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GAF'S ultimate $500/£400/$650 CAD budget gaming rigs + bonus high end configs!

****Please take time to read through all of this post, you will find a lot of helpful general PC gaming and building advice linked or explained towards the bottom of this post. This includes benchmarks that help demonstrate what these machines are capable of.***


As some of you might know I spend most of my time here, helping out fellow GAFers with their PC hardware problems and queries. Well as many of you may not be aware there's been a seismic shift in the PC hardware market in the last year (particularly on the GPU side) with hardware prices falling through the floor whilst performance continues its march forward.

The incredible position we're in now, with gaming grade PC hardware at the lowest its ever been means that, possibly for the first time ever, $500/£400/$650CAD can buy you a gaming class rig that will run every game (yes, including Crysis) at high or max settings at 1680x1050 with very good framerates, quite often in the 60fps range. As such, I've put together configs for UK, US and Canadian GAFers that I feel use the absolute best value components on the market, each and every component is from a highly regarded manufacturer and is chosen for the great value they offer. These configs are at the absolute peak of the "price:performance" curve as far as PC gamers should be concerned, not a single penny is wasted.


Whilst these configs will play many games at 1080p just fine, the GPUs chosen weren't built for extreme high resolution play, so instead I've offered some suggested upgrades for players that would prefer to play their games at a native 1080p resolution. This is all in the spirit of offering you the best performance for your money afterall, and making the suggested changes ensures that you stay at the peak of that price:performance curve even though you're playing at 1080p. The GPU upgrades suggested are a great place to spend any extra cash, I highly recommend them, but these rigs are great even without them.

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High end rig post said:
#387
The $500 GAF gaming rig really is an excellent buy for any budget gamer, it'll do precisely what its advertised for, and that's deliver a great gaming experience in every game at mainstream resolutions. Quite a lot of people were asking where to spend a little extra cash, and I'm a firm believer that you should aim to create a balanced rig so tacking on parts to the $500 build (outside of the 1080p gamer upgrade) may not be the best idea.

However, if you've got a little more money to play with, you can definitely make some very interesting upgrades, and as such I've specified a range of rigs that I feel hits the next "sweet spot" of price and performance.

It is important to note that any money spent past this point will throw the idea of getting a good "bang for your buck" gamer rig out of the window
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OS and Windows 7 section


Windows 7 RC is free to use for another 9 months and is fully featured, it is highly recommended to GAFers putting together a new build at this moment in time.

For a limited time you can preorder Windows 7 at half price, which can bring it down to as little as $49. Details here, this is strictly time limited so I encourage anyone looking to upgrade to Windows 7 to snap up this great offer.

Students:


You may be able to get a free copy of Windows (and other Microsoft software) see Firestorm's post for details. Linky.

If you do not qualify for a free copy you can still get hold of Windows for a cut down price at the Ultimate Steal. Currently £41 for Vista Ultimate in the UK and $65 for Vista Ultimate in the US. Its expected that this offer will encompass Windows 7 shortly after release.


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ME said:
US GAF's ULTIMATE $550 GAMING RIG.

[Motherboard (MSI 770 DDR3) + Processor (Phenom ii X3 720) Combo]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.272066 ($179 AR)
[GPU (Sapphire 5770 1GB DX11 GPU) ]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102858 ($160)
[HDD (Samsung F3 500GB)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181 ($55)
[DVD (Samsung 22X DVDRW)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151187 ($27)
[Case (Gigabyte Luxo X140)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233058 ($30)
[PSU (OCZ 500W Modular 80+)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016 ($29 AR + discount code: OZSAVEOCT)
[RAM (OCZ 4GB DDR3 1333)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227495 ($59 AR)




Total: $592.93 + $55 MIR =$537.93


I'm aware that the price of this machine has slipped above the original $500 target but the offers in the next price bracket were just too good to ignore. You're getting a monster rig here, much better than I had ever originally planned for, this will tear through absolutely anything you throw at it @ 1080p, gaming or otherwise. You're getting a top of the line gaming machine with a full quad core running at 3ghz for your $550 here, no half measures.



