the_master
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It is shocking ro see that everything is cooler with the plates out.
I hope we get more clarity on this
I hope we get more clarity on this
See this is when I tell u ,u shouldn't be talking about tech. It is running at max allowable power draw which is around 230 watt .that means both are at max frequency for such high draw .talk about games more . That's wiser rather than spreading uneducated fudThe thing is,we don't see what frequency ps5 was running at start and through the duration of his tests.
Would casing generally not be a hindrance compared to a system fully exposed? To be expected that fully exposed fans like that would provide way better cooling. I'm sure any system runs much cooler with its case removedYes, yes. It's still in the safe range (there is also the fact that the reading is a couple degrees off, as the test isn't 100% accurate). I'm also not really worried as I'm sure that Sony has stress tested this enough under various conditions, but this still needs to be improved with the next revision.
And the side panels need to go for the next revision, if they're actually hindering cooling performance, as well.
From his responses he hasn't even watched the thing lol.See this is when I tell u ,u shouldn't be talking about tech. It is running at max allowable power draw which is around 230 watt .that means both are at max frequency for such high draw .talk about games more . That's wiser rather than spreading uneducated fud
Ouch, I thought the panels were supposed to help cooling
A 5c drop is bigly, especially if your mem is hitting 95c.
Tbh, I don't quite get why Sony when with them? So they can sell more accessories
The issue here is not that the fan can't take in fresh air, it's that the casing in itself is dissipating heat which gets trapped between the outer shell and the console itself heating up the console. This is also without expandable storage, which will heat up the space between shell and console a bit more.Would casing generally not be a hindrance compared to a system fully exposed? To be expected that fully exposed fans like that would provide way better cooling. I'm sure any system runs much cooler with its case removed
But not realistic to see that one a mass market system. The fins are probably as good a compromise as you'll see
93C memory is really hot for a clean console in a 68-73F environment. Once dust starts clogging and summer heatwaves hit that's almost definitely going to exceed 100C and start shutting down. I wonder if this is expected or if something went wrong in mass manufacturing.
The thing is,we don't see what frequency ps5 was running at start and through the duration of his tests.
How is that shocking to see? If you remove panels from a PC case it tends to run cooler. Panels obstruct airflow. Better airflow is better cooling.It is shocking ro see that everything is cooler with the plates out.
I hope we get more clarity on this
I don't know why, but I'm pretty sure that if that videIt’s obviously not positive with the video headline of “Weak Design: PS5 Thermals, Cooling, and Noise Levels”.
It’s VERY worth noting that this guy is a pompous ass who basically finds fault with everything and revels in negativity.
Frequency is irrelevant - the power draw is at max. That tells all anyone who understands this what they need to know.
Im sure you have more questions lol
VRMs and MOSFETs have a thermal limit of 150°C, the memory does not. It's close to thermal limit, however this was measured at the casing. The die itself could be cooler (or hotter).Just so you know computer components are not water, they don't hit 100 and suddenly they start to boil over, as is stated in the video these can go to 125-150 Celsius depending on spec without issue.
He was complaining about the thermal pads. Bigger thermal pads could improve temps, yes.Haven't seen the video yet, just reading comments, but could it be because of thermal pads on the memory?
I replaced those on my Pro, and it might have helped. Asking this because it could be just a production, manufacturing thing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since when was it confirmed that 230w is ps5 max power draw?
It is shocking ro see that everything is cooler with the plates out.
I hope we get more clarity on this
that should not matter too much if the title was not click bait but it is.Some people are REALLY exposing the fact they didn't watch the actual video and only read the title with their drive-by attempts.
+ Pretty quiettl;dr?
VRMs and MOSFETs have a thermal limit of 150°C, the memory does not. It's close to thermal limit, however this was measured at the casing. The die itself could be cooler (or hotter).
tl;dr?
Summary? Can't watch on mobile.
Anyway, GN while good, tends to have a superiority complex, their results are but a reference for their suite of tests.
and Steve talks for too long without focus
It’s obviously not positive with the video headline of “Weak Design: PS5 Thermals, Cooling, and Noise Levels”.
It’s VERY worth noting that this guy is a pompous ass who basically finds fault with everything and revels in negativity.
But I won’t personally be watching a 37 minute long nitpicking of the internal components of the PS5.
As long as the games are good and the thing doesn’t explode, I’ll be happy.
and now the hardware boasting from the past week comes to an end since the ps5 has a weak design according to this channel. well cerny
Added summary to the OP. Sorry for the delay.I'd also appreciate a summary, or an article. I don't care to watch a long video on thermals and sound. I do appreciate a good test kit though, and it seems like they're doing it the right way.
It's coming too.I wonder if Steve will test SX thermals too? Or has he done so already?
They changed it from "Weak Design" to "Weak Cooler Design".Great video. Really did some deep dive there.
The responses are equally entertaining. You can tell who didn't watch the video lolol. Talk about concern trolling shit posts.
Dam clickbait title tho
This would be good if it Shit on Xbox in every way, but that’s far from the truth.Xbox fanboys so desperate for anything to stop the current trend of PS5 shitting on the Series X in every single way.
heat bad/bad heat. heat + bad = heat badHe just doesn’t give anyone a reason why we should be worried about the mem temps.
Yea this channel exposing weakness in hardware isn't for you then. Stick to IGNIt’s obviously not positive with the video headline of “Weak Design: PS5 Thermals, Cooling, and Noise Levels”.
It’s VERY worth noting that this guy is a pompous ass who basically finds fault with everything and revels in negativity.
But I won’t personally be watching a 37 minute long nitpicking of the internal components of the PS5.
As long as the games are good and the thing doesn’t explode, I’ll be happy.
I'd appreciate concrete figure.Impressive power consumption and efficiency relative to the output in terms of the graphics capabilities, frame-rate, and overall perf is significanly higher than past devices, kudos to AMD for the SoC design.
I had no idea internals on anything tech got that hot, which apparently, other than the memory module, quite commonplace from a quick search.
I guess it makes sense. It’s not a human being. But temps of 150 F and higher inside these things is crazy to me, from the perspective of just feeling moderately warm air coming out.
Do you agree with the 'weak cooling design' statement?Great test, its assuring that APU heat dissipation is excellent. Also PS5 acouestics are fantastic.
heat bad/bad heat. heat + bad = heat bad
I wouldn’t be too concerned about this. Sony will have tested the system within and inch of its life before shipping. It’s not like they got all the components together, stuck it in and box and said ‘done’. It will have been tested in the worst case scenarios to ensure it still works.
hot days are one thing...but dust is going to be an even bigger factorThermal limit for GDDR6 is 100°C, the memory in PS5 hits around 95°C with a 21-22°C ambient temp.
No, but I do wonder if you'll have to during a hot summer day. Reminds me of the good old PC days where we had to take side panels off and had fans blow on the PC.
Do you agree with the 'weak cooling design' statement?