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Forza Horizon 3 PC Performance Thread

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Such a waste of time with Ms support - 30 minutes to be told I should now be able to play the game. My issue was about the DLC and VIP problems on PC. So yeah thanks 'Sarah'.

Anyway I think I am a little.. no scratch it.. very worried....about Gears 4 on PC... I know it's a different team but same store..same publisher..

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Such a waste of time with Ms support - 30 minutes to be told I should now be able to play the game. My issue was about the DLC and VIP problems on PC. So yeah thanks 'Sarah'.

Anyway I think I am a little.. no scratch it.. very worried....about Gears 4 on PC... I know it's a different team but same store..same publisher..

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Your not alone, i'm hovering my cursor above the buy button on xbox store.
 
Such a waste of time with Ms support - 30 minutes to be told I should now be able to play the game. My issue was about the DLC and VIP problems on PC. So yeah thanks 'Sarah'.

Anyway I think I am a little.. no scratch it.. very worried....about Gears 4 on PC... I know it's a different team but same store..same publisher..

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What is the issue ? I was thinking of getting the ultimate edition, but I wasn't sure if it was worth it...
 
What is the issue ? I was thinking of getting the ultimate edition, but I wasn't sure if it was worth it...

the issue is that the VIP perks and DLC cars don't work on PC. Or at least, they don't for me and several other people. Turn10 and Playground are looking into the issue and trying to resolve it, but that doesn't help us for now.

edit - also, a lot of people have had trouble downloading the game from the windows store. It restarted several times for some and ate up their monthly bandwidth alotments.

I didn't have any problems personally (aside from the VIP thing) and I've been able to pause and resume downloads without an issue, unlike some people. It's kind of a crapshoot as to whether or not you'll have issues.
 
i7 6700K (stock)
Fury X (16.9.2)
16GB DDR4 (3000Mhz)

Runs like a dream so far. The ingame FPS counter shows 60-90 all the time. This is in 1440p.

Game looks so good and runs so smooth.

I haven't touched the settings myself yet, the game configured itself with everything set to high when it started.
 
Surely it doesn't matter anyway, Xbox Play Anywhere ;)

Don't have an xbox. ANd dont want one. Would rather play on my PC which is why i bought a new GPU last week.

All the people that were seriously coming to UWP defense now can't say shit, because now we have multiple releases that have been in a pretty shit affairs.

I hope to god gears of war 4 works I really do. Because if the same issues people with 1080's are having carry over or stuttering, or download issues or whatever, i think MS's PC initiative is over.
 
Don't have an xbox. ANd dont want one. Would rather play on my PC which is why i bought a new GPU last week.

All the people that were seriously coming to UWP defense now can't say shit, because now we have multiple releases that have been in a pretty shit affairs.

I hope to god gears of war 4 works I really do. Because if the same issues people with 1080's are having carry over or stuttering, or download issues or whatever, i think MS's PC initiative is over.

Ah right, I think I just misunderstood what was being said.
 
DLC and VIP working for me on PC. Even when using other accounts.

I bought the standard edition and my friend lent me his account with the ultimate one. Logged in store, clicked download, it finished after a few seconds (I had the game preloaded already) and then it just started as me (I think it uses the account on Xbox app) when I clicked the icon on the start menu. We haven't tried co-op together though.
 
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Turning off Dynamic Rendering and Switching MSAA to 8x fixed this issue for me. (The MSAA thing I did at the same time, so not sure if Dynamic Rendering alone fixed it)
 
Just upgraded to a 1080 from the 980ti, and the increased memory speed seems to have greatly reduced the stuttering. It's still there, but it's a much shorter freeze. Performance wise I'm running it at 1440p at ultra + 8x msaa, and the only time it drops below 60 is in the city where it drops to ~57
 
Turning off dvr helped, but there are still too many dips from 60fps. Ultra settings at locked 30fps will have to do I guess.

I ran into some glitches where my car would hit an invisible wall and then all the other cars would drive into and disappear into my car. Once there were a lot of them we'd all explode out.

I might wait a few more days to see if there are any patches.
 
No the pre-order bonus are for Horizon 3, the car packs mention FM6 and FH2 because they are themed after those games, as those cars appeared in them.

Cool, thanks. However, I'm still confused as to why they say Xbox One:
PURCHASE THIS OFFER BEFORE 9/27/16 AND RECEIVE 2 CAR PACKS AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE: Forza Horizon 2 Rockstar Car Pack (Xbox One) and Forza Motorsport 6 Meguiar's Car Pack (Xbox One).
Do they not work for the PC?
 
What the fuck are the VIP perks anyways? I'm so mad I can't think straight.

Edit: I guess it's the wheel spins and other bullshit.

So how are they going to compensate us for our wheel spins?

I'm pretty sure we're just going to get a "We're Sorry."
 
Cool, thanks. However, I'm still confused as to why they say Xbox One:

Do they not work for the PC?

Maybe it is because those games don't exist for PC.

I'm pretty sure those pre-order bonus are for older games.
"tarting today, you can choose from one of three versions for Forza Horizon 3, available to everyone. Note that players who purchase any digital bundle of Forza Horizon 3 on Xbox will also receive two car packs available immediately for use in previous Forza games – the Rockstar Energy Car Pack from Forza Horizon 2 and the Meguiar’s Car Pack from Forza Motorsport 6."
 
