Inloveanddeath0
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I'd say less interesting but I'm still playing
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games are just not very fun anymore
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There are more great games to play than ever before. I can't understand the thinking in the OP at all.
DunDunDunpachi
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Modern AAA feels more like a chore than ever before. I do think you have a point. Even though I enjoy modern gaming, I am also pickier than ever before. I purchase fewer new games even though I've never had more disposable income than I do now.
Modern games have forgotten what simplicity is. Yeah, you can cram more enemies on the screen and give bigger open-world maps and include 10,000 hours of voiced dialogue, but is the moment-to-moment loop any more enjoyable? Often it is not.
A great game is often great because of the b.s. it omits and the time-wasting it cuts out. A long checklist of features doesn't guarantee that it'll be fun. I appreciate a crafted, focused experience.
Modern games have forgotten what simplicity is. Yeah, you can cram more enemies on the screen and give bigger open-world maps and include 10,000 hours of voiced dialogue, but is the moment-to-moment loop any more enjoyable? Often it is not.
A great game is often great because of the b.s. it omits and the time-wasting it cuts out. A long checklist of features doesn't guarantee that it'll be fun. I appreciate a crafted, focused experience.
Slings and Arrows
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I like games in the vein of Broken sword, monkey island et all and RTS games.
Both are almost none existant on consoles, so I'm with you OP
Both are almost none existant on consoles, so I'm with you OP
Lionel Richie
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Oh and if all else fails, you can always replay The Revenge of Shinobi.
Phase
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Thanks for this. I didn't know how much I needed to hear this again until now. And it's actually relevant to this post lol
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joe_zazen
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no doubt. so much time and money spent trying to get players emotionally involved in some giant aaa games when most people just want to have fun. That is why the biggest games are 99% gameplay (minecraft, gtao, fortnite, etc).
I think that is why Layden was fired: Sony has too many super expensive 10-20 hour story games that dont keep players engaged or subbing to psnow/plus.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
*Pours a sip on the concrete for brotha
SlashBringingHasher
SlashBringingHasher
Phase
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What are some Japanese games you've really enjoyed?
ResilientBanana
Member
Must not have watched XO19.
Dada55000
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that's core boomer you boomer
get with the times
daninthemix
Member
You're just an old fart, OP.
Danjin44
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SMT/Persona series (including PQ games and Tokyo Mirage Session)
Catherine
Gravity Rush 1&2
Drakengard/NieR series
.hack series
Dragon Quest 3, 5, 8 and 11
Bloodborne
Sekiro
Kingdom Heats series
Most PlatinumGames like Bayonetta 1&2, Astral Chain and Wonderful 101
God Hand
Resident Evil 2, 4 and Code Veronica
Xenoblade 1&2
Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4
Fire Emblem series
The Legend of Zelda series
3D Mario games
Tales of Vesperia, Symphonia, Xillia 1&2 and Tales Graces F
Atelier Ryza
Team ICO games
Silent Hill 2&3
Siren Blood Currse
Folklore
Pandora's Tower
Ni no Kuni 1&2
Octopath Traveler
This just top my head, there are many more.
Hypereides
Member
That's okay. Come and play with us in the past gens, OP.
Phase
Member
I've played a lot of these, but still quite a few I haven't. Thanks!
Punished Miku
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Sounds like you need to play some Nintendo games. Being 100% serious.
MaestroMike
Gold Member
As you get older and you have to work more and spend more energy in other areas of life it can be hard to have a nice sit down and relax and get in the mood to do some quality gaming. no one wants to game when they're tired or hungry or got other things they have to worry about. really u can get this time u need to enjoy games is when u take a vacation. it can be hard to even get in that flow u need on the weekends when u only have like 2 days off if u work during the week. my best gaming and the most fun I had with gaming were those long 2 month summer breaks from school growing up when I had no other commitments and could play games all day every day.
yodine53
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This medium has an incredible range of possibilities to create things and it would be a lost opportunity if all these creations were the same, like OP is saying. The "old times" some mentioned is exactly the same lost opportunity, because videogames can transmit more things than "just fun".
CyberPanda
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I agree with you OP. Gaming in the last ten years has gone downhill. I miss the SNES/Genesis days.
I think this has to do with several things:
- People in the past mostly played for challenge. Because that's all games were in the past. Simple, short and sometimes brutally difficult games. It was all about the gameplay, because that was the only thing developers could do back then.
