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luckily star citizen is trying to do most of those things so we have a masterpiece in the works
but i can't wait to see 5/10 starfield and 4/10 horizon forbidden west next year.
Star Citizen, haven't heard about it in a minute......The problem with games like SC and Cyberpunk is that the developers hype the mechanics so much, even the visuals, then you get awful performance, and people say it's ahead of it's time, but people are only going to put up with a game pushing technical boundaries if the main game is excellent or novel.......We all loved SOTC because it did gameplay and graphics and animation we never saw before, it was not a bugfest, we all played Crysis on our GTX 6800's and the perf was low, but boy were the physics and powers awesome......Yet there were games which were genre defining and great technically with great performance like Doom 2003 and Doom 2016 and of course Halflife 2......Let's not pretend for a moment that your game needs to be a buggy broken disjointed offering to be pushing boundaries.......

A well polished game is important, the industry needs to move away from broken launch games, where people like to say "it will be patched".....If you pay $60, you deserve a competent product and there's no questions about it.....Having a product crash a million fold, textures not drawing in, fps down to 4fps on console, 1 minute long hangs, hitching galore does not deserve any type of defense attorney on forums in lieu of CD PROJECT RED.....
Cyberpunk 2077 has a lot of flaws I won't deny that. But seeing Cyberpunk 2077 with a lower score on open critic than a boring ass game like AC: Valhalla, which is basically just AC:Origins reskinned for the 3rd time, is the worst joke I've seen in a long fucking time.
I think this is indeed subjective.....Is Cyberpunk categorically a better game than AC Valhalla or Origins? Ubisoft may have had some buggy games in the past, but they have had some really nice games that work and play well with great graphics too.......And they always try to push some level of NPC count, world setting or something a bit different each time......In 2013, Black Flag was a very polished product, their formula works even if you feel it's samey at this point. People rail on them, but Unity was their buggiest and lowest performing games for reasons, but no one can deny Unity was an awesome looking game at the time.....It's art and some of it's technical prowess even cyberpunk can't match.....

I think Unity was a bigger showcase for PC at the time than Cyberpunk is now and that's if we include interactivity, scale+verticality, npc's, lighting, art etc...
 

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Not really no. Some performance issues but that’s it. Nothing like Cyberpunk. Witcher 3 Switch version has better performance than Cyberpunk and probably higher NPCs.


At least on XB1. Other versions seem acceptable from what I can tell.
 

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Star Citizen, haven't heard about it in a minute......The problem with games like SC and Cyberpunk is that the developers hype the mechanics so much, even the visuals, then you get awful performance, and people say it's ahead of it's time, but people are only going to put up with a game pushing technical boundaries if the main game is excellent or novel.......

to be honest cdpr hyped the game a lot but they never really hyped the mechanics of the open world. they mentioned the crowd system in the 2018 vertical slice and almost never again. of course they had ads with keanu or trailers saying in night city you can do everything the most immersive city ever but those are just ads. it's not like they had a night city wire episode talking about how deep their crime system is or how the npcs had a work/life cycle. the developers always focused on the rpg aspects of the game on interviews.

my point with star citizen wasn't that the game is really going to be a masterpiece. my point was that when you try to do everything you never finish the game. you have to compromise and focus your resources on something. cdpr focused on the narrative aspects of the main and side quests. storytelling. the way you have conversations or the production values of the quests themselves. they could have made the random npcs better but they didn't prioritize that. the witcher 3 was the same and no one cared. maybe they'll do now with all the complaints though.
 

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Full disclosure I haven't played CP2077 yet, but witcher 3 on launch ps4 had horrible frame-rate and I personally ran into many bugs with the ui, option settings, NPCs, quests, physics, ai, etc. Not uncommon for an open world game and it doesn't stop people from playing it, but that is the reality.
I played at release. And with the exceptions of few dropped frames, it seemed fine
 

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Nah OP, if people had crazy expectations about the game it's because CDPR hyped the fuck out of it.

Now we got a game with 0 AI for drivers, npcs, and the police, which just fucking teleports behind you. Lazy af.
No they did not.

Gamers hyped the fuck out of it. For example; the 'pre-order' thread started on this website a year ago, talking about how good it is a pre-order a digital copy of a game they haven't even seen yet.

Not picking on you in particular, but all i've seen over cyberpunk is how it's everyone elses fault. Wahh cdpr delayed the game, wahh cdpr released a broken game, wahh this game didn't live up to my un-live-uppable standards.

