Support NeoGAF

[RetroStu]

Agenda poster.

And there is plenty of them in this thread (and most X1 threads).

No but seriously, hardly anyone plays the same game for more than a year (outside of an mmo or something) so what difference does it make if some games come out yearly?.
If its a good game then bring it on i say.

 

[Grisby]

DTR.

Down to race. Day 1 for me.

 

[FordGTGuy]

lol, didn't Forza 5 have screenshots released first as well.............which ended up looking nothing like the official release........I'm going to wait for some real gameplay footage before I get excited. I have a feeling we are going to get some bullshots tomorrow

The "bullshots" for Forza Horizon pretty much looked like it did in-game.

 

[PanicFreak]

First parties are expected to showcase the hardware they're on. If Microsoft doesn't do it, who will?

360 owners that don't have the Xbox One don't feel like they need to upgrade, early One adopters feel like they spent 499 bucks on a new system to play slightly prettier versions of the same games, which they may not be happy about unless they're huge graphics enthusiasts, and which may prompt them to wait longer next time.

It's one game. And as far as we know, it's currently the only game Microsoft is publishing in 2014 that will be cross-platform.

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Oh wow, Sumo Digital handling the port? Right on.

 

[Family Fry]

360 version by Sumo Digital?
Least it will be a good port.

 

[Wereroku]

Why would they be assisting with the 360 version and why would they aim for experience parity?

The 360 is very likely to be based on the engine that was used in Horizon 1 with some tweaks done to introduce weather.

The same reason Respawn did they want all versions of their game to be good. I am not saying its going to adversely effect the XBO version just that they will make sure that it can be adjusted downward. I don't know why people think they won't just port the engine down to save time on asset creation and distribution.

 

[Kelsey]

On IGN

UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

--

I'm fully OK with that !

If I remember correctly, they worked on the Sonic Racing games. Good deal.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

This was the case with Titanfall and the game still wound up looking pretty bad on both systems.

Also looked bad on PC. The game just wasn't a looker...

 

[NIN90]

360 version by Sumo Digital?
Least it will be a good port.

What's their track record?

 

[FyreWulff]

Much better actually saying who the dev is this time around. Hiding Bluepoint last time was stupid.

 

[ThanksVision]

I love the first and I don't have an Xbox One. I would like to pick up the sequel, but it'll be a hard sell when the XONE version is clearly superior.

Why is MS dropping all these releases the week before E3? Sigh

 

[Dragonborn]

The "bullshots" for Forza Horizon pretty much looked like it did in-game.

No. Granted, I've only played Forza 5 for a few hours (since I don't own an X1), but the game looked nowhere near as good as the E3 build. Unless the game gets better hours later?

 

[Miles Quaritch]

The same reason Respawn did they want all versions of their game to be good. I am not saying its going to adversely effect the XBO version just that they will make sure that it can be adjusted downward. I don't know why people think they won't just port the engine down to save time on asset creation and distribution.

Because there's already an engine that works flawlessly on the 360? Down porting the F5 engine seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth.

 

[klodeckel]

No. Granted, I've only played Forza 5 for a few hours (since I don't own an X1), but the game looked nowhere near as good as the E3 build. Unless the game gets better hours later?

Read his post again He was talking about FH.

 

[cyberheater]

On IGN

UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

--

I'm fully OK with that !

Thanks for the update.

 

[xiaxdragon]

The "bullshots" for Forza Horizon pretty much looked like it did in-game.

im talking forza 5 however.........they did a fantastic job on Forza Horizon though.

I'm having a hard time seeing this hitting 1080p however with how many corners were cut just to get it there initially. F5 had baked lighting, no night time racing, no weather.

 

[Booshka]

What's their track record?

Puns be killing me.

 

[justsomeguy]

The screenshots will make it look great regardless. Forza 5 looked great at E3 and then the final release took quite the downgrade.

