When most people talk about gaming monitors they mean the really high refresh rate/1ms kind used for fast paced multiplayer FPS. What about monitors for people who want good color accuracy and picture quality? I've noticed that "gaming monitors" look horribly washed out when it comes to colors. Are there affordable monitors that have good response time but have anything close to a plasma in color or PQ? I use a plasma for console gaming but I need a new monitor for my PC and I might also play some PS4 using the monitor. My future PC build isn't going to aim for anything higher than 60fps most of the time so I don't need really high refresh rates. Before anyone mentions gsync, I still don't know if I'm going Nvidia or if those monitors will even be affordable.
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"Gaming" Monitors
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Korean as in... Samsung?
HUELEN10
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Korean as in "Catleap & Friends".
Astral/H3X
Member
Nah they are these random Korean company's monitors... they use the same panels as the Apple displays/Samsung's monitors, so it doesn't really matter much. There's a few quirks to them, someone will slap a post about em shortly I imagine.
with 5ms latency?
I believe it's between 7 and 10ms
This doesn't exist and if it did, it would cost at least 1K. For perspective, Asus has a 27" 1440p 144hz gsync TN coming and it's $700.
To the OP...just look up catleap or google Korean monitors.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Why not use your plasma? I use a 50" Panasonic S60 as my only monitor. Great IQ, and good latency.
IllumiNate
Member
Wait until April and get the ROG Swift PG278Q or the PB287Q
SAMSUNG's 120Hz like S23A750D / 700D / 900D, but it's not made anymore.
Really impressive colors for a TN imo.
Also your 'Gaming' panels might just be cheap TNs with 0 calibration to minimize input or whatever. Some of the IPS panels are fine for 1080p/60FPS in the PC Thread.
If price isn't a concern getting a Korean (Qnix, Catleap) 1440p IPS and overclocking it to 85Hz is probably the way to go. Search Overclock.net
I don't think Plasma and good latency go in the same sentence when the topic is talking about PC monitors and 85+Hz
Image retention dude. You really shouldn't use a plasma with a PC where there will be static text a while. PIxel shifting will only do so much.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
34.1 isn't bad. I don't even notice it. I'm also not a MLG pro FPS player.
I just run the screen wipe every once in a while, it's fine. I used my old samsung plasma for years as a pc monitor and never experienced any image retention.
Compared to a typical good PC monitor, 35ms is like 700% worse.
I've been using a Panasonic plasma as my only PC monitor since I bought it in October of 2010. Image retention is a concern, but if you treat them right it's a pretty amazing set up. Panasonic plasmas are great for latency, at least the majority of them are.
I've actually tried overclocking it a few times with no success.
I've actually tried overclocking it a few times with no success.
ipitydatfu
Member
When you say latency, is that the same as input lag?
adamantypants
Member
Am I the only person who doesn't want a monitor bigger than 24"? Seems that high end monitors only come in behemoth size.
thunder_snail
Member
Get 1440p only if you have a powerful enough PC to run games at that resolution. 1080p games look horrible on it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121221666168
I just bought this. I'm not sure if it can OC like the Qnix and more expensive monitors, but the out-of-the-box colors are amazing. I think the design is really good, considering the cost.
Once I got my 27 inch monitor I could not go back to the 24 inch ones, the additional space for organization really helps as well.
That's like, the furthest from the truth.
A ton of high end monitors sit at ~24" at 1080p and 120-144hz.
Pretty sure the latest Korean IPS monitors come in all kinds of varieties with various improvements.
There's IPS and then PLS, and different variations of each.
quantumnerd
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Bear in mind that while people like to cite pixel response time, IPS panels have pretty bad latency. A TN panel generally has ~16ms total latency, whereas an IPS panel tends to have around 50ms total latency. That's the difference (at 60FPS) between one frame of lag and three.
I feel you, though -- I go for responsive panels since I game, but the color inaccuracy is killing me.
I feel you, though -- I go for responsive panels since I game, but the color inaccuracy is killing me.
Yes there is. I love my Samsung S27B970D.