It's time people took some personal goddamned responsibility.
 

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to be honest cdpr hyped the game a lot but they never really hyped the mechanics of the open world. they mentioned the crowd system in the 2018 vertical slice and almost never again. of course they had ads with keanu or trailers saying in night city you can do everything the most immersive city ever but those are just ads. it's not like they had a night city wire episode talking about how deep their crime system is or how the npcs had a work/life cycle. the developers always focused on the rpg aspects of the game on interviews.

my point with star citizen wasn't that the game is really going to be a masterpiece. my point was that when you try to do everything you never finish the game. you have to compromise and focus your resources on something. cdpr focused on the narrative aspects of the main and side quests. storytelling. the way you have conversations or the production values of the quests themselves. they could have made the random npcs better but they didn't prioritize that. the witcher 3 was the same and no one cared. maybe they'll do now with all the complaints though.
Yet I'm sure there are ways Witcher Excelled over Cyberpunk, maybe even the setting, maybe the side missions in Witcher was better, maybe the characters in Witcher was better and more gripping....Maybe people prefer riding roach than doing the janky driving in Cyberpunk.

The thing about Cyberpunk is, it was curated to be the hype machine that it is, well done by CDPR....."Behind closed doors"...The media came out "unicorn struck" and spoke of Cyberpunk's graphics and world, the density, the interactions as being so next gen that you thought this was going to dethrone Zelda, LOU2, GTA, MGS, GOW etc.. from their critical heights. Instead, many things CDPR promised during the road to release which comprised several delays mind you was cut back, the depth they promised and mostly touted by the media who saw the game in obscurity did not pan out.....We all knew the media was FOS, when after all their praise of the visuals we first saw the game in the publicly released demo........Hype is CDPR's primary tool here, but also it chief adversary...They concentrated more on marketing and sales than the game itself or at least working hard to deliver what was promised and hyped.....And never forget, this game was first promised to XBONE/PS4 gamers.....And what did they get, the biggest scam of their money all gen....
 

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This has to be satire. Cyberpunk is one of the buggiest triple A releases of all time. It runs at 15fps on consoles, and causes frequent crashes. Also struggles to maintain 60fps even on powerful gaming PCs. The AI is PS2 level. It deserves to be scored based on it's performance.
 

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if you don't know the difference between an ad and actual articles talking about gameplay mechanics i don't know what to tell you.
if a narrator says we created the most immersive city in gaming and you create your own meaning of that it's not their problem. it's not a lie either. it's an ad. every developer says their game is the best game in the world in an ad and show things in cgi trailers that never happen.
had joel helping ellie in her journey
 
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It's inexcusable to release such a poor performing game on the last gen consoles. Even Switch ports have higher performance standards.

Stop giving them excuses "wHaT dId YoU eXpEcT oN 7 yR CoNsOlEs", that's not even the point.
 
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if you don't know the difference between an ad and actual articles talking about gameplay mechanics i don't know what to tell you.
if a narrator says we created the most immersive city in gaming and you create your own meaning of that it's not their problem. it's not a lie either. it's an ad. every developer says their game is the best game in the world in an ad and show things in cgi trailers that never happen.

Are you being serious right now lmao?

"Oh you took our intentionaly misleading ad seriously? Ooops not our fault! Tehe!"
 
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It's inexcusable to release such a poor performing game on the last gen consoles. Even Switch ports have higher performance standards.

Stop giving them excuses "wHaT dId YoU eXpEcT oN 7 yR CoNsOlEs", that's not even the point.

i don't know who you are talking to but in the OP i clearly state performance and bugs aside.

people are onboard the hate train because the game was released in a horrible state and they start nitpicking things they never criticize in any other game. that's my point. people say the random npcs AI is bad when it's literally the same AI in the witcher 3 and i've never seen anyone mentioning that years ago.

Are you being serious right now lmao?

"Oh you took our intentionaly misleading ad seriously? Ooops not our fault! Tehe!"

ads are misleading. that's why they are ads... actually they are not misleading. they are just so open to interpretation that they don't mean anything. they exist just to sell a product. or do you really think that if you use AXE women are going to line up to fuck you?
 
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i don't know who you are talking two but in the OP i clearly state performance and bugs aside.

people are onboard the hate train because the game was released in a horrible state and they start nitpicking things they never criticize in any other game. that's my point. people say the random npcs AI is bad when it's literally the same AI in the witcher 3 and i've never seen anyone mentioning that years ago.

ads are misleading. that's why they are ads... actually they are not misleading. they are just so open to interpretation that they don't mean anything. they exist just to sell a product. or do you really think that if you use AXE women are going to line up to fuck you?

