JustRiffled
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You are grasping at straws. You know it. (excpet for Xenoblade)
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Game Informer: Miyamoto Talks Pikmin, Wii U, New IPs and the Future of 3D Mario
- Thread starter BowieZ
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You are grasping at straws. You know it. (excpet for Xenoblade)
Nintendo has been feeding us these same-y bullshit excuses for ten years now. Just be honest: Nintendo is really cheap and kinda lazy.
No, it's completely inexcusable because plenty of games last generation with open world or many tasks to handle or that were CPU intensive had online play. GTA4 comes to mind.
Get a grip, Nintendo.
StreetsAhead
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How so?
The complaint was that Nintendo always coupled new game play with Mario or Kirby and I showed that that was not the case. Your personal feelings toward the franchises mean nothing in this instance.
Snowden's Secret
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Sadly, this is actually pretty true, and it's a snowball effect.
Because Mario and Kirby have been in so many different types of games, it makes them the most suited for other new different types of games.
You forgot TW101 in your list
Well the "cheap" part has always been true. They are the only player in the market that always aims for profit day1 with all products and games.
Has someone already flown into this thread and put out that list of Nintendo-created and/or Nintendo-published IP yet?
I don't get their reasoning either. Lets say Yoshio Sakamoto in SPD 1 thinks of a new gameplay idea for an action/adventure title, but someone decides it would make sense to shoehorn the gameplay idea in the Zelda universe rather than make a new IP. What happens then? Does Yoshio Sakamoto now not work on the game since his team doesn't work on Zelda games and his ideas go to Aonuma and the Zelda team? That can't be right.
Carpe Libertatem
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In other words: New IPs only count if I like them
Gamer @ Heart
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The IP argument circle is complete.
Lol @ hyping fast sailing and grappling. How long did that take? 5 minutes? Thats it?
WW was the last game that needed a visual overhaul. There are major possibilities to improve gameplay and add content. This remake is a trainwreck compared to OOT 3DS. Make a WW Master's Quest, would buy ^_^
WW was the last game that needed a visual overhaul. There are major possibilities to improve gameplay and add content. This remake is a trainwreck compared to OOT 3DS. Make a WW Master's Quest, would buy ^_^
This. What a ridiculous moving of the goalkposts by people in this thread.
Pushmo is one of the most unique new IPs I have played in years.
Exactly, and they could have easily taken the safe route and just made it a Mario puzzle game.
Snowden's Secret
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I imagine we'll get Super Mario Galaxy 3 (or some variation on the name) as a throwback in a couple generations a la Luigi's Mansion.
Wickerbasket
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Or they'll port Super Mario Galaxy 2 in HD and try get you to pay full price again.
JustRiffled
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Ok that too
Point is people want new big IP's from EAD that aren't Minigame collections (Wii line of game, Nintendo Land). Something in the scale of Pikmin
educator
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You make a valid point, and I agree that Nintendo does a great job with keeping Mario fun and lighthearted, while still providing a challenge. I shouldn't really have mentioned Mario in my original post; I was actually talking about Zelda, but it came out confusing. And if I wanted a "spookier" experience, theres always Luigis Mansion.
That's true, and I cant oppose you because I haven't played a Mario game since New Super Mario Bros on the DS.
I enjoy them both, and they are both great series. I would just like to see Zelda borrow stuff from other WRPG's, like the Witcher 2, because I think that could evolve Zelda even more. It's just my opinion, and if people want Nintendo to keep going like usual Im totally fine with that.
I don't know, man. Zelda is always going to be Zelda. You won't get a completely radical change. I can see them going back to the subtle-dark themes of Majora's Mask. Add that with HD and it might satisfy you. However, I don't think you'll ever get all of those things you want because you have a huge list. Dialog choices that change the world is an old, extremely cheap gimmick. It isn't timeless and it isn't modern. Leave that to the early 360 titles. If Nintendo did that, there version would be much different. If there's going to be a game-changing moment, Nintendo is going to want you to have to make that decision yourself via gameplay. It won't be in a simple dialog box and I doubt it'll be this huge/branching mess. The Witcher 2 graphics they've already said won't happen. It doesn't look like they're going anywhere near realism for awhile. It's expensive and wasteful, the last thing they want is Zelda to do is flop. What I like about Zelda is that they spend their budget going other things, making gameplay and music just as important to the experience. I don't want Zelda to enter the tech race, just stay in the gameplay race.
Wii Sports, Rhythm Heaven, and Pushmo were quality games!
These are fun but very cheap and forgettable mini-games that could be sold for a few bucks on a mobile app store. If you grew up with Nintendo games of immense scale and production values like Super Mario World and Ocarina of Time, and your expectation of a new IP is something equally important like Pikmin, then Wii Sports and Rhythm Heaven just don't pass the test. Quickly-made, low-budget games are not what Nintendo fans asked for when they want new must-have titles. These are not meaningful new IPs for someone looking to play the next innovative Mario Galaxy-caliber title, and we're in a really sad place if we have to resort to listing these games as "proof" that Nintendo is still doing things right.
Every time I see someone defending Nintendo's obvious screw-ups, it's always with a really sad, anemic list of games that proves the original point. JustRiffled gets it.
educator
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Yea, I would like too see them go back to the theme of Majoras Mask. That game to me was better than OoT, and it did scare me at times as kid. And yes, dialogue options could probably brake a game and run too far away from what made a franchise like Zelda so successful, but it could also make it interesting and deeper if done right. One of the reasons I've been mentioning The Witcher 2 is because of the graphics, and I still believe Zelda could be awesome looking like that. But then again, I would never want Nintendo to compromise music/gameplay.
I guess I just lost Nintendo somewhere along the line, and I feel kind of bitter about it. I thought the Gamecube was near perfection, but ever since the Wii I look at them differently, unfortunately. I could blame it on growing up, but then again, a game like Zelda just never grows old.
autobzooty
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so am i supposed to play pikmin 3 with a wii remote and the gamepad in my lap or what
Mr.Gingerlicious
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They actually have a stand for that
I just place it on the coffee table (in front of the TV). The Gamepad also has a light bar (for Wii remotes) built into it, which works best in the stand obviously.
With Pikmin 3 you can use what ever control set up you want though, which I appreciate.
StreetsAhead
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Right, so there's been Disaster, Xenoblade, Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, X, The Wonderful 101, Endless Ocean, & Fossil Fighters.