I can overclock it to 85Hz but I don't think the difference is big enough so I just keep it at 60Hz.
Eh, MGR:R @1080p 8xMSAA looked pretty good. But often I have to play games on medium settings because I only have a GTX 660.
edit: actually it is a PLS monitor, my mistake.
I want this too man. Trying to hold out getting a new monitor until this exact thing exists.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Honestly, there's enough monitor tech coming out in the next few months that buying a new one now seems like a terrible idea. As it stands, you're still going to have to make major compromises with just about every monitor out there.
That really depends on a lot of things, though, most of it signal processing. On a lot of a IPS models, you can just turn it into game mode which cuts down on latency by a whole lot.
thunder_snail
Member
It's the scaling that really blurs out the pixels. I actually have a dual monitor setup, one being a 27" 1080p monitor and one being a 27" 1440p monitor. I use the nvidia scaler which is slightly better than the built in scaler in the 1440p monitor but it still gives that vaseline look. I can sharpen the picture to get rid of the blur but then I end up with horrible haloing.
Samsung monitors may have better scalers though since they make quality TV's as well.
Viewing PDF's on 1440p monitors is quite amazing though.
Have any VA monitors to recommend?
Derpcrawler
Member
Do you need DisplayPort connection to overclock monitors? I tried with Dual Link DVI on my Dell U2713HM, any value above 60Hz causes stutter. Or is U2713HM not overclockable?
Definitely can't go for the Eizo. I won't spend more than $300. I'm stuck between IPS or VA at the moment. I want low input lag and fast response time but not at the cost of color accuracy that TN has.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Anything with a refresh rate under 120hz is completely worthless as a gaming monitor.
Why? If I'm playing at 60 fps or using a console at 30 fps what difference will it make?
Derpcrawler
Member
Good luck getting 120FPS in 1440p with good IQ in any recent games.
doniewhalberg
Member
Got a VG23AH. Really happy with it. IT's 1080p, 60hz. If you're not looking for more OP, it's a good way to go.
Sanctuary
Member
There are plenty of IPS monitors that are 15ms or faster at 60hz anyway. IPS is when you don't want horribly shitty dithering because your head shifted an inch to the side, or want a screen that can double as a stand in movie screen. The downside? They cost slightly more than TN. The speed difference is only a factor when you go up to 120hz and beyond.
Funny how plenty of people (the majority in fact) are playing on "worthless" gaming monitors just fine. It's not as drastic of a difference as going from 30fps to 60fps.
Those Korean IPS panels aren't bad. I was able to overclock mine to 110hz. Wasn't able to reach 120hz though. You have to be careful because a lot of these panels have dead pixels. I suppose I was lucky in that I don't have any dead pixels but I do have some light bleed coming from the bottom of my monitor. Also, the power adapter that was sent alongside was doa. I recommend reading this thread over at overclock.net.
Edit:
I see Alo81 posted the same link. Good job!
Edit:
I see Alo81 posted the same link. Good job!
Hip Hop
Member
Yeah, I seriously could not go back to it.
After being an owner of a144hz monitor, refresh rate is my number one priority.\
I seriously thought my computer was broken when I had a 60hz monitor. Every game going above 60fps was unbearable to me.
Duebrithil
Member
Any good options (i.e good refresh rate, input lag, etc) for both console and PC gaming in the 24-32" range?
GamingIsDead
Member
It's a shame it isn't. i have the S27A750D color output is better then ips monitors i have tried. 120hz i quite possible the single best upgrade i have ever done for pc.
It's not even about the frame rate even. Everything just feel very smooth and responsive and i can't explain why but i never really have vsync issue's anymore.
Soodanim
Gold Member
I think I'm, in a sense, quite lucky in that I haven't had the luxury of seeing decent monitors side by side. My monitor is TN, and I don't think I have ever seen an IPS, at least not next to a TN. Similarly, I have never seen an120/144hz monitor. But regardless of whether I get bone or not, I really want to see one next to a 60hz. Preferably it'd be an in-game comparison. I known you can see slowed down videos on YouTube, but that's not the same as seeing it full speed.
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