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[statham]

smart move by Sony? Are you fucking dumb? Are you even reading this thread?

whats with the insults, I saw lots of comments saying this was a good move.

 

[Lord Error]

Wow, 2.5GB-3.5GB is insane amount for a console OS. I just don't understand what either Sony or MS are thinking. Maybe they just realize that much memory makes sense with the overall capability of other components, and that's about it :\

 

[Plinko]

Ouch. 3.5 GB for the OS? Seems like overkill. I'd much rather have game be able to use more of that and have the OS have less features.

 

[Orca]

The Witness using 5GB RAM so far
so this guy is lying?

Actually he says 'wants' to use.

 

[Projectjustice]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

I'm running out of reasons for how XBO and Ps4 are different outside of 100 dollars.

PC looks better and better.

Uh... Games.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Guys, smokey wasn't pulling a strawman. That's just how he signs his posts.

gaf

The sign off isn't the strawman part.

Reactions to this news have largely been (justified imo) negativity or skepticism. People presumably don't take kindly to unwarranted accusations of hypocrisy.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

So that's why drive club, knack and watch dogs look and perform the way they do.

Lol

 

[DrM]

We need Cboat here

 

[iNvid02]

what if sony are bringing otherOS back. each PS4 could come with ubuntu pre installed and running continuously in the background using a measly 3.5GB of RAM.

surprise gamescom reveal

 

[Bomb-Threat]

Well, Eurogamer certainly got the clicks.

Yeah, MS/PC fans are obsessed with the Intranet!!

Oh, and hating on Sony, LOL

 

[prwxv3]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

Holy shit

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

If they need all this RAM to keep the system running snappy, I'm happy.

 

[solarus]

I'll ask you a simple question. After multitasking, quick resume, sleep, background downloading and installing, recording, cross game chat, notifications and etc. What more would you want out of an OS.

This is fucking dumb, I am no developer or designer. Many features we take for granted now people could simply not have asked for/thought of before hand, this applies for everythjng not just this dumb argument you are posing for the PS4 os. Before the iphone you could have posed the same question to people "what more could you want out of a phone" and they would not think of "no keys just a single capactive screen and touch os with a home button". How do you expect me to come up with whatever features the OS may implement in the future. Why did I even bother answering this.

 

[Nightengale]

Find this hard to believe, taking Vita into consideration.

PS4's features is basically just everything Vita is already doing, at a larger screen, with 15 minutes video recording.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

Herp.

 

[Nafai1123]

Is the PS4 using 3 separate OS's as well? I seriously can't fucking imagine 3gigs being required for anything else.

 

[NBtoaster]

Did you even read the title of this thread? OR the OP?

Even the title says 5.5GB

Goddamn reading comprehension

4.5GB guaranteed. Non-trivial effort to get 5.5GB. As it says in the OP.

 

[IHaveCandy]

So where do we stand on this being true? I think it is pretty stupid if it stays like this long-term. The goal better be to free up a GB or 2 of that RAM later if this is true.

 

[trmas]

I think Sony is just being cautious for now, until they figure out exactly what they have to work with. This should be an entertaining thread though.

 

[Dante316]

People need to calm down. The memory is enough for awesome detailed games. Compared to the ps3, this is a godsend.

 

[Drek]

The concerning thing is that getting the flexible RAM is "isn't trivial". That may be what complicates ports between X1 and PS4.

Which directly conflicts with everything Cerny and developers have said about memory use on the PS4. In fact, making memory access easy and painless was explicitly why Sony chose to forego and embedded RAM for the PS4.

 

[sangreal]

Did you even read the title of this thread? OR the OP?

Even the title says 5.5GB

Goddamn reading comprehension

Maybe you should read beyond the title. Start with the first sentence of the OP

 

[LiquidMetal14]

PlayStation 4 is also capable of similar feats, perhaps in a manner more closely resembling that of PS Vita - the game is paused, apps are switched over seamlessly and, once exited, gameplay continues without having to restart the code. The convenience and functionality is undeniable


This is awesome stuff if done correctly. I completely approve...

The thing is, PS4 is a stepping stone coming from Vita. THey are preaching to the converted and are just fluffing up their piece. With 8GB of memory, both Xbone and PS4 will have a lot of room for good OS functions on top of games.

Just like Vita' 512mb working alongside the 128mb of OS.

More ram for games the better. I could give 2 fucks less about any OS feature that would take god damn 3.5 gigs of ram. The PS4 OS has to be the worst since windows ME. The PS4 is under powered but at least the ram made it worth 399.99. But no ram no buy at 399.99. I have been gaming for a long time and this up coming generation looks to be by far the worst.

You're wrong and I can't say much more than that.

 

[rdrr gnr]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

This is like your exact post from the other thread. Are you a parody account?

 

[Iced_Eagle]

PS4 already has multi-tasking.

Since when?

I'm talking about MS' snap feature, IE 2 appsgames on screen at once.

The PS4 has fast task switching, but I've never seen it do multi tasking.

 

[Future PhaZe]

 

[iceatcs]

Ah boom, it was all came from Digital Foundry, not eurogamer. That's quite lot different.