Good lord. Are you part of their marketing team or something? I've never seen someone defend such clear bs as adamently as you

It's called the smoke and mirrors tactic, and they made full use of it knowing the medicore game they made. I may not have a alot of integrity in these sony pumped veins of mine, but I have enough to never defend such practices.

Also If the next generation of open world games consists of cops magically spawning in the same room as you everytime you commit a crime then believe me I aint playing any of those games
 
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Seems like CDPR and gamers hyped Cyberpunk to the clouds and that’s why the expectations were so immensely and ridiculously high. People were expecting the world from it.

Everyone ripped less hyped games apart such as WWE2K20, Anthem, Fallout 76, Avengers, Mass Effect: Andromeda and Remothered: BP as well, so the much hyped Cyberpunk will of course receive some harsh criticism from the community as well.
 
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Good lord. Are you part of their marketing team or something? I've never seen someone defend such clear bs as adamently as you

It's called the smoke and mirrors tactic, and they made full use of it knowing the medicore game they made. I may not have a aot of integrity but I have enough to never defend such practices.

Also If the next generation of open world games consists of cops magically spawning in the same room as you everytime you commit a crime then believe me I aint playing any of those games

sure i am indeed part of the marketing team. i have 3 yellow chairs too.
what about you? is someone paying you for hating a game?

it's fine you don't have to play it. play gta and have fun. however i don't call rockstar games mediocre because they don't have handcrafted main and side content even 1/10 as good as cdpr.
you can say the crime system is mediocre though. it exists just to prevent you from murdering the entire city basically.
 
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sure i am indeed part of the marketing team. i have 3 yellow chairs too.
what about you? is someone paying you for hating a game?

it's fine you don't have to play it. play gta and have fun. however i don't call rockstar games mediocre because they don't have handcrafted main and side content even 1/10 as good as cdpr.
you can say the crime system is mediocre though. it exists just to prevent you from murdering the entire city basically.

Bought the game twice. Gotten over 40 hours on it. Should I not be able to critise a game i've already played and beaten?

The solution to these medicore games is to raise awarenss, and oh boy have they been made aware

You'll thank us when they fix their shit for the next time.

People should be speaking up more about Rockstars garbage linear mission design too.
 
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Bought the game twice. Gotten over 40 hours on it. Should I not be able to critise a game i've already played and beaten?

The solution to these medicore games is to raise awarenss, and oh boy have they been made aware

You'll thank us when they fix their shit for the next time.

People should be speaking up more about Rockstars garbage linear mission design too.

i guess you love mediocre games then or you are a masochist
 

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Cyberpunk can be Game of the Generation just like The Witcher 3. Kinda unfair to compare and judge other games by its standards :p

CDPR will be fine, Cyberpunk will continue, people will buy and play it regardless.

So eh, if No Man Sky survived and received a cult following then Cyberpunk has nothing to worry about.
 
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i guess you love mediocre games then or you are a masochist

I can enjoy medicore things if they excel in other areas like the writing and characters.

In Cyberpunk's case I just had to stop myself from trying to interact and roleplay in the world and just stick to the on-rails experience. The gameplay is thankfully serviceable so I could do that
 
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I can enjoy medicore things if they excel in other areas like the writing and characters.

In Cyberpunk's case I just had to stop myself from trying to interact and roleplay in the world and just stick to the on-rails experience. The gameplay is thankfully serviceable so I could do that
This is a fair approach. Even though the game looks like another open world, shoot stuff game, when I eventually play it next year, I'll treat it as an RPG and try to get immersed in the environment.
 

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Cyberpunk can be Game of the Generation just like The Witcher 3. Kinda unfair to compare and judge other games by its standards :p

CDPR will be fine, Cyberpunk will continue, people will buy and play it regardless.

So eh, if No Man Sky survived and received a cult following then Cyberpunk has nothing to worry about.

They should worry about people refunding first.
 
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I don't get this whole "Witcher 3 was unplayable at launch" thing. I got it day one and enjoyed tf out of the game. My biggest complaint was combat and some slowdown. Nothing gamebreaking.
They are trying to rewrite history to make CP2077 look 'not so bad'.
 
