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Gameinformer + Ubisoft + Nintendo Rev = Red Steel
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TheKingsCrown
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Scrow said:
I won't kill anyone heh. I just need a new avatar. I think I might adopt others as E3 gets closer and passes. I'll stay here for now though. Oh...and venga....
Drinky Crow
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i've seen the screens -- it looks like mgs3 level polygon count with similar effects and AA. in fact, mgs3 largely looks better and has better lighting effects. about the most "next gen" thing you can say about those screens is the particle count, which seems slightly above high-end ps2 level.
ouch, nintendo.
ouch, nintendo.
Bluemercury
Member
:lolDrinky Crow said:i've seen the screens -- it looks like mgs3 level polygon count with similar effects and AA. in fact, mgs3 largely looks better and has better lighting effects. about the most "next gen" thing you can say about those screens is the particle count, which seems slightly above high-end ps2 level.
ouch, nintendo.
Drinky Crow said:i've seen the screens -- it looks like mgs3 level polygon count with similar effects and AA. in fact, mgs3 largely looks better and has better lighting effects. about the most "next gen" thing you can say about those screens is the particle count, which seems slightly above high-end ps2 level.
ouch, nintendo.
Drinky, give credit where it's due! It basically looks like the Rainbow Six: Vegas shots we've seen, except with much lower polygon counts on character and not quite as intense lighting.
Drinky Crow
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the vegas shots aren't that impressive, but you can at least see the hdr effects and the geometric complexity. take that away and you're left with mgs3, technology-wise, minus the decent art direction.
LiquidMamba
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Twilight Rockstar said:
Sweetness. And we NEED some Twilight Princess news.
New information on the article courtesy of Player's Choice:
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In summary: Kill Bill-esque plot in which your character must save her fiancee, the daughter of a Yakuza lord who get's kidnapped in a power-war within the organization and confirmation for interactive/destructible scenarios.
fortified_concept
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Amir0x said:
What can I say. Maybe it's the bad quality of the scans and I'm overestinating its graphics, maybe I'm blind as a bat or maybe you're underestimating it because of the Rev specs. We'll see. The game looks very impressive to me though.
AdmiralViscen
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I've read every single page of this topic, starting when it was only ten pages. Every time I moved on to the next page, 2 more pages would sprout up, keeping me from ever reaching the end (and posting).
I'm wondering where all the people are who said the EyeToy on PS3 could do everything the Revmote could. Could they come in here and clarify their positions?
I'm wondering where all the people are who said the EyeToy on PS3 could do everything the Revmote could. Could they come in here and clarify their positions?
Drinky Crow
Banned
BUY A 360
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
7Th said:
Anything about what I was talking about in my last post about force feedback?
TheKingsCrown
Banned
Drinky Crow said:i've seen the screens -- it looks like mgs3 level polygon count with similar effects and AA. in fact, mgs3 largely looks better and has better lighting effects. about the most "next gen" thing you can say about those screens is the particle count, which seems slightly above high-end ps2 level.
ouch, nintendo.
In response to the most famous poster ever, I must Repost the following that provides a NiNfensive barrier:
If I could tell the world just one thing
It would be that Nintendo's ok
And not to worry because worry is wasteful
and useless with Revmotes like these
Revolution will not be made useless
It won't be idled with despair
It will gather itself around Revmote
for motion does the boomerang most fear
Its graphics are small, I know,
but realistic Link gives me a bone
but realistic Link gives me a bone
and I will never be boneless
Graphics stole your common sense
but they didn't steal your gameplay
And graphics-age came to visit you
but i knew it wouldn't after E3
We will fight, not out of spite
for someone must stand up to spread Revo's light
cause where there's a console with betterer graphics
our Revmotes shall go a swinging
In the end only gameplay matters
In the end only gameplay matters
I will get down in front of my Revmote and I will pray
I will get down in front of my Revmote and I will pray
Its graphics are small I know,
but realistic Link gives me a bone
but realistic Link gives me a bone
and I am never boneless
Its graphics are small, i know,
but realistic Link gives me a bone
but realistic Link gives me a bone
and I am never boneless
Nintendo fans am never broken
We are Nintendo's eyes
Nintendo's hands
Nintendo's mind
We are Nintendo's eyes
Nintendo's hands
Nintendo's heart
We are Nintendo's eyes
Nintendo's hands
Nintendo's eyes
Revmotes are our hands
Revmotes are Nintendo's heart
Revmotes are Nintendo's Mind
DeathbyVolcano
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*Sigh*
No, they aren't target renders. They are you're typical Ubi "tad touched up" screens. Fuck, Che even said it were true.