You're in danger of setting impossibly high standards for yourself here... no games that exist on lesser hardware and no game which takes a downgrade between its E3 reveal and its release... won't leave you much to play. Basically PS4 first party exclusives and that's about it. (edit: minus the downgraded ones, of course)

 

[VanWinkle]

What's their track record?

More recently, Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed. They also did some LBP stuff that was quite good.

 

[viveks86]

On IGN

UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

--

I'm fully OK with that !

Cool!

 

[FordGTGuy]

No. Granted, I've only played Forza 5 for a few hours (since I don't own an X1), but the game looked nowhere near as good as the E3 build. Unless the game gets better hours later?

I'll say it again.

The "bullshots" for Forza Horizon pretty much looked like it did in-game.

im talking forza 5 however.........they did a fantastic job on Forza Horizon though.

I'm having a hard time seeing this hitting 1080p however with how many corners were cut just to get it there initially. F5 had baked lighting, no night time racing, no weather.

Uh... this is coming out a year after Forza 5 which was 1080p at launch using the same engines...

 

[c0de]

I expect the game to look gorgeous to be honest.

The first one already did, even by today's standards. Can't wait for screenshots!

 

[Kelsey]

No. Granted, I've only played Forza 5 for a few hours (since I don't own an X1), but the game looked nowhere near as good as the E3 build. Unless the game gets better hours later?

What does that have to do with the first Horizon looking like its bullshots?

 

[RayMaker]

On IGN

UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

--

I'm fully OK with that !

So its going similar to call of duty 2, the proper next gen version was released on the 360 and PC, the XBOXog and especially the ps2 got the gimped big red one.

 

[EBE]

yeah Forza Horizon was a technical powerhouse. im dumbfounded at what playground were able to do on the 360. FH2 is going to be crazy.

 

[ZERATUL PL]

Graphics are not that important its the vibe from horizon that kept me going

 

[Twin Tails]

cant wait to see more

 

[R3TRODYCE]

I miss all the cool announcements when I'm at work...

I can't wait for this.

 

[Dragonborn]

Read his post again He was talking about FH.

Ah, seems I automatically placed Forza 5 in there since the original post was about Forza 5. Horizons did look amazing for a 360 game. I wouldn't even be mad at 30FPS if they get it to 1080p with amazing visuals. For now, all I'll say is I'm surprised it's cross-gen, I'm glad that it is since it's one less reason to drop $500 on an X1 this year, and I'm going to wait to see the final result before jumping to any more conclusions.

 

[Facism]

> If MS make this Xbox One only, people say that MS are forgetting about the 360 and leaving it for dead.
> If MS make this cross-gen, people say that MS aren't dedicated enough in their own next gen hardware.

They can't win with some of you. I'm yet to get an XB1, will probably buy one at the end of this year (already have a PS4). What I played of Forza Horizon on 360 was very good.

are these the same people, though?

 

[Steverulez]

Sumo Digital on 360 duty

 

[Bucket-o-roadkill]

Sumo doing the 360 version? NOOOooo they need to be doing another Sonic Kart Racer for next gen...!!

 

[jbug617]

Sumo Digital doing the 360 ver
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/02/ign-first-forza-horizon-2-announced

 

[Bgamer90]

But that's the thing. They pretty much abandoned the 360 years ago. Why support it now? Not that I'm complaining, of course, just wondering what their thought process for this was. This just means I'll get to play it for sure.

Years ago?

Gears of War Judgement did come out last year. Halo 4 and Forza Horizon before that.

I mean if one game per year = "not abandoned" then that means they have never abonded the 360.

 

[The Rain King]

The persecution complex is strong in this thread. I haven't noticed anyone complaining in a QB/inFamous SS thread that MS/Sony are abandoning the 360/PS3.

This game seems to have a die hard fan base. I think it'll sell well on 360 and xb1.

 

[FordGTGuy]

are these the same people, though?