Now as a bonus, here's a superb $400 machine that is all you need to play all the latest games at high settings with absolute minimum cost. I absolutely recommend the previous rig first and foremost, but on a really tight budget, you'll be delighted with this machine:


ME said:
US GAF'S ULTIMATE $400 GAMING RIG

[CPU/MOTHERBOARD/MEMORY COMBO (2.8ghz E6300 / ECS G31 / OCZ SLI 4GB 800mhz)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.215870 ($157 +$23 MIR)
[DVDRW (Samsung 22x SATA)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151187 ($27)
[GPU (Sapphire E HD 4850 512M)]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824 ($100)
[HDD (WD CAVIAR BLUE 640GB )]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218 ($60)
[CASE/PSU COMBO (Coolermaster Centurion 5 / Coolermaster 460w): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.208506 ($75)


$418.92 - $33 rebates = $395.93



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Optional 1080p monitor:


ASUS 1080P VGA/DVI-D/HDMI Glossy black ($200 +$20 rebates): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

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Total cost of 1080p gaming rig with 1080p monitor = $803.93 +$85 MIR = $718.93



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UK GAF'S ULTIMATE £400 GAMING RIG.


Just like the rig for US posters, I've put together a config that uses the absolute best "bang for buck" components whilst sticking to a strict £400 budget. The basic components are similar but I've used parts that are better priced at Ebuyer in order in come in on budget.

[Motherboard (MSI 770 AM3 DDR3)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165438 (£49.66)
[CPU (Athlon ii X3 435 2.9ghz)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043 (65.67)
[RAM (Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333mhz)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166463 (£80.79)
[GPU (XFX HD 4870 512MB)]:http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169206 (£91.20)
[DVD (22X Sony DVDRW)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170014 (£15.89)
[Case/PSU (Coolermaster Elite 330 and Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 460w PSU)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135101 (£54.99)
[HDD (Samsung F3 500GB)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146252 (£42.54)

Total cost = £400.74 delivered




Optional monitor:

22" 1680X1050 DVI-D/VGA LG: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152124#

Total cost with monitor = £412.97.91 + £119.98 = £532.95




Recommended upgrades for 1080p gaming


[GPU (XFX 4890 1GB)]: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167969 (£140.73)

Total cost of 1080p gaming rig = £453.70



Optional 1080P monitor:

Samsung 1080p Gloss Black DVI/VGA (£163.04): http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158382

Total cost of 1080p gaming rig + 1080p monitor = £616.74



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Firestorm said:
CANADIAN GAF'S ULTIMATE $650 GAMING RIG PROVIDED BY FIRESTORM

BFG GeForce GTX 260 OC - $179.99 - $20 MIR = $159.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=38853&promoid=1016

Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB - $77.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=34286&promoid=1016

Coolermaster Elite RC-330 - after Price Match it's $40.70
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20935
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/114936/COOLERMASTER/RC_330_KKN1/

Seasonic S12II 500W EPS12V 20/24PIN ATX Power Supply - $69.99 - $10 MIR - $59.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29896&promoid=1016

Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 - after Price Match it's $80.94 - $10 MIR = $70.94
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35762
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD4096&vpn=GA-MA770-UD3&manufacture=GIGABYTE

AMD Phenom II X3 720 - after Price Match it's $155.00
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=35467
http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=443136

Samsung SH-S223F Black 22x DVD Writer SATA - after Price Match it's $27.24
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=38115
http://www.memoryhouse.com/products/4179/Samsung/SH_S223F_BEBE/

2x2GB Patriot Extreme Performance Viper RAM: $69.99 - $25 MIR = $44.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31269

Total: $707.84 - $55 in rebates = $646.84
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Unlocking the mysteries of triple buffering; this is essential reading for any PC gamer, and following this guide can be the equivalent of a free GPU upgrade for many.




Half Life 2: Episode 2 CPU benchmark (notice how the $100 550 wipes the floor with the Core i7 920? :D ):

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GPU performance benchmarks to demonstrate the excellent performance of the 4870 512MB used in these rigs (note these use a different CPU but since we're in a GPU limited situation performance will be very similar):

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*Yes, that's right, a solid 30fps at 1680x1050 in Crysis with max DX10 shaders can be yours for just $500, these days!*

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Unlocking the extra two cores of your Phenom ii X2 550 (note this is not guaranteed, but worth trying anyway, who doesn't want a $100 quad core?:D ):

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-athlon-ii-x2_15.html#sect0

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Handy "how to build a PC" video.
This is a much watch for any new PC builder, I recommend reading a few guides as well, though motherboard manuals (and motherboards themselves) are packed with helpful information these days. Its a lot easier than you'd imagine.