No, they aren't target renders. They are you're typical Ubi "tad touched up" screens. Fuck, Che even said it were true.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Seth C said:Sorry. I don't really have the time or desire to read a fucking 30 page thread for one bit of info.
On that note I think we should try a first page update.
acousticvan
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It is next-gen graphic but in a smaller scale.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Hey, seeya later dude!
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
acousticvan said:
take that down, fast. you'll get in biiiiig trouble
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Acoustic, edit that out of your post or you will be banned. It's against the rules.
edit: wow, that was quick.
edit: wow, that was quick.
dlobro1080
Member
Drinky Crow said:the vegas shots aren't that impressive, but you can at least see the hdr effects and the geometric complexity. take that away and you're left with mgs3, technology-wise, minus the decent art direction.
Look -- if you're hung up on "hdr effects" and polygon counts and all that crap, you're obviously missing the entire point of the Revolution anyway. For those of us excited about the system, it's the controller and the games that come first. I honestly don't give a shit about seeing sweat on some dude's forhead.
But in simple terms, if you want to discuss graphics, Red Steel looks great. Does it look as good as Fight Night 360? As good as Gears of War? Nope. But I would say it looks great.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
tried to warn him...
anyway, those newer images that have been floating around are even nicer... damn, it does look good though, for what its worth. Though it kind of reminds me of Def Jam: Vendetta a bit, ha
anyway, those newer images that have been floating around are even nicer... damn, it does look good though, for what its worth. Though it kind of reminds me of Def Jam: Vendetta a bit, ha
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
From the sounds of things there was meant to be some kind of coordinated revealing of several different projects or pieces of information on April 20th across all the different territories. Possibily all 3rd party titles?
So maybe any "anger" at this leak is because it lessens the impact of several projects/info being revealed at the same time to shatter the silence and please a broad spectrum of gamers?
Next few weeks leading to E3 are going to be great...I also wonder if Sony have any major tricks up their sleave, they've been pretty quiet.
Nintendo Arse it is then.
I would quite like to see novel takes on multiplayer gameplay that exploit how differently the use of this controller is...not just 4 players trying to kill each other or even just co-op. Could multiplayer not include some kind of game about killing/disarming a collection of enemies as quickly/successfully as possible before comparing how your friends did? Something analogous to Burnout's multiplayer Crash Mode? Hopefully the new ideas can extend beyond single player and throw up more than the standard deathmatch, ctf etc.
Goes some way to explaining the appearance of the screenshots
So maybe any "anger" at this leak is because it lessens the impact of several projects/info being revealed at the same time to shatter the silence and please a broad spectrum of gamers?
Next few weeks leading to E3 are going to be great...I also wonder if Sony have any major tricks up their sleave, they've been pretty quiet.
superfly said:
Nintendo Arse it is then.
SnakeXs said:
I would quite like to see novel takes on multiplayer gameplay that exploit how differently the use of this controller is...not just 4 players trying to kill each other or even just co-op. Could multiplayer not include some kind of game about killing/disarming a collection of enemies as quickly/successfully as possible before comparing how your friends did? Something analogous to Burnout's multiplayer Crash Mode? Hopefully the new ideas can extend beyond single player and throw up more than the standard deathmatch, ctf etc.
Rocked said:Sorry if this has been mentioned, but apparently it's being made by the GRAW team.
Goes some way to explaining the appearance of the screenshots
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
BuddyC said:
What are your thoughts on all the info we have so far regarding the game?
... think we'll need Friend Codes to play it online? hahaaa
DeathbyVolcano
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How do you know there was supposed to be this so called "coordinated revealing?" Are you saying that we'll get even more shit like, in a week?
:Motorbass
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NRS
So you know what's next...
SUPER NRS!
So you know what's next...
SUPER NRS!
Ninja Scooter
Member
el Croux said:
nice try.
Drinky Crow said:the vegas shots aren't that impressive, but you can at least see the hdr effects and the geometric complexity. take that away and you're left with mgs3, technology-wise, minus the decent art direction.
Well it is on a much smaller scale, it seems. But this is too little to go on. Need larger scans and movies.
fortified_concept said:
No, I'm not underestimating it whatsoever. But to say it looks better than most next gen games so far is just fucking ridiculous, and also not true in any sense. Any game with a comparable stylistic choice on 360 or PS3 looks on par or better AND in HD - Call of Duty 2, Rainbow Six: Vegas for instance. And many look substantially better - GRAW, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Brothers in Arms 3 for instance.