 

[NemesisPrime]

what if sony are bringing otherOS back. each PS4 could come with ubuntu pre installed and running continuously in the background using a measly 3.5GB of RAM.

surprise gamescom reveal

And this would cool why?

 

[Mlatador]

I'm pretty underwhelmed by all this "drama". 4 or 5 GB of Ram is still a huge amount for a console.

 

[BigDug13]

Hahaha if this is true, MS comes out with the death strike. Removes mandatory Kinect and charges $299.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

How can Sony 1UP MS when they were first? Dude.. Go to bed. Sleep

 

[MormaPope]

So it's settled: I'll be sacrificing 2.5 rams on the Sony HQ lawn TONIGHT!

 

[The Last Wizard]

Nope, he owes you 1/50th of a PS4

Is it to late to get in on this? I want 1/50 of a ps4

 

[Raymo]

Actually he says 'wants' to use.

Read the last tweet.

 

[DeadlyVirus]

Rest is reserved by the OS. 1GB of "flexible memory", whatever that means.




http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-system-software-memory

Source seems to be KZ:SF slides?

Digital Foundry, the same source that claimed that it was absolutley sure that the DVR was limited to 7min.

 

[Mokubba]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

lol

When did they report 1GB?

 

[Odrion]

Indeed. It boggles my mind how Sony's 'gaming console' could demand such RAM. And here I thought 1GB would have been more than enough for the OS itself.

For a modern console OS I was expecting 2 gigs.

1 gig sounds like it's not enough for the features already presented to us while still being snappy.

 

[solarus]

I'm pretty underwhelmed by all this "drama". 4 or 5 GB of Ram is still a huge amount for a console.

Exactly, look what we were able to do with 512mb this gen, we have at least ten times that available this time.

 

[Can Crusher]

I bet it's true. Sony seemed to be pretty damn quick on the trigger before with other "misinformation".

Oh man, so much for transparency and clear messages if so.

Exactly, look what we were able to do with 512mb this gen, we have at least ten times that available this time.

Hey might as well just go Nintendo's route when you start thinking like that.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Did you even read the title of this thread? OR the OP?

Even the title says 5.5GB

Goddamn reading comprehension

Under "special circuminstances". To be honest, I'd bank on more games having 4.5GBs of RAM instead of 5.5GBs, depending on what the special circuminstance is. I'm totally guessing an OS feature has to be disabled, and the share button makes the most sense. I'll be honest and say, if sharing has to be disabled for games to use 5.5GBs, it's no deal. I'll take sharing plus 4.5GBs.

 

[iNvid02]

And this would cool why?

remote play with ubuntu edge

 

[meppi]

How can Sony 1UP MS when they were first? Dude.. Go to bed. Sleep

All part of their evil master plan!

Thread was worth it....

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Evolved1]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

Thread was worth it....

 

[DragonSworne]

Just that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about and swallowed a ton of techno-babble hook, line, and sinker. None of the numbers he used made sense relative to known specs, and the techniques he referred to aren't some magic tricks only viable on XB1.

Kind of like this article, where he's clearly using the old KZ slides to make his argument, even though he's claiming his info comes from a "post memory bump SDK".

What you need to assume in order to believe this article are the following things:
1. That Leadbetter actually has a clue this time (dubious).
2. That Jon Blow and company, a self confessed small little team doing very little memory optimization, have somehow already tapped into over half of this "extra" memory pool for The Witness.
3. That Sony is spending ~$40-$50 more per unit for almost nothing but OS memory footprint.
4. That Sony has completely rebuilt their OS within the last few months to go from a 512MB OS to a 3.5GB OS.
5. That Adam Boyes was full of shit when he said they met developer demands for 8GB (this demand confirmed by noted self promoter Randy Pitchford, who likely has seen final SDK docs).

So yeah. We'll see what the actual number is, but the likelihood that Eurogamer of all publications are 100% right is pretty damn slim.

Great summary.

Too many people are willing to accept any bad news toward Sony without actually thinking how logical the news is.

I find the credibility of this arcticle in doubt.

 

[Yado]

I don't see why this would change much for people who intend to buy a PS4. Do the games we've seen suddenly look worse now that we know they're using less RAM?

 

[androvsky]

Which directly conflicts with everything Cerny and developers have said about memory use on the PS4. In fact, making memory access easy and painless was explicitly why Sony chose to forego and embedded RAM for the PS4.

Exactly... are we sure someone didn't swap in a page from Microsoft's SDK?

 

[Wynnebeck]

I called it! I knew 1GB was utter bullshit when they first reported that. Everything Sony has been doing has been nothing but PR stunts just to 1up MS this year. Nothing but Knee Jerk reactions. Eventually the truth was bound to surface.

lol The Wall of Shame is going to have some choice quotes tonight.

 

[Live Free or Die]

All this drama base on a rumor. Must be a slow news day.

 

[la flama blanca]

Since when?

I'm talking about MS' snap feature, IE 2 appsgames on screen at once.

The PS4 has fast task switching, but I've never seen it do multi tasking.

Correct, it's a feature exclusive to the XBOX ONE.