- When technology advanced, story driven games became possible. I think a lot of people who would never touch an 80s game suddenly became interested in videogames because of storytelling. A lot of people don't want challenging games, they just want an experience.
- People may only like one aspect of a game. I know a few people who bought Resident Evil 5 only for The Mercenaries, and ignored the main game.
So when old school gamers see that there are a lot of story driven games today, they tend to say things like "games were better in the past" or "that's not even a real game, it's an interactive movie". I think you have to be open minded to the fact that people have very different tastes. Maybe a dad likes Super Mario Odyssey because he can play with his son, not because the game has greatly designed levels.
As long as there are games for everyone, I don't think people should complain. If we get to a situation where certain kinds of games stop existing, then we have a problem. But right now, there's something for every taste out there, which is a result of the vastly expanded videogame market compared to the 80s.
- People in the past mostly played for challenge. Because that's all games were in the past. Simple, short and sometimes brutally difficult games. It was all about the gameplay, because that was the only thing developers could do back then.
- When technology advanced, story driven games became possible. I think a lot of people who would never touch an 80s game suddenly became interested in videogames because of storytelling. A lot of people don't want challenging games, they just want an experience.
- People may only like one aspect of a game. I know a few people who bought Resident Evil 5 only for The Mercenaries, and ignored the main game.
So when old school gamers see that there are a lot of story driven games today, they tend to say things like "games were better in the past" or "that's not even a real game, it's an interactive movie". I think you have to be open minded to the fact that people have very different tastes. Maybe a dad likes Super Mario Odyssey because he can play with his son, not because the game has greatly designed levels.
As long as there are games for everyone, I don't think people should complain. If we get to a situation where certain kinds of games stop existing, then we have a problem. But right now, there's something for every taste out there, which is a result of the vastly expanded videogame market compared to the 80s.
Bkdk
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Kind of agree, I spent 60-70% of my time playing games come out at least a few years ago. Until AI and physics really show significant improvement I guess I won’t be buying many new games. On the other hand, I spend a lot less in recent years for gaming though, so a little bit more money saved can’t be a bad thing, once those technology shows significant advancement I’ll be spending loads on Both hardware and games again. All I plan to do now I upgrade my pc in 2021 and wait till ps6 gen.
Also found myself watching many more walkthroughs for newer games, able to skip many boring repetitive and super linear gameplay actually make me enjoy the game far more.
Also found myself watching many more walkthroughs for newer games, able to skip many boring repetitive and super linear gameplay actually make me enjoy the game far more.
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-Arcadia-
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Extremely underrated point. Games that focus on fun, addictive, pure gameplay, tend to win big. Even games like CoD are most loved for their multiplayer component, which is all gameplay.
Kadayi
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Take a break from gaming for a bit OP. Gaming is a demanding hobby mentally and it's all too easy to get caught up with this idea that because it's what you've traditionally done to unwind that it doesn't come with its own issues. I get burnt out on gaming every so often, and I've gotten into the habit of generally taking a break in between games, especially big ones to just decompress for a bit before picking up a controller/M&K again. Last game I completed was Disco Elysium and that was more than a week ago. Since then I've watched a little Death Stranding Footage or just caught up with a bunch of TV series that have come out. I'm probably going to get back into something over the weekend from the backlog on Sunday I feel, but it's not the end of the world if that doesn't happen. Earlier in the year I was feeling burnt out and didn't play anything for a couple of months. Let your mojo recharge.
Life
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They are better - but they're more similar to older games than they are better. The good games are the ones that replicate older games and are well polished. They're given praise for this and usually get 8 or 9 out of 10.
Can you imagine playing the "same" games for 20 years +?
HaveButOneLife
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ALTTP was the last good Zelda game? OoT is my favorite, and Majora's Mask, TWW, and Twilight Princess also exist.
Nintendo makes the most fun games. Not because they focus primarily on gameplay, that's just one reason.
VertigoOA
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Nor is there any kind of tangible metric.
of course the age of video game discovery as a child is great. It was fucking mind blowing at times... but you know what? I keep finding new and different experiences that blow my mind again. Just not from the same places...
Majora’s Mask -> Botw.
Nintendo does NOT make the most fun games. That’s just fanboy drivel.
of course the age of video game discovery as a child is great. It was fucking mind blowing at times... but you know what? I keep finding new and different experiences that blow my mind again. Just not from the same places...