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I wonder into how much shit CDPR would be right now if next gen consoles werent announced/released before the game's launch

Their current situation is bad, but holy shit it would have been a catastrophe
 
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Nah OP, if people had crazy expectations about the game it's because CDPR hyped the fuck out of it.

Now we got a game with 0 AI for drivers, npcs, and the police, which just fucking teleports behind you. Lazy af.


ikr

Be like "you gamerz was hyping it up"

.....also them

 
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Full disclosure I haven't played CP2077 yet, but witcher 3 on launch ps4 had horrible frame-rate and I personally ran into many bugs with the ui, option settings, NPCs, quests, physics, ai, etc. Not uncommon for an open world game and it doesn't stop people from playing it, but that is the reality.
If you think witcher 3 was horrible, don't play cyberpunk on console then. All the problems witcher had are multiplied by ten in cyberpunk.
 
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Cyberpunk 2077 has a lot of flaws I won't deny that. But seeing Cyberpunk 2077 with a lower score on open critic than a boring ass game like AC: Valhalla, which is basically just AC:Origins reskinned

Disagreed greatly. I bought CP2077 instead of AC Valhalla mind you, but this isn't about what the fuck you think is "boring" or not or a "reskin". The fucking game works, they don't have much performance issues and they are not out here issuing refunds and apologizing for LYING TO THEIR FUCKING FANS!

CP2077 deserves all the low scores and hate. They are the ones that lied, removed features and spent almost 8 years to make a shell of a game that barely can meet fucking 2001 standards of AI


AC Valhalla while you might feel is "boring" doesn't also have those issues. So I'm not shocked that AC has a higher score, the thing they marketed actually fucking IS what they released and it works, regardless if you or I even think its fun, boring etc. I didn't even buy AC, I bought CP2077 instead btw, but I don't disagree with the majority of major release this year having higher scores then this game. Most games also didn't release like fucking slides shows, crashing and having cops teleport out thin air with N64 looking graphics and matrix slow down any time a NPC even coughs.

N30RYU N30RYU "what do you have to say about the AI?" They not trying to have that conversation right now. Reddit absolutely fucking destroyed this game talking about its horrid AI
 
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Disagreed greatly. I bought CP2077 instead of AC Valhalla mind you, but this isn't about what the fuck you think is "boring" or not or a "reskin". The fucking game works, they don't have much performance issues and they are not out here issuing refunds and apologizing for LYING TO THEIR FUCKING FANS!

CP2077 deserves all the low scores and hate. They are the ones that lied, removed features and spent almost 8 years to make a shell of a game that barely can meet fucking 2001 standards of AI


AC Valhalla while you might feel is "boring" doesn't also have those issues. So I'm not shocked that AC has a higher score, the thing they marketed actually fucking IS what they released and it works, regardless if you or I even think its fun, boring etc. I didn't even buy AC, I bought CP2077 instead btw, but I don't disagree with the majority of major release this year having higher scores then this game. Most games also didn't release like fucking slides shows, crashing and having cops teleport out thin air with N64 looking graphics and matrix slow down any time a NPC even coughs.

N30RYU N30RYU "what do you have to say about the AI?" They not trying to have that conversation right now. Reddit absolutely fucking destroyed this game talking about its horrid AI

One of the lead guys behind AC Valhalla had to delete a tweet where he claimed the game would have less filler content/be shorter than Odyssey which people felt was too bloated. I don't even follow the AC games closely and even I know about that one. They all lie and praising an annual reskin because it isn't a total glitchfest is a weird standard, I'm sure if Cyberpunk had an annual entry the next one would run a bit better, there'd be a base to work off of. I think it's a shame the open world elements are buggy/with bad AI but while I can meet you guys halfway on that aspect being bad I don't see why you can't meet us halfway on the fact that if we enjoy the game for the main and side quests where the AI isn't terrible and it excels in its RPG elements like customization and multiple approaches to problems as well as characters/dialogue then there's no discussion to be had is there? You guys are just too extreme on this, most of us didn't buy this for another GTA, I didn't even know the police were that bad until I tested it because of this forum, I wasn't going around trying to goof off like I do in GTA, I was focused on the narrative and the open world just felt like immersion, testing the police broke some of that immersion but had I not been posting here I'd be a happier gamer because it isn't the shit I bother with when playing a game so I may have never even noticed.

Should they feel the wrath of the average gamer for bad ports, bugs and broken open world elements? Sure, but it definitely is weird that the result is Metacritic rewarding much safer games with core experiences that don't touch Cyberpunk's core experience and for some of us it's all about that core experience, not goofing off.
 
