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Games for Windows Live shutting down July 1, 2014.
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Ironically, that worked out so well for them eh?
WhatRobEats said:
lolwut? You can finish Dark Souls within a day if you know where you're going. If not a week of trial and error maybe. It's a pretty short game once you get everything together and/or read the wiki's and spoiler yourself. A year is more than generous for the online play for the PC version and double so before the community nose-dives possibly with DaS2 releasing in a year.
alexandros
Banned
No purchase is 100% safe. Even if you buy retail your disc might get scratched, you might lose it or break it, the console might break down and so on. I mainly buy games from Steam and GOG because they are the safest bets, Steam is huge and the market leader and GoG offers DRM-free games. I only buy games elsewhere when the games are Steamworks or DRM-free because I can't trust these companies to stick with their service in the long run.
I bought some gfwl games, some of which I might not be able to play anymore. I also lost a couple of games when Direct2Drive changed hands. I consider it a lesson to only trust companies with a proven track record in doing right by the consumer.
They seriously needed to do a fire sale, like, a week ago.
Achievements, online components (multiplayer/leader boards).
Just basically similar to the system things provided on the Xbox 360 but on pc. I liked it for that reason as I thought it was stupid to pay for a gold membership, and so the things I was barred from playing with on the 360 I was able to do for free through g4wl.
The writing has been on the wall ever since AoE2HD released with Steamworks. As for the games, I'm assuming online-heavy stuff will be screwed (like AoEO), but I'm waiting for an official announcement to worry about anything else. Given how easy it is to disable/bypass GFWL DRM (pirates have been doing it for 6 years) I don't imagine it'll be an issue for SP games.
Regardless of the drama, this needs to happen.
Regardless of the drama, this needs to happen.
The fact Epic thought so little of the PC not to bring Gears 2 and 3 to it makes me very concerned they just say screw it and not do anything to patch out the GFWL in Gears 1.
I wonder if Microsoft will hold a funeral like they did for the iPhone.
Wow. I knew MS was arrogant, but THIS??? /facepalm
EDIT: So is this Microsoft's version of "Mission Accomplished"?
I wonder if Microsoft will hold a funeral like they did for the iPhone.
Why didn't Google attend the funeral?
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
If you are in it for the multiplayer, like me, its a good move. Invasions and summons are constant on the PS3 at the right levels and in the right areas, although the quality of the connection can suffer against foreign players.
I hear (but haven't experienced) that the PC version is relatively less populated. Of course, thats exactly the kind of thing that might change if they switched from GFWL to steamworks...
Fixed it for you. Steam is the best thing to happen in PC gaming in the last decade.
It's just the digital marketplace correcting itself, as it's still in its infancy and evolving. Inferior services will die out, good services will flourish.
Syphon Filter
Member
MS was never serious with it. i rather not waste space in my house with cases and cds,also disks rot.
I am 100% into digital. GFWL is just shitty digital. I am 100% Steam whenever possible.
Felix Lighter
Member
ahh never mind!
There's some truth to it, but it's also why going HELL YEAH LET'S GO ALL IN FUCK YOU LUDDITES is incredibly FUCKING stupid. Add more digital options, get people used to the idea, see how everyone treats stuff going from generation to generation, AND maybe I'll be more trusting of an all digital future. Vita and PS4 were handling it correctly I thought, while the original XB1 plans were an abomination, an awkward compromise that pleased a very specific handful of people and fucked over everyone else. And from a company known to drop this stuff at practically the drop of a hat.
Perhaps to some, but it's a terrible DRM client.
Syphon Filter
Member
Not bad at all.
Thank goodness.
Night_Trekker
Member
Apparently, Dark SoulstD for PC will be patched to replace GFWL with Steamworks before the shutdown in 2014:
Source:
https://twitter.com/VaatiVidya/status/369651110891372544
Oh thank Christ!
I'm still pissed off about this news, but that's good to know.
