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[EmCeeGramr]

god e3 2005 was such a terrible time

someone post warhawk and gundam, we need that discussion all over again

 

[The Crimson Kid]

 

[jett]

A classic:

Default photoshop lens flare ftw

 

[ScOULaris]

Also, my vote goes to Killzone (PS2). All the talk about it using NURBS instead of polygons and the massive hyperbole about the game's graphics from gaming press that got to see it behind closed doors ended up being a bunch of bullshit. The final product ended up looking somewhat decent, but nowhere near the polished, AAA-grade presentation that we'd been primed for up until release.

 

[Platy]

CG target renders count as bullshots?

That's pretty much the definition of a bullshot.... specialy if the game fails miserably to reach the "target"

 

[Lion Heart]

Why couldn't Kojima just keep those F-in colours, for gods sake.

[IG]http://www.gamikaze.pl/Resources/Images/GameGalleries/Xbox_Galerie_Gears_of_War_3_Xbox_360_Galeria_5_31107_1805_21072010.jpg[/IMG]

We got a winner.

 

[D4Danger]

someone in marketing approved this.

 

[jett]

Also, my vote goes to Killzone (PS2). All the talk about it using NURBS instead of polygons and the massive hyperbole about the game's graphics from gaming press that got to see it behind closed doors ended up being a bunch of bullshit. The final product ended up looking somewhat decent, but nowhere near the polished, AAA-grade presentation that we'd been primed for up until release.

Killzone on the PS2 looks just like those pictures you posted though, just with more jaggies I guess.

 

[Backfoggen]

Killing Day - Ubisoft - 2005 - Fake Shit

Haha, I remember getting excited about this shit. Ubisoft were the worst bullshitters around the launch of the current-gen consoles.

 

[ScOULaris]

Killzone on the PS2 looks just like those pictures you posted though, just with more jaggies I guess.

The pictures showcase motion blur and AA that weren't present in the game, and they fail to communicate the god-awful framerate, terrible pop-in, and abysmal animation in the final product.

 

[Neuromancer]

Killzone on the PS2 looks just like those pictures you posted though, just with more jaggies I guess.

Yeah I was about to say, pretty close to the mark. (I really liked that game btw.)

 

[jett]

The pictures showcase motion blur and AA that weren't present in the game, and they fail to communicate the god-awful framerate, terrible pop-in, and abysmal animation in the final product.

Uh there's motion blur in the game when you run, as for the other things you mentioned...you fail at this thread.

 

[overthehill99]

Killzone looked amazing for a PS2 game. Just like those screen shots. What really killed it was the whole game ran at about 20FPS, and rarely ever got to 30. Made the amazing visuals not worth it at all. Not really sure how developers are suppose to portray a shitty frame rate in screens.

 

[MDSLKTR]

This one is easy!

 

[derFeef]

Never forget:

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

^ What is this?

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

Alan Wake PC build

Could have easily looked like that

 

[DangerStepp]

Never forget:
[/IMG]

What is that?

 

[ShapeGSX]

Still love the face of the guy in the back on the turret.

 

[fernoca]

A classic:

Default photoshop lens flare ftw

This!
First game that came to mind. I still remember the backlash and Microsoft saying about how it was "common" to use Photoshop too.

 

[Darklord]

Never forget:

^ What is this?

What is that?

It seems we have forgotten.

 

[Erebus]

DOA2 Hardcore
by far the worst offender.

The Bullshots looked like:

The actual game looked like:

Dreamcast vs PS2?

 

[ukresistance]

Liar

 

[Lionheart1827]

Still love the face of the guy in the back on the turret.

Haha I always wondered what that face was from.

 

[JaggedSac]

I came in expecting some Forza and Alan Wake shots, left only somewhat satisfied.

 

[Raide]

^ What is this?

Unreal 2 I think.

 

[electristan]

It seems we have forgotten.

I thinks its Unreal II

Beaten

 

[EmCeeGramr]

I remember people flipping the hell out when an EGM had that second screenshot with the tail.

 

[derFeef]

It seems we have forgotten.

Unreal 2, sheesh. It was retouched and all the shadows were added. It got busted and Epic made an official statement about it (Mark Rein said sorry - but added the final game will even look better)

 

[Why For?]

Dreamcast vs PS2?

Think so.

I have pretty much every version of DOA, and haven't seen or noticed jaggies in any of them.

I have DOA2 on DC, DOA Ultimate and 3 on Xbox and 4 on 360. No jaggies in sight.