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Reading post-mortem on this game a few years from now is going to be something. It's one thing to ignore last-gen consoles when it comes to optimization, it's another thing to have terrible AI and world that apart from the visual layer feels very barren and not interactive.

I never understood the obsession with graphics - make them nice, 8/10 and push in other direction. I can imagine if the game had Witcher 3 graphics + RT + AI taken from F.E.A.R. + smaller but much more interactive world it would have blown people away.

Today people remember Witcher 3 mainly because of the quality of its writing, not graphics, combat, etc. Coming after W3 Cyberpunk 2077 would have sold no matter what, which is even more bizarre that I do not see what exactly they wanted to achieve with this game apart from 'Witcher 3, but with guns'.
 
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EDMIX EDMIX not even fully responding to me, I'm not defending the NPC AI or the police AI. If you want to keep screeching about that there's other people who love hearing that.
 

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Reading post-mortem on this game a few years from now is going to be something. It's one thing to ignore last-gen consoles when it comes to optimization, it's another thing to have terrible AI and world that apart from the visual layer feels very barren and not interactive.

I never understood the obsession with graphics - make them nice, 8/10 and push in other direction. I can imagine if the game had Witcher 3 graphics + RT + AI taken from F.E.A.R. + smaller but much more interactive world it would have blown people away.

This.

I don't ask for much with games, shit I buy lots of games even if I know I'll only buy it for certain reasons so I would have never had an issue if the game looked dated if it just actually had modern features one expects in a open world title, like AI that actually understand you exist. Look at Hitman, not the best looking game on earth, but its concept comes before anything else, those massive NPC crowds really suck you into the world. It sounds like this games main focus was trying to look good, Keanu Reeves, pump money into marketing and making an actual game came last or something.

E Explosive Zombie Thats a great story man. AC doesn't fucking have those issues and doesn't have something so dated its barely meeting GTAIII AI or something. A very good reason why that score of CP2077 is so low vs AC Valhalla. AC hits the majority of modern features expected in those type of open world games and clearly is functional, so not much to really say about it, for better or worse, but ultimately at least the fucking people that want that game for what it is, can actually play what was promised vs “we’d appreciate it if you gave us a chance” or "see you next year when we are done with the game".

So it sounds like you simply don't want to have the conversation about this games fucking broken dated AI.


 
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This.

I don't ask for much with games, shit I buy lots of games even if I know I'll only buy it for certain reasons so I would have never had an issue if the game looked dated if it just actually had modern features one expects in a open world title, like AI that actually understand you exist. Look at Hitman, not the best looking game on earth, but its concept comes before anything else, those massive NPC crowds really suck you into the world. It sounds like this games main focus was trying to look good, Keanu Reeves, pump money into marketing and making an actual game came last or something.

The actual game is in the actual quests, not doing random shit with the NPC crowds. There's an absurd number of opportunities for you to experience what the game is about, the map is littered with them marked down. You're stuck on the extra stuff and not engaging with the meat of the game.
 
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The actual game is in the actual quests, not doing random shit with the NPC crowds. There's an absurd number of opportunities for you to experience what the game is about, the map is littered with them marked down. You're stuck on the extra stuff and not engaging with the meat of the game.

I see....so now the game isn't the NPCs found in the game, but something else entirely. Ummmm ok. Sure.. Have fun with that logic. By the time you are done its going to be "The actual real, real...REALLLLL game is the story, not that shit gameplay" - CDPR fan logic.
 
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I see....so now the game isn't the NPCs found in the game, but something else entirely. Ummmm ok. Sure.. Have fun with that logic. By the time you are done its going to be "The actual real, real...REALLLLL game is the story, not that shit gameplay" - CDPR fan logic.

WTF are you on about? Obviously the main meat of the game is the quests, and not just main questline, side quests will net you a better experience as well. Are you even playing this game? Are you at all aware of how deep the customization/RPG elements are? How good the characters and dialogue are? How it has shooter combat that is top of its class for an RPG? This isn't a GTA game where you can just wander around causing havoc and have fun, the open world is for immersion. You talk about meeting a game for what it is but clearly aren't doing that with this game.
 
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of course they had ads with keanu or trailers saying in night city you can do everything the most immersive city ever but those are just ads.