Nice guide here at Tech Report as well: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13671

And here at the Ebuyer forums (signup to see the images): http://forums.ebuyer.com/showthread.php?t=19603

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Now now you know the hardware is cheaper than ever, what about the games? Check out
Adrian Werner's excellent PC games list to see what you've been missing out on and what's to come then get ready for your backlog to increase tenfold. :D



2007's ultimate PC games list.
2008's ultimate PC games list.
2009 ultiamte PC Games list.
2010 ultimate PC Games list


See the astonishing visuals these rigs can pull off in the PC screenshot thread.
 

Mrbob

Member
Wow, nice job.

Add a wired 360 controller and you can play this gens best multi plat games at a cheaper price and better performance.
 
Awesome thread! I'll be keeping up with it. Do you plan to keep it updated to represent the best possible $500 PC at any given time?

This is a minor note, but could you possibly space out the main component list with the actual name of the components on their own lines, or bold the component names, or something to make that big block of text more readable?
 

mr stroke

Member
Great post, but why does everyone always leave off OS's when they do these? Not everyone wants Linux or has a OS laying around.

leaving off an OS is cheating!


(still cheap though $500 pc +Win 64=$600)
 
Chris Remo said:
Awesome thread! I'll be keeping up with it. Do you plan to keep it updated to represent the best possible $500 PC at any given time?

This is a minor note, but could you possibly space out the main component list with the actual name of the components on their own lines, or bold the component names, or something to make that big block of text more readable?

I'll try and keep it updated as best I can, thanks for the idea on making it easier to read, I'm no good at stuff like that, just doing my best.
 

Blizzard

Banned
pr0cs said:
Vista home premium runs you $100 for an OEM edition if I recall correctly, but you may want to wait until they do the free upgrade-to-7 thing.

I run Windows 7 (beta, now RC) all the time, but I have most of my actual installs and data on a larger Vista partition.

Also, just a warning (and brain_stew feel free to give your input on this), I have a 512MB 4850, and possibly the same memory and hard disk there. Unless my e8400 is what's limiting me, 1680x1050 -will- tax that video card on high settings in some games. I have both the e8400 and the 4850 at stock speeds, though, and even then I should probably invest in a $30 cooler replacement for the 4850. I've been meaning to ask, actually, since I'm not sure if I should simply upgrade the card, or whether it's worth continuing to spend money on that. Another case fan should also help me, I only have the two that came with that case. Of course, that card also gets super-hot, though that cooler in the picture might help. I think that's the same cooler that I've heard has an annoying whine on some systems, so your luck may vary.

I built my full system including monitor and OS for a tiny bit over $1000 (same case too), so it's nice that the price has fallen so much.
 
mr stroke said:
Great post, but why does everyone always leave off OS's when they do these? Not everyone wants Linux or has a OS laying around.

leaving off an OS is cheating!


(still cheap though $500 pc +Win 64=$600)

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Gully State said:
Windows 7 RC is free for the time being.
 

Stop It

Perfectly able to grasp the inherent value of the fishing game.
mr stroke said:
Great post, but why does everyone always leave off OS's when they do these? Not everyone wants Linux or has a OS laying around.

leaving off an OS is cheating!


(still cheap though $500 pc +Win 64=$600)
Deferred payment. Get Windows 7 now, pay in October, sorted.

Anyway, great thread brain stew, only one slight issue, your URL for the case in the UK rig section is wrong. It should be this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146338
 
mr stroke said:
Great post, but why does everyone always leave off OS's when they do these? Not everyone wants Linux or has a OS laying around.

leaving off an OS is cheating!


(still cheap though $500 pc +Win 64=$600)

Buying a Windows OS at this moment in time is a very bad move. You can use Windows 7 free for 9 months, not only does it help space out the cost, but for most its a necessary future purchase for things outside of gaming.