I'm experiencing really awful stuttering. If that encryption thing is true guess that explains it. :|

It's unplayable sometimes in the city.
 
woah, how did no-one on GAF got to that conclusion? Even should it turn out not to be true, it would totally make sense.

I'm fairly sure every UWP app is encrypted with EFS, including the likes of Forza Apex. It takes a lot of permissions fuckery to even try and decrypt those files so you can edit them, but Apex runs perfectly fine despite the encryption. I don't think it's a good conclusion to say that because one game has issues it must be the encryption.

However, there is always the chance that Horizon 3 is using something on top of EFS as the filenames and types are completely jumbled whereas Apex's are human-readable.
 
Maybe it is because those games don't exist for PC.

I'm pretty sure those pre-order bonus are for older games.
"tarting today, you can choose from one of three versions for Forza Horizon 3, available to everyone. Note that players who purchase any digital bundle of Forza Horizon 3 on Xbox will also receive two car packs available immediately for use in previous Forza games – the Rockstar Energy Car Pack from Forza Horizon 2 and the Meguiar’s Car Pack from Forza Motorsport 6."

Ah, OK that makes more sense based On the wording. That quote makes it much more clear. Seems there was still some confusion.

I guess I'm in no rush to pre-order as I waiting to see how the PC issues get handled.
 
woah, how did no-one on GAF got to that conclusion? Even should it turn out not to be true, it would totally make sense.

Sounds like your typical bullshit theory from a redditor who thinks just because something appears to make sense ("decryption causes high CPU usage!!") makes it true.

It would make sense. We need to get TheAdmiester in here and let him explain what he saw/did to unencrypt the files for Apex to do what he did, ha.
 
It would make sense. We need to get TheAdmiester in here and let him explain what he saw/did to unencrypt the files for Apex to do what he did, ha.

I already posted, I have no idea what I did to Apex the first time, and, after reinstalling the game, I can't break into it again.

I said in my other post that Apex being encrypted didn't affect the performance as that ran perfectly fine, but it's possible that FH3 has another "layer" of it since it has all jumbled names.
 
Did nothing but make my game run worse, but I could see it potentially working for people with faster CPUs.

It didn't do anything for me either. It is worth a try though for anyone who is having stuttering. The results vary just about as much as the general performance does.
 
I have a fix for the DLC

You have to refund your game through MS. I used their online chat.

They will refund you then you have to repurchase the game again. The refund process takes 24-48 hours, so I just repurchased on my credit card and move the money and get some cash back from the whole deal.


But yeah. The motorsport pack and VIP pack now work. But I lost out on all the double wheel spin bullshit and what have you. Pisses me off.
 
I have a fix for the DLC

You have to refund your game through MS. I used their online chat.

They will refund you then you have to repurchase the game again. The refund process takes 24-48 hours, so I just repurchased on my credit card and move the money and get some cash back from the whole deal.


Yeah, I saw that thread on reddit earlier today and apparently it really works - if you can get a support rep to actually refund you, which there is no guarantee for. So if you wait like 20mins in the chat and get declined the refund, you'll have to start over. Then the whole refund process with money back in a couple of day, rebuy in the meantime -- nah, I can't be bothered, I'll just wait for them to fix (their twitter account is acknowledging the issue constantly right now), I managed to save most of my spins and have a good car right now anyway. They ought to have fixed by yesterday, let's be honest here. Especially if current buyers aren't hit with that bug. It's a store license thing.
 
Ok, I'm usually sceptical of all these little hacks but I'm pretty sure disabling CPU0 for FH3 has helped quite significantly. I've gone to places where I was getting down to about 45fps before, now in those same areas my minimum is around 52fps.

(on a 4770K)
 
A user on Reddit has pointed to Horizon 3 using EFS (Encrypting File System) as a possible cause for high CPU usage and stutter.

/u/dkhavilo said:
The reason of those stutters is the fact that the game uses EFS which consumes a lot of CPU.
Yesterday, i've captured a usage on my CPU and GPU, and found interesting thing, when CPU has 100% a lot of stuttering appears and GPU usage lower fluctuates at 50-80%. Stutters mostly appears in a city and mostly at the fast speed, when the game loads a lot of assets simultaneously. The i've navigated to a folder where game is installed and found that game folder uses EFS, which AFAIK uses AES256 encryption. Having EFS is ok for sensible documents, not the game files, because it requires a lot of CPU to decrypt.
There's also a post on the official forums where a user has issues on a 4-core CPU, and has no issues on a 6-core one.

Edit: has already been posted here.
 
Giant Bomb quick look shows its pretty bad, game will just suddenly drop to 50fps from running fine at 70fps. In the city you see it go down to 30fps. The devs must've seen this but released it anyway. If its the god damn DRM then just please remove that shit if its locking up the game every few minutes, utter shit experience.

Close to cancelling my standard edition pre order.

Photomode fucked, heard there's no FFB on wheels. I should probably come back in a few months.
 
Been looking at some stats now. The game is hardly using any Power % on my GPU and my CPU usage is about 50% max and typically around 30-40%. Patches should fix this right up.
 
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