Please note, that's not discrediting this game. From what I can tell, it looks very good considering Rev specs, indeed approximating several mid-range next-gen titles in SD. Plus, of course, the little thing about 'revmote'. That's kinda big too
I really love the damage control in this thread. The reason is because, for once, the damage control is not coming from Nintendo fans but rather from the Microsoft and Sony ones.
The truth is that many people expected the revolution to look similar to the Xbox. The CPU speed is identical, THEY MUST BE JUST AS POWERFUL. Now that we've seen the first Revolution screenshots and they turn out to be way better than wallguy's MTV debut the trolls simply don't know what to say. I'm sure drinky and his following had loads of photoshops ready to be used for the day that we'd see the first rev screenshot but now that we have and it looks a lot better than anything on the Xbox, they attack the system's HDR and PS (lack of) technology.
We all knew and expected the revolution to suck in terms of graphics. It was meant to be a low end, budget alternative to X360 and PS3. We didn't really believe that the graphics would turn out as good as they did.
But on to my real point, it's quite obvious that UBIsoft has taken the FPS genre to a whole new level in terms of gameplay. Fast, responsive and more natural controls. The game sounds like, if done properly, can set the new standard in FPS games and no matter what shader effects the PS3 or X360 can pull, they will not be able to replicate that type of gameplay with their dual-analog controllers. That's the point of the Revolution.
The truth is that many people expected the revolution to look similar to the Xbox. The CPU speed is identical, THEY MUST BE JUST AS POWERFUL. Now that we've seen the first Revolution screenshots and they turn out to be way better than wallguy's MTV debut the trolls simply don't know what to say. I'm sure drinky and his following had loads of photoshops ready to be used for the day that we'd see the first rev screenshot but now that we have and it looks a lot better than anything on the Xbox, they attack the system's HDR and PS (lack of) technology.
We all knew and expected the revolution to suck in terms of graphics. It was meant to be a low end, budget alternative to X360 and PS3. We didn't really believe that the graphics would turn out as good as they did.
But on to my real point, it's quite obvious that UBIsoft has taken the FPS genre to a whole new level in terms of gameplay. Fast, responsive and more natural controls. The game sounds like, if done properly, can set the new standard in FPS games and no matter what shader effects the PS3 or X360 can pull, they will not be able to replicate that type of gameplay with their dual-analog controllers. That's the point of the Revolution.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
Brimstone said:
Hadn't even though about that! Call of Duty S&D would be hilarious if you had to manually defuse the bombs. The idea of using destroyed pieces of the environment (broken glass, a chair, fire-extinguisher, dead guy's corpse) as weapons or shields also becomes far more intuitive and varied.
What about co-op where player 2 only uses a Revmote and can control all the functions of the left hand? Dual sword, dual guns, one had to shoot and your buddy throwing nades at a different collection of enemies? Is this not a possibility? Sure you could do something similar with traditional pads, but the Revmote could allow such free movement of the other arm that this in itself could be fun (maybe).
I am also really looking forward to a first-person boxing game using dual-remotes - gone would be all the BS about what to press to do certain types of punches of feints, you could practically play the game without ever pressing a single button. PunchOut HAS to return in some form.
I also demand arcade ports or VC downloads of games like Time Crisis, with 2P mode, so I can replicate those childhood dual-wielding moments down at the arcade.
What about Lucas Arts bringing Indiana Jones and his whip to the table? Using his whip to race a chariot etc. Could be hilarious fun. Or how about capturing wild animals and tending to your Animal Crossing farm using a lasso?
There are so many ideas that could be realised. And even if 80% end up being shite and don't make it past the research phases of development, there is still a tonne of stuff that could be done.
Deku said:
According to the article Ubi Soft took their ideas to Nintendo. By the very nature of the Revolution interface, a game built from the ground-up for the machine is going to be pretty much impossible on anything else.
I agree with the prospect that this could offer a completely new perspective on first person shooters. But if most of the genre's entries are being developed for other platforms (like for instance, PC games with the latest engines?), how can the Revolution have the best first person shooters?
It's the complete opposite of your post. I don't think achieving the kind of visual impact a next generation first person shooter requires is a trivial matter for developers.
pinkatrophe
Member
Goreomedy said:
:lol
I can't wait to hear/ see more of this game. Some people have brought up good points about the graphical difference it may have against 360 games by virtue of the fact that it won't be in hi-def, but seeing as I (and I'm sure many others) still don't have HD TVs, I doubt it'll be as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be. After all, the Revolution is targeted towards a different consumer than the 360 or PS3.
If these are "standard" Revolution graphics and not the upper end of what we can expect then this is all really impressive. I don't understand the comparisons to MGS3's graphics by DK unless he was being facetious (as he always seems to be).
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