Stop It said:
Deferred payment. Get Windows 7 now, pay in October, sorted.

Anyway, great thread brain stew, only one slight issue, your URL for the case in the UK rig section is wrong.

Thanks.
 

Doytch

Member
Yeah, a lot of people get OSs free through their school/work. I've got four XP licenses, and two Vista licenses, only using two of the XP ones.
 

pr0cs

Member
Blizzard said:
Vista home premium runs you $100 for an OEM edition if I recall correctly, but you may want to wait until they do the free upgrade-to-7 thing.
I just think it should have been included in the price since it's somewhat important for gaming.
 

Ikopi

Member
brain_stew, thanks for this and thanks for all your help in the PC thread!

W7 is free for the time being, but you will need to reformat once you buy the retail version in October. No big deal, but good to know in advance :)
 

Blizzard

Banned
brain_stew said:
Buying a Windows OS at this moment in time is a very bad move. You can use Windows 7 free for 9 months, not only does it help space out the cost, but for most its a necessary future purchase for things outside of gaming.




Thanks.
Also it's worth warning people that (unless there's news I don't know of) people are supposed to reinstall after the RC expires to install their new version. I think it's this fall that they're giving people who buy Vista after a certain point a free 7 upgrade?
 
Stop It said:
Deferred payment. Get Windows 7 now, pay in October, sorted.

Anyway, great thread brain stew, only one slight issue, your URL for the case in the UK rig section is wrong.


The release candidate is good till next july, plenty of time to save up.

Great thread, it really is an excellent time to get back into, or jump into PC gaming. Tons of RPG's, FPS's, MMO's, awesome casual games like Plants VS Zombies, etc.
 
I brought a great gaming pc about 2 months back now for £450, close to what is listed here but anyway with those components for £375 you are laughing, I love playing games at 60+ fps all maximum for so cheap :D
 
Blizzard said:
Vista home premium runs you $100 for an OEM edition if I recall correctly, but you may want to wait until they do the free upgrade-to-7 thing.

I run Windows 7 (beta, now RC) all the time, but I have most of my actual installs and data on a larger Vista partition.

Also, just a warning (and brain_stew feel free to give your input on this), I have a 512MB 4850, and possibly the same memory and hard disk there. Unless my e8400 is what's limiting me, 1680x1050 -will- tax that video card on high settings in some games. I have both the e8400 and the 4850 at stock speeds, though, and even then I should probably invest in a $30 cooler replacement for the 4850. I've been meaning to ask, actually, since I'm not sure if I should simply upgrade the card, or whether it's worth continuing to spend money on that. Another case fan should also help me, I only have the two that came with that case. Of course, that card also gets super-hot, though that cooler in the picture might help. I think that's the same cooler that I've heard has an annoying whine on some systems, so your luck may vary.

I built my full system including monitor and OS for a tiny bit over $1000 (same case too), so it's nice that the price has fallen so much.

Get this for your 4850. Best VGA cooler on the market and it's fanless. My 4850 now runs at 50C 100% load after installing this VGA heat sink.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186016
 
Blizzard said:
Also it's worth warning people that (unless there's news I don't know of) people are supposed to reinstall after the RC expires to install their new version. I think it's this fall that they're giving people who buy Vista after a certain point a free 7 upgrade?

You're "supposed to" but absolutely can do a straight upgrade, as you could from the beta, Microsoft have already confirmed this, I believe.
 
brain_stew said:
You're "supposed to" but absolutely can do a straight upgrade, as you could from the beta, Microsoft have already confirmed this, I believe.
So you'll be able to go straight from the RC to the full retail release? That's actually the reason I haven't installed the RC, I didn't want to have to deal with that.
 

Ikopi

Member
brain_stew said:
You're "supposed to" but absolutely can do a straight upgrade, as you could from the beta, Microsoft have already confirmed this, I believe.

Aha, this sounds interesting. Hope this works without hiccups.
 
Doytch said:
Yeah, a lot of people get OSs free through their school/work. I've got four XP licenses, and two Vista licenses, only using two of the XP ones.