Are you serious? Is the marketing not to actually MARKET what the game is about and what can be done in the game? So.....you'd say those ads are.......false maybe? deceitful or? duplicite? Now suddenly when they say the game is about something, that was not true and you for sure REALLY know what they mean and we are not to listen to CDPR when they tell us about such things, but listen to Harmny alone or?

E Explosive Zombie "the open world is for immersion"

Not sure how that can be done in this title with braindead AI. The AI is very immersion breaking. So...have fun with that. They can do no wrong apparently and this game wasn't made for fun, how dare we expect its world to make logical sense like tires going flat when you shoot them.
 
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E Explosive Zombie Yet we don't have any round the clock stories about Sony and MS issue massive refund for AC Valhalla. Funny.


The AI in CP2077 is completely nothing like they claimed.


This is shocking. NPCs just spawning in your view, stopping movement forever if blocked and repeating the same routine is immersion breaking for sure, and things I saw in GTA3 for example, 3 generations ago on the PS2!!

Can't believe this game hasnt advanced much at all in this regard. Mind you this hints at the devs being shackled by old gen, having to create AI using netbook CPUs.

Cant wait for first next gen only title to really push NPC AI/ behaviour into the new gen.
 

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WTF are you on about? Obviously the main meat of the game is the quests, and not just main questline, side quests will net you a better experience as well. Are you even playing this game? Are you at all aware of how deep the customization/RPG elements are? How good the characters and dialogue are? How it has shooter combat that is top of its class for an RPG? This isn't a GTA game where you can just wander around causing havoc and have fun, the open world is for immersion. You talk about meeting a game for what it is but clearly aren't doing that with this game.

You can argue that all the bugs, glitches and AI behavior breaks the immersion. I agree the strength of any RPG should be in its writing. Didn't get super far into the game (4-5 hours), so if you are saying the quests deliver that's great to hear. At the same time if that's the case why not make the scope a little bit smaller? Go for a little more interaction, verticality, etc.
 
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The AI in CP2077 is completely nothing like they claimed.

Jesus, so much effort to prove... what exactly? They clearly ran out of time, and there's plenty of indications that that is the case, with a lot of other stuff getting cut at the last minute or wrapped up and finished as is. It isn't CDPR being "shit at AI" like Reddit seems to believe. Management decided to ship the game and the team had to crunch to throw something together for the systems that weren't properly implemented yet.
Not that it really matters, CDPR will fix the game and people will forget this whole controversy happened when Cyberpunk Online rolls around..
 

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Are you serious? Is the marketing not to actually MARKET what the game is about and what can be done in the game? So.....you'd say those ads are.......false maybe? deceitful or? duplicite? Now suddenly when they say the game is about something, that was not true and you for sure REALLY know what they mean and we are not to listen to CDPR when they tell us about such things, but listen to Harmny alone or?

E Explosive Zombie "the open world is for immersion"

Not sure how that can be done in this title with braindead AI. The AI is very immersion breaking. So...have fun with that. They can do no wrong apparently and this game wasn't made for fun, how dare we expect its world to make logical sense like tires going flat when you shoot them.

THE AI IS BAD THE AI IS BRAINDEAD THE AI IS THE WORST THING I'VE SEEN IN A GAME THE AI IS 20 YEARS OLD

there. i saved you ten posts. now tell me about the rest of the game. not about the random npc's ai that clearly aren't the focus of the game because you are supposed to do main/side quests and gigs instead of killing civilians.

as i said this is not GTA. it would've been nice if they had time or resources to add those things but they clearly didn't. same thing with la noire. horizon zero dawn. mass effect or dragonage or AC. in most games you can't even kill civilians at all how do those worlds make logical sense? even in the witcher you couldn't.

if cyberpunk didn't let you kill civilians we would have 10 threads saying HOW COME I CAN'T KILL CIVILIANS? yet valhalla doesn't even have a crime system and you are a viking. if you kill 3 civilians boom desync. but nobody complains about that. how come i can't rape whoever i want? 3/10

it's funny that you complain about those things with a MGSV thumbnail a game people had the same criticism. why is it open world i can't do shit the world is empty and dead. well because its not GTA
 
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Cyberpunk 2077 has a lot of flaws I won't deny that. But seeing Cyberpunk 2077 with a lower score on open critic than a boring ass game like AC: Valhalla, which is basically just AC:Origins reskinned for the 3rd time, is the worst joke I've seen in a long fucking time.

Well, that happen because AC Valhalla is running on the hardware was released, the other game doesn't.
 
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