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Games with the worst lore?
- Thread starter Fury451
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Seriously. Halo is some of the best imho.
JeffAtomsky
Banned
El Shaddai
I've barely ever play halo, but the most interesting part of it for me is definitly it's lore so I would have to agree.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Bomberman Act Zero
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I don't even mind the Animus stuff. It's a silly and a bit unnecessary, but I think it's largely harmless. And it could have paid off well if it weren't for
ya know, the Desmond thing.
MGS until 3 had a very consistent lore. Then 4 tried to come with answers for nearly everything that happened earlier in the series,
I loved PW and V as well (there, I said it), but don't get me started on them.
Also, Kingdom Hearts has the potential to have a good lore, but the franchise is buried under a writing that manages to be worst than Kojima's, IMO.
which I actually like, but I do recognize it's a complete clusterfuck.
I loved PW and V as well (there, I said it), but don't get me started on them.
Also, Kingdom Hearts has the potential to have a good lore, but the franchise is buried under a writing that manages to be worst than Kojima's, IMO.
plasmawave
Banned
Mass Effect. Oof.
If we can agree that Halo's lore was mainly delivered by that Origins Anime (Halo Legends), then yes absolutely. The lore I experienced in the games was lackluster.
RiderKairuu
Member
The Kingdom Hearts lore is not that hard to understand, there's a boy named Sora and everyone is Sora.
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I love KH but it's KH
PetulantChild
Banned
343 Halo. The fact that they explained the Forerunners and Flood were bad enough, but to make them so lame, goofy, and uninteresting is worse. Not to mention the absurdity of ONIs mustache twirling villainy that they've now injected.
Dice//
Banned
Yep.
It's interesting sometimes and dramatic....but drawn out, complicated, and so loosely "Disney" I can't really wrap my head around it and appreciate it other than just enjoying it for the wild ride.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Destiny
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
Assassin's Creed lore is total BS.
The funny thing is that Halo story is still easy as fuck to follow in terms of the lore. (I'm talking everything not just the games.) It's hardly convoluted. Then again people consider a lot of stuff that isn't convoluted, convoluted.
The Victorian
Neo Member
Dragon Age.
Take the most hackneyed, cliched, well-worn High Fantasy setting imaginable, coat it in a thin layer of that dark-and-gritty-with-a-side-of-titty-whore-n'-gore fantasy that's all the rage these days, shamelessly nick WH40K's magic system, and you've got the essence of Dragon Age. Absolutely nothing about it is original or compelling in the slightest.
Take the most hackneyed, cliched, well-worn High Fantasy setting imaginable, coat it in a thin layer of that dark-and-gritty-with-a-side-of-titty-whore-n'-gore fantasy that's all the rage these days, shamelessly nick WH40K's magic system, and you've got the essence of Dragon Age. Absolutely nothing about it is original or compelling in the slightest.
Solidsoul
Banned
I disagree.
I've read all the books and followed all of the lore, I understand it but that doesn't mean it's not convoluted. It isn't easy to follow, and that by definition is convoluted.
I can't count how many people I've had to explain Halo to. Most people I've met played them and had a blast but really didn't know what was going on.
Zombegoast
Member
Yes until 343I got their hands on it.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
It didn't pretend to be anything, there was(and still is) a genuinely interesting framing device for what we call video games and the gameplay systems, like controlling a character, a HUD, character customization, there being a convenient haystack whenever you want to perform a leap of faith, npcs that look similar, cheat codes, glitches, etc, other games have no narrative excuse for these things, AC however does.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Agreed with AssCreed, Gears of War, MGS, and Dragon Age. For all the reasons already listed so far.
I'll add Kingdom of Amalur too. Really bland and uber-generic fantasy with very little of interest going on. Even Dragon's Dogma, with its super-generic setting and monsters borrowed from D&D and from traditional Euro mythology, managed to be more creative about it.
I'll add Kingdom of Amalur too. Really bland and uber-generic fantasy with very little of interest going on. Even Dragon's Dogma, with its super-generic setting and monsters borrowed from D&D and from traditional Euro mythology, managed to be more creative about it.
User 73706
Banned
Frog Fractions.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
You really don't stop huh
I'm playing Remember Me right now, and while I really love the game itself and the whole aesthetic, I haven't read a single piece of history or anything. It's hilariously stupid and unbelievable with this "SenSen" device which records your memories for a corproration called "Memorize" etc.... It's so dumb, almost in a lovable way, though. It's clear they put a ton of work into fleshing out the world, but the initial idea is just so stupid that it, unfortunately, was kind of all for nothing.
Assassin's Creed is a big one - I really couldn't give a fuck about any of the templar / assassin shit whatsever. Get all that outta my face and give me a big world to run around in.