 

[Dabanton]

Dreamcast vs PS2?

I was going to say the Xbox version looked very good.

The PS2 version on the other hand...

 

[Erebus]

Think so.

I have pretty much every version of DOA, and haven't seen or noticed jaggies in any of them.

I have DOA2 on DC, DOA Ultimate and 3 on Xbox and 4 on 360. No jaggies in sight.

I remember DOA2 on DC having a much better IQ than the PS2 version.

 

[SolsticeZero]

Think so.

I have pretty much every version of DOA, and haven't seen or noticed jaggies in any of them.

I have DOA2 on DC, DOA Ultimate and 3 on Xbox and 4 on 360. No jaggies in sight.

Yup. Instead of optimizing DoA2 for the PS2, they just cut back on it until it ran well. A god damned shame, really. I didn't have a Dreamcast, so I had to play the lessened PS2 version. But that's ok, because I shortly graduated to big boy fighting games.

 

[Rocwell]

Not exactly a bullshot per se, but certainly a trailer that will be remembered infamously.

MGS2 E3 2001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C14upMsuEFI&NR=1#t=3m22s

 

[Jack Random]

Dreamcast vs PS2?

I remember setting up a split screen comparison (TV at work had that ability) and laughing at how bad the PS2 version of that game looked next to the Dreamcast

 

[SamuraiX-]

Really, jett? I thought you and I already had this discussion.

Using the original MGS4 trailer from TGS 2005 as an example is pretty ridiculous considering Sony didn't even know the specs of their own gaming system back then.

 

[Haunted]

This thread was made for Codemasters.

Oh damn, I forgot about that.

(again, poor quality. I know someone took a better screenshot of that london building in the final version, and it was hilarious how big the difference was)

daaaaaaaaamn

 

[Buckethead]

Rockstar are masters of the bullshot.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

http://i.imgur.com/A09WX.jpg

someone in marketing approved this.

What, why?

 

[Tomcat]

Everything from codemasters LOL

 

[Haunted]

What, why?

Clearly modified contrast and sharpness settings.

But yeah, it doesn't really fit the thread as it doesn't make the game look much better than it actually does.

 

[Darklord]

Rockstar are masters of the bullshot.

That's how I remember it looking. :s

 

[SamBishop]

I'm not saying there aren't some pretty hilariously bad examples in this thread, but you guys do need to understand the difference between an in-engine screenshot mode that renders at super-high resolutions and throws on stuff like extra DOF or anti-aliasing or even just direct frame buffer grabs vs. something IGN or GameSpot captured over an analog signal.

Anything not being pulled directly from the console's frame buffer is going to look extra blurry, low-res and fucked up just as a result of capturing the output. It's the same reason many of these screen grabs don't looks as good as you might remember on your TV -- mainly because they don't.

Again, though, stuff like The Getaway or damn near anything 3DO ever put out are prime examples of complete and utter bullshit.

 

[BananaBomb]

That's how I remember it looking. :s

thats the joke?

maybe?

 

[webrunner]

Wasn't there a bullshot released for something that had errors, like, you could still see half of something that got photoshopped out?

I can't remember what game it was.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

I'm not saying there aren't some pretty hilariously bad examples in this thread, but you guys do need to understand the difference between an in-engine screenshot mode that renders at super-high resolutions and throws on stuff like extra DOF or anti-aliasing or even just direct frame buffer grabs vs. something IGN or GameSpot captured over an analog signal.

Anything not being pulled directly from the console's frame buffer is going to look extra blurry, low-res and fucked up just as a result of capturing the output. It's the same reason many of these screen grabs don't looks as good as you might remember on your TV -- mainly because they don't.

Again, though, stuff like The Getaway or damn near anything 3DO ever put out are prime examples of complete and utter bullshit.

I know!

But it's insanely hard to find non-emulated screenshots of older 3D console games that aren't captured over an analog signal. GameSpot is especially bad with that.

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

That's how I remember it looking. :s

If you were playing the pc version. PS2 version looks horrible.

 

[Apo]

 

[jett]

Really, jett? I thought you and I already had this discussion.

Using the original MGS4 trailer from TGS 2005 as an example is pretty ridiculous considering Sony didn't even know the specs of their own gaming system back then.

The trailer was complete bullshit, I don't remember ever talking to you to be honest.

deal with it

 

[owlbeak]

Seriously....Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising has to be the worst offender. EVERY official "screenshot" was total bullshit. I called bullshit on them when they came out, as did most everyone. I mean look at this shit:

Riiiight....