Does it really matter? Both opinions are bad.

It's not a either/or kind of thing.

 

[Klocker]

im talking forza 5 however.........they did a fantastic job on Forza Horizon though.

I'm having a hard time seeing this hitting 1080p however with how many corners were cut just to get it there initially. F5 had baked lighting, no night time racing, no weather.

Yea, let's toss out an notion of 1080p 60fps (like F5) as the additional effects will eat into that budget

900/60 or 1080/30 would be my guess

 

[Miles Quaritch]

On IGN

UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

--

I'm fully OK with that !

Well damn, now I'm suddenly interested in the 360 version too...

 

[Winterfang]

Microsoft supporting the Xbox 360 with exclusives stills is a win in my book. It wouldn't stop people for saying the only Sony supported the PS3 since 2012 or something dumb like that. I wonder what the hell is going in the Microsoft convence if they are dropping bombs before, left and right.?

 

[TrueGrime]

Hell yes. Just like I said in the cross-gen thread, two different developers should work on the game. One for the main, the other for the last gen port.

So great to wake up to this megaton.

 

[Wereroku]

Because there's already an engine that works flawlessly on the 360? Down porting the F5 engine seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth.

But that involves making new assets for 2 different systems and with a car game its all about the assets. But who knows maybe you are right luckily we only have to wait till the fall to find out. Then we have some new open world driving to waste tons of hours in. I hope we get mp3 support by then because I love me some cruising music and the streaming is a little annoying for me.

 

[RetroStu]

im talking forza 5 however.........they did a fantastic job on Forza Horizon though.

I'm having a hard time seeing this hitting 1080p however with how many corners were cut just to get it there initially. F5 had baked lighting, no night time racing, no weather.

Most of that was because of time constraints rather than engine problems, that Take 10 guy even said that and how they had to prioritize certain things.

Plus i would bet that Horizons will be locked 30fps like the first game.

 

[javie3d]

DAY 1

 

[Artex]

So great to wake up to this megaton.

I think some have lost sight of what a megaton is...

 

[xiaxdragon]

I'll say it again.

The "bullshots" for Forza Horizon pretty much looked like it did in-game.



Uh... this is coming out a year after Forza 5 which was 1080p at launch using the same engines...

correct and we are dealing with completely different hardware this time around that seems to be causing developers some serious issues. Remember Forza 5 was 1080p with baked lighting, no nighttime racing, no weather. If forza horizons pulls 1080p it most likely will be missing a lot of those features again.

 

[FordGTGuy]

Most of that was because of time constraints rather than engine problems, that Take 10 guy even said that and how they had to prioritize certain things.

Plus i would bet that Horizons will be locked 30fps like the first game.

Should also be noted that the models in Forza 5 already have working headlights and lighted interiors.

correct and we are dealing with completely different hardware this time around that seems to be causing developers some serious issues. Remember Forza 5 was 1080p with baked lighting, no nighttime racing, no weather. If forza horizons pulls 1080p it most likely will be missing a lot of those features again.

Serious issues? alright...

Forza 5 was also a brand new game on a brand new console developed within two years with new engines(Also the largest racing game content-wise at the launch of a console.).

 

[fasTRapid]

No exact figures have been provided...

Hmm...

In fact, Titanfall on the Xbox 360 has made up for 71% of the game's total sales in the UK, with the Xbox One version only managing 27% of those sales and the PC version barely breaking over 1%.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Titanfall-Xbox-360-Sales-71-Xbox-One-Sales-27-UK-63428.html

 

[Dragonborn]

Most of that was because of time constraints rather than engine problems, that Take 10 guy even said that and how they had to prioritize certain things.

Plus i would bet that Horizons will be locked 30fps like the first game.

That's why MS should give them ample time, rather than push them to get one out every two years. I think T10 could do great if given enough time.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

On IGN

UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

--

I'm fully OK with that !

Sounds good to me.