Any UK student can get it for a very reduced price (£40 for Ultimate) through the Ultiamte Steal, see here:

http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/theultimatesteal-uk/default.aspx

Stuff like this + the free RC makes me hesitant to add the cost of the OS to the build, failing all that, damn near everybody needs/has a Windows OS for a multitude of things outside of gaming. Its hardly a cost that can be directly attributed to a gaming rig.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Ooh, I'll keep posting! Also note that (unless that CPU is awesome, or overclocking stuff is implied) you will certainly not be playing crysis at maximum on 1680x1050, at least not near 60fps. I think I got 15-30 on warhead, which is supposedly more optimized?

Also "maximum" needs defined since some people use lots of AA. If I go above 2xAA or 4xAA on the highest settings in Mirror's Edge, for instance, you get graphical lag/stutters (and it again makes the 4850 heat up like crazy). I'm not sure of the exact fps since I don't typically measure it unless it's a source game.

I suspect Call of Juarez near-highest settings isn't 60fps...TF2 regularly drops 120-30fps for me depending on the map area if I'm using single-core rendering. L4D is probably 45-100 fps depending on the area, again using single-core rendering. Multicore rendering means things get super hot AND zombies stutter all over the place for me.

Anno 1404 highest settings, maybe the recent empire game also had issues at highest settings. I get the impression the 4850 is more of a mid/highrange card now? :)

*edit*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186016
Yeah, that's the one I'll probably get. I still don't quite understand how it can cool so well without heating up your CPU -or- using fans, and I need to make sure it'll fit in my Antec 300 case as well.
 
Chris Remo said:
So you'll be able to go straight from the RC to the full retail release? That's actually the reason I haven't installed the RC, I didn't want to have to deal with that.


According to the windows 7 FAQ you will need to do a clean install:

Can I upgrade from the RC to the final version of Windows 7?

When you install the final version of Windows 7, you'll need to do a clean installation. So plan on backing up your data then reinstalling your applications and restoring your data.

But that might change...
 

a.wd

Member
Fantastic thread, this should be pinned I think. Can you keep updating the components for best bang for buck?

sorted!
 
Chris Remo said:
So you'll be able to go straight from the RC to the full retail release? That's actually the reason I haven't installed the RC, I didn't want to have to deal with that.

You could definitely do it with the BETA, MS don't encourage it, though their developers released instructions on how to do so (which should work with the full release as well) but obviously you can't say either way until its released, so don't hold me to it. I'd recommend doing more of your own research but its definitely not an impossibility.

I plan to add a few benchmarks to the op, to show what these components are capable of, sound a good idea?
 

Stop It

Perfectly able to grasp the inherent value of the fishing game.
SuperEnemyCrab said:
The release candidate is good till next july, plenty of time to save up.

Great thread, it really is an excellent time to get back into, or jump into PC gaming. Tons of RPG's, FPS's, MMO's, awesome casual games like Plants VS Zombies, etc.
In March 2010 it will start nagging/shutting down after a period of time, so its best to pay before then.

Still, that's a long time away, and it does help spead the cost. I couldn't do without my Quad Core nowadays, and I was lucky to win (mahwhwhahahahaha) a GTX275, but Brain Stew has made some good riggage here.
 
Stop It said:
In March 2010 it will start nagging/shutting down after a period of time, so its best to pay before then.

Still, that's a long time away, and it does help spead the cost. I couldn't do without my Quad Core nowadays, and I was lucky to win (mahwhwhahahahaha) a GTX275, but Brain Stew has made some good riggage here.

Well, if you're lucky, you can actually unlock one or two cores with that Phenom ii X2. Some people have bagged a 4ghz quad core for $100 after some tweaking!! :lol

This isn't guaranteed ofcourse, and its the luck of the draw, but there's plenty of people that have managed it, so its a lovely little bonus. :D
 

careful

Member
Have AMD CPUs really caught up to the usual suspects Intel CPUs? I would probably feel more confident shelling out the extra dough for an E8400 or one of the cheaper C2D like an E7400.
 
$584 US DOLLARS

is a very good price for a PC upgrade. I'll keep this thread bookmarked for the next time I go PC shopping.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
Awesome thread, personally I'd buy from Overclockers, they offer free shipping to members of their forums and they've always been very good to me. Would be cool if someone makes, or has, a rig like this and could post some benchmarks for interested people.