Majora’s Mask -> Botw.
Nintendo does NOT make the most fun games. That’s just fanboy drivel.
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ROMhack
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I think the problem is there's too many games without any of them being unique.. which is not really a bad thing except the tension it creates in thinking you must play them. The money involved in the industry now - in addition to media spunking - has created this loop of apparent masterpieces when gaming is still only something that should be part of your overall hobbies.
A few years ago, I had a thought that there's only 2 or 3 good games released each year. The rest are ignorable unless you're in the mood for something specific (e.g. a puzzle game or RPG).
A few years ago, I had a thought that there's only 2 or 3 good games released each year. The rest are ignorable unless you're in the mood for something specific (e.g. a puzzle game or RPG).
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hariseldon
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You should get a pc (doesn’t even need to be a particularly powerful one either for those).
HaveButOneLife
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No, it's because games back then were simply better. Period. No corporate greed that's near the magnitude of today's standard MTX garbage, no GAAS, etc. Saying Nintendo's games are more fun isn't even "fAnBoY dRiVeL", it actually has truth to it. The more whimsical the games the more charming and fun they are, and they don't even need voice acting, they make their games speak for themselves. They're all basic stories without dumb set pieces or realistic mechanics, they just put you in a game and have you running around jumping on platforms, managing a town, or catching little monsters inside a ball. Sure Nintendo's my favorite company because to me they make the best games, but fanboyism? Don't be disingenuous.
Majora's Mask > Breath of the Wild.
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hariseldon
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There are certainly eras of high and low quality. Consider the 70s for film for instance, pure unadulterated quality dripping from so many extraordinary movies, in part due to some of the all time greats being there at the peak of their powers, and no doubt in part a product of limitations (I firmly believe that limitation breeds creativity as people push against that limitation) of tech at the time. Now too many films are CGI demos, then you have the design by committee to appease the Chinese and the woke. The good news is the old movies are still there and easily accessible, so five in and have fun. And in the meantime, keep an eye out in case an awesome film comes along (eg Joker, 3 billboards).
Music is also in a rut right now, as proved by the success of Ed Sheeran who honestly belongs on radio 2. Same rules apply here too.
Games, at least at AAA level, are awful. Designed around micro transactions, games as a service, glueing your eyeballs to the screen to get a bigger share of the game pass pie, trapped like a rat in a cage on antibiotics. But unlike film, there’s a wealth of good shit out there. Kingdom Come Deliverance and Disco Elysium for instance are the greatest games I’ve played and both came out relatively recently. If you want silly fun there’s Yakuza (which is brilliant btw). There’s a world of awesome adventure games being made by small teams. There’s loads of good stuff out there.
Finally, don’t discount your backlog. There’ll be a tonne of good stuff in there. I’ve been playing exclusively backlog games (apart from breaking the rules for Disco Elysium because it’s amazing) and I’ve had an absolute blast this year, thanks for the thread and the inspiration
DunDunDunpachi
, honestly I was getting tired of games but slowing down and looking at all the great games I bounced off in the past has given games a new lease of life for me.Btw to the people who hate books - go read To Kill A Mockingbird. You’ll change your mind.
brian0057
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I hear you. I can count with one hand the number of games I enjoy each year.
That's why recently I've been playing a lot of older titles like the Resident Evil remake, Daggerfall, the Thief trilogy, Deus Ex, and others.
That's why recently I've been playing a lot of older titles like the Resident Evil remake, Daggerfall, the Thief trilogy, Deus Ex, and others.
Video games are not art.
DESTROYA
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Here we go it’s the weekly complaint from
SlashBringingHasher
, I knew the thread was yours just by looking at the title.
There are so many games today then ever before, find what you like and play those instead of lumping em all together.
And yes this is all you.
SlashBringingHasher
, I knew the thread was yours just by looking at the title.There are so many games today then ever before, find what you like and play those instead of lumping em all together.
And yes this is all you.
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Yoshi
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Many games are like that, op, but that's not true in general. Super Mario Odyssey, Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair, Team Sonic Racing, Ori and the Blind Forrest, Cuphead, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Sonic Mania, Luigi's Mansion 3, Yoshi's Crafted World, Super Mario Maker 2 are just some recent non-Indie examples I have played that I can attest to not being like you said at all.
jonnyp
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Games are still fun, your threads however....