EDIT: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME
you might want to read a bit more of the thread, I've got some bad news for you.
edit: yeah
AzureSkies
Member
the only thing I can think about
IrishNinja
Member
wow, looks like i'll not be double-dipping on Dark Souls after all...might be time to back up Viva Pinata as well. really is a shame on some of these titles, hopefully lessons are being learned here
ps origin still doesn't do screenshots? wow
ps origin still doesn't do screenshots? wow
If the GfWL service dies completely, you can create an offline profile.
I'm not sure how keys work for those. Normally, if you're entering a key for the first time, and it can't connect to the servers to verify, it'll ask you to enter it again the next time you load. You might have to copy/paste the key every time.
Szaromir has a very staunch anti-DRM stance.
CharmingCharlie
Member
Ugh that is just so god damn low brow and crass words fail me (and I am not even a fan of Apple).
I am interested to see what will happen with GTA 4 though with regards to GFWL. The game still sells incredibly well during the Steam sales but with GFWL being taken out back and shot that means multiplayer will no longer work in GTA 4. Sure people can still play single player (with a user generated mod) but no multiplayer might put a few off.
I'm sure almost all of these games will get patched officially.
Even if some don't, people will just create cracks. (which I figure are most likely already out there.)
The Dow2 multiplayer modes are all in the stand-alone expansion DoW2: Retribution that already uses steamworks anyway.
The only thing lost would be the single-player content.
I think DoW2 will almost certainly be patched anyway given that Relic just inserted steamworks into the original Company of Heroes.
Even if some don't, people will just create cracks. (which I figure are most likely already out there.)
The Dow2 multiplayer modes are all in the stand-alone expansion DoW2: Retribution that already uses steamworks anyway.
The only thing lost would be the single-player content.
I think DoW2 will almost certainly be patched anyway given that Relic just inserted steamworks into the original Company of Heroes.
If...
Red Dead also supposed to be on pc... Rockstar is behaving weird after gta4 release.
You can crack it. You won't be able to play online and and see other people ghosts or messages
I don't think it was considering the spaghetti code, but pretty much everything they've done after Red Dead has gone on PC and they were recently hiring for more PC developers.
I believe there's a save backup feature built into DSFix.
The latest one is Steamworks.
Nobody knows, they haven't officially announced anything yet.
Are you kidding me? Are they insane? Will they really KILL legitimately purchased games? They better come up with some way for these games to remain playable...
Online portion of games becoming unplayable sucks major balls in some cases. A relative and I only bought RE5 and Fable 3 because of the co-op and I'm unsure if he'll be available to play those with me before the service dies.
I have other games in the affected list in which I only care about the single player, so hopefully there won't be trouble with those. I honestly can't believe devs will just leave the games that require a GFWL login to be permanently broken while still being sold, as there are also revenue reasons involved. I wonder how resource consuming it can be to move online features to Steamworks, like it's seemingly going to happen with the Batman games and Bioshock 2.
I already kept a watchful eye on MS for all their dubious decisions but this is the kind of sloppy "lol bye" thing I don't expect from a big company. Granted, I don't know if they're providing any sort of help with patching the products but yeah, not holding my breath.
I have other games in the affected list in which I only care about the single player, so hopefully there won't be trouble with those. I honestly can't believe devs will just leave the games that require a GFWL login to be permanently broken while still being sold, as there are also revenue reasons involved. I wonder how resource consuming it can be to move online features to Steamworks, like it's seemingly going to happen with the Batman games and Bioshock 2.
I already kept a watchful eye on MS for all their dubious decisions but this is the kind of sloppy "lol bye" thing I don't expect from a big company. Granted, I don't know if they're providing any sort of help with patching the products but yeah, not holding my breath.
You can probably crack them so that you can play single player although I am not sure if that will require making a new save game. Multiplayer is dead unless the game is patched.
How do you play offline? When I choose my offline account, it just tells me:
If I say yes, it wants you to create a LIVE account.
If I say no, it returns to the login-screen with the message:
There's no way to play this game without logging in with a LIVE-account. I guess we'll all have to pirate this game after July 2014.