Lastly I'm gonna say Dragon Age. Yeah I know people get all into this shit but it felt like COMPLETELY derivative western fantasy, mostly inspired by Tolkien, and offering nothing that I (as a seasoned tabletop roleplayer and fantasy reader) hadn't seen done a thousand times before, and done better. The few ideas that were cool were done a terrible disservice by their presentation in the game world, anyway. "These aren't orcs - they're DARKSPAWN!" Even just hearing the nouns from that game (Grey Warden, Ferelden, Dalish) makes me yawn. Don't get me wrong I appreciate how fleshed out the setting is - the amount of detail is quite impressive - but none of the ideas are interesting to start with so....
Assassin's Creed is a big one - I really couldn't give a fuck about any of the templar / assassin shit whatsever. Get all that outta my face and give me a big world to run around in.
Lastly I'm gonna say Dragon Age. Yeah I know people get all into this shit but it felt like COMPLETELY derivative western fantasy, mostly inspired by Tolkien, and offering nothing that I (as a seasoned tabletop roleplayer and fantasy reader) hadn't seen done a thousand times before, and done better. The few ideas that were cool were done a terrible disservice by their presentation in the game world, anyway. "These aren't orcs - they're DARKSPAWN!" Even just hearing the nouns from that game (Grey Warden, Ferelden, Dalish) makes me yawn. Don't get me wrong I appreciate how fleshed out the setting is - the amount of detail is quite impressive - but none of the ideas are interesting to start with so....
Mr. Smiley
Member
I won't say it's bad, but Elder Scrolls is... rough to get into.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Advance Wars.
Do the soldiers even know what they are fighting for?
Why are they always so happy about it?
What government and/or nation do they represent?
DO THEY THINK THIS IS JUST A GAME?!
What are the COs even fighting for?
Do the soldiers even know what they are fighting for?
Why are they always so happy about it?
What government and/or nation do they represent?
DO THEY THINK THIS IS JUST A GAME?!
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Resident Evil does not respect the term "suspension of disbelief" at all. It worked fine for the B-movie horror vibe it had in the first three games or so, and then again in RE4 since it was isolated from the rest of the series in many ways, but the overarching story from Code Veronica on has snowballed into something completely nonsensical, even by B-movie horror standards.
It's supposedly the real, normal world, and each game has spies, secret organizations, monstrous B.O.W.s, organizations created specifically to fight said B.O.W.s (many of them), comic book villains, and, worst of all, terrible dialogue
Although said dialogue works in favor of these two
It's supposedly the real, normal world, and each game has spies, secret organizations, monstrous B.O.W.s, organizations created specifically to fight said B.O.W.s (many of them), comic book villains, and, worst of all, terrible dialogue
Although said dialogue works in favor of these two
This and Halo for me
Dangansona
Member
Lol I think that is the best way of putting it.
People saying MGS obviously haven't played KH. MGS all makes sense to me, even if I can't remember it all.
PetulantChild
Banned
Yes. Just Yes. The original Halo trilogy had a sense of mystery about it when it came to the Forerunner and Flood. 343 decided to throw that away so the Flood could be generic bioweapon instead of a creepy extragalactic hivemind entity like the Zerg and the forerunners could be space wizards that looked like Voldemort. Don't even get me started on the idiocy of making 343GS a human.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I'm addressing the "it's the worst framing device" thing. People aren't actually justifying that stance, meanwhile i'm justifying mine and how it works and why it continues to be used and expanded upon as the series progresses. So by all means address the points made instead of this driveby nonsense.
How doesn't it do these things?
//ARCANUM
Member
KINGDOM HEARTS: You haven't kept up with every single spinoff game spanning multiple platforms and various remakes, expansions, etc, and haven't replayed each game 3 times? F YOU BUDDY. GOOD LUCK.
Edit - for real though I won't be buying KH3 because I know I'll have ZERO clue what's happening.
Edit - for real though I won't be buying KH3 because I know I'll have ZERO clue what's happening.
Spieler Eins
Member
When Sonic turned 3D and tried to be serious.
FriedConsole
Banned
Came to say this. It is nothing but endless small talk between characters.
I love the gameplay, but yeah, in Advance Wars war is essentially treated like Pokemon Battles.
funkystudent
Member
The one about the extinct ancient alien race who left powerful technology behind. With the "chosen one" special snowflake main character and bad guys with a weird vage religious themed back story.
Aaaaah good ol' Xenogears.
timetokill
Banned
That's why they made Days of Ruin.
Here you go with this sense of mystery again.. The flood aren't just a generic bio weapon not even close they are so much more complex than what you're making them.
343 answered questions and expanded the lore on the Forerunners and gave us a look into their culture how is this a bad thing? Were they supposed to stay a shrouded in mystery for all of eternity because Bungie said so, what the hell do we gain from that?
No they aren't perfect but what "god" race is they were flawed just like us that made them real.
And why is GS being an ancient human an issue again please enlighten me.