1080p @ 60FPS. That's also why Forza 5 automatically wins in my opinion. 30FPS makes me ill when the game is moving in a quick fashion (so actually most of the 3D games that are made).

 

[Spacecowboy77]

Southern Europe is an excellent choice

So psyched for this, gonna pick up a XB1 strictly for this game

 

[GlamFM]

This being cross gen makes it a no-buy for me. Unless they come out and state that the game was specifically designed on the XBOX ONE first and foremost, and then ported down to the 360, I have no interest.

I didn't buy a new console to play high-res, better textured versions of last-gen games.

They kind of said that.

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

Sure - but every copy of H2 for 360 sold is a potential XB1 customer lost. At least for a while.
I assume selling XB1s is also considered a way to make money?

I don't think it hurt Sony much and made them lose customers buying a PS4 by launching GT6 on the PS3 instead of PS4 launch.

 

[twobear]

This being cross gen makes it a no-buy for me. Unless they come out and state that the game was specifically designed on the XBOX ONE first and foremost, and then ported down to the 360, I have no interest.

I didn't buy a new console to play high-res, better textured versions of last-gen games.

how are you enjoying the ps4 version of watch_dogs?

[edit] awww you edited your post

 

[Bgamer90]

Helios, are you allowed to comment on whether or not the game was specifically designed on the XBOX ONE first and foremost, and then ported down to the 360?

It was. It has already been stated. Hence why the main team is working on the XB1 version.

 

[Aaron D.]

Did the first Horizon have a free roam mode?

Yup.

That was the whole game, essentially. You only engaged in career mode when you drove to specific event locations on your map. The rest was free-roam.

 

[Dance Inferno]

Sure - but every copy of H2 for 360 sold is a potential XB1 customer lost. At least for a while.
I assume selling XB1s is also considered a way to make money?

It is, but Microsoft has to be sure that the game in question is a system seller. I don't know that most people would consider Horizon 2 a system seller. It probably sells a modest amount of copies, so spreading that risk over two systems makes sense.

Now a game like Halo 5 - that will sell no matter which system you put it on. So limiting it to Xbox One makes sense because people will buy an XB1 to play that. I don't know that lots of people will buy an XB1 just to play Horizon 2.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Good for the 360 base, but weird decision, first party titles across both is.. it does not seem like the best way to sell your new existing hardware.

 

[HeliosT10]

They kind of said that.

Beat me to it.

 

[cyberheater]

I really hope they've done a lot of development on that Forza 5 engine. Driveclub has raised the bar relative to lighting.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Did the first Horizon have a free roam mode?

yes

Good for the 360 base, but weird decision, first party titles across both is.. it does not seem like the best way to sell your new existing hardware.

obviously there'll be a point where support drops off, but the xbox one hasn't even been out a year or even released in some places.

 

[GlamFM]

I don't think it hurt Sony much and made them lose customers buying a PS4 by launching GT6 on the PS3 instead of PS4 launch.

Sure, but as we know it would take Polyphony roughly 26 years to create next gen assets - so in this case it was more of a decision between a racer on PS3 or no racer at all.

 

[BruiserBear]

I really hope they've done a lot of development on that Forza 5 engine. Driveclub has raised the bar relative to lighting.

Forza 5 runs at twice the framerate of Driveclub.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Did the first Horizon have a free roam mode?

Yes

 

[jem0208]

Hey there Wereroku,

Information on that will be clarified in tomorrows hands-on preview by IGN First.

Well that doesn't seem promising :0

 

[Jomjom]

I hope no one who is complaining about cross gen ever complained that MS abandoned the 360.

 

[Sendou]

Forza 5 runs at twice the framerate of Driveclub.

You have to say that posts like that are good examples of why devs go for that 30FPS .

 

[Wereroku]

So like MLB the Show and Smash Bros, then.

Thanks man that's what I couldn't remember. MLB the Show is probably the only Playstation cross-gen game. Though its not really surprising since I think they have a MLB 2012 ps2 game.

Well that doesn't seem promising :0

Naw I think its more of a PR schedule thing from the way Helios said that.