Classic_Gs said:
Awesome thread. I hope to buy a new gaming pc next year and I will use this as my guide.
You won't be able to buy half of this stuff in a year :lol You'll be getting an even better system by then.
 

Blizzard

Banned
careful said:
Have AMD CPUs really caught up to the usual suspects Intel CPUs? I would probably feel more confident shelling out the extra dough for an E8400 or one of the cheaper C2D like an E7400.
Don't go below an e8400 if you're trying to play high settings on recent games. In fact, it's probably kind-of-expected for you to overclock it for better performance. >_>

Speaking of which, what's the best Intel budget CPU these days, and are they likely to work on an e8400-compatible motherboard?
 
careful said:
Have AMD CPUs really caught up to the usual suspects Intel CPUs? I would probably feel more confident shelling out the extra dough for an E8400 or one of the cheaper C2D like an E7400.

The 550 offers nigh on identical performance to a E8400 at stock but its easier to overclock due to its unlocked multiplier, is on a platform with decent future upgrade option and has the potential to unlock a couple extra cores. And its $65 cheaper to boot! AMD really own the low end and midrange now, they're Phenom ii range offers some seriously good value.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
skinnyrattler said:
Is it easy to put PCs together? I remember a buddy of mine doing it and having a ton of problems.
Not really, the only troubles come when something doesn't work, even then it's either a damaged component or something really simple. On my last build I forgot to up the voltage for my RAM and it took me a few days to realize that, felt a little stupid.
 
Ikuu said:
Awesome thread, personally I'd buy from Overclockers, they offer free shipping to members of their forums and they've always been very good to me. Would be cool if someone makes, or has, a rig like this and could post some benchmarks for interested people.


You won't be able to buy half of this stuff in a year :lol You'll be getting an even better system by then.

Overclockers.co.uk have a very dodgy reputation and shipping is very expensive if you're not an active forum member. Ebuyer offer everyone free delivery if you spend £50 or more and their service is excellent, hard to argue with really, though I'm a big fan of Novatech these days.
 
Tideas said:
This is not gonna be able to run crysis on max or high quality.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3553&p=5

That shows it can barely get 30fps, and that's running on an i7.

It'll manage Crysis just fine at high or with a custom config at 1680x1050 or below, Crysis is very playable at lower framerates, unlike many games.

I never said it'd max out every game but "high" settings at 1680x1050 (with a couple of notches turned down here or there should be more than doable in most games, many will be maxed just fine. The 4850 is a very capable card at mainstream resolutions.
 

zbarron

Member
My only question is if the included power supply would be able to run the 4890 or if you would need to upgrade that as well.

Very nice thread though.
 
Blizzard said:
*edit*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186016
Yeah, that's the one I'll probably get. I still don't quite understand how it can cool so well without heating up your CPU -or- using fans, and I need to make sure it'll fit in my Antec 300 case as well.

My guess:

1) Those fins on the cooler are incredibly large and have a huge surface area

2) The pre-applied thermal compound is done right (covers the entire area of the contact point b/t GPU and Heat sink while maintaining an incredibly thin layer

3) The stock 4850 HSF is applied like shit- Once you open it up, you'll be able to see. They use this rubber compound that basically hugs all the chips. It's also applied fairly thick and falls off quite easily.
 

Blizzard

Banned
brain_stew said:
It'll manage Crysis just fine at high or with a custom config at 1680x1050 or below, Crysis is very playable at lower framerates, unlike many games.
Is there any potential for a decent price of relatively non-DRM'd Crysis? I already own Steam Warhead (which technically uses the lowest SecuROM level anyway, meh), so I don't want to get the pack. $30 isn't bad, so I could just go for the full Steam retail. I'd like to get some framerates on these and other games so I can see whether all the claims people put up are true or not. I still don't want people thinking they'll get ultimate 8xAA 60fps performance on some of the newer titles. :p (oh, I see you edited and kind of mentioned that)

Regarding that heatsink, I think I also heard it doesn't totally fit the 4850, and you needed to get a couple of additional small square heatsinks for the memory chips. Is that correct? (I think I took the heatsink off and used my own arctic silver 5, by the way, so if the goop was messed up it's my own fault :D )
 
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