shouamabane
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I loved all these games when they came out. I just wish there was something that I haven't already played to death.
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GBA VC on Wii U starting April 3rd
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Sparrowhawk
Member
I'm sorry, but I believe that it's impossible to play Golden Sun to death.
moltonasty
Member
shouamabane
Member
I just wish GBA VC had the complete library. I loved my Gameboy Player.
I hope somebody at Capcom sees this. It's a great idea.
Sparrowhawk
Member
Yep, I had a Game Boy Player long before I had a GBA. Good times, just like the Super Game Boy.
Perhaps they didn't originally intend to offer anything other than GB and NES titles for their 3DS Virtual Console but found there might be a market for the content after jury-rigging titles in via the Ambassador program, but found people wouldn't buy them as they are in their jury-rigged form, tried to make it work, couldn't, and then decided "well, we did all this work trying to get them working proper on 3DS, why have it go to waste?" and decided to put them on Wii U instead.
We'll never know for sure. But if that is how it came about, I'd rather they existed on Wii U and future handhelds than not at all.
Not really sure if it was worth a thread and I didn't see much about it anywhere here. Apologies if old.
Yesterday, during the CVG stream, some features were shown of the GBA Virtual Console that very few seemed to actually notice.
Now, a friend of mine has done an article about it
http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2014/04/02/smoothing-resolution-manuals-guide-gba-virtual-console/
The Virtual Console for this has settings for the Original Resolution and smoothing of the screen, plus the manual can be displayed while playing.
They did well with this, from the looks of it.
Yesterday, during the CVG stream, some features were shown of the GBA Virtual Console that very few seemed to actually notice.
Now, a friend of mine has done an article about it
http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2014/04/02/smoothing-resolution-manuals-guide-gba-virtual-console/
The Virtual Console for this has settings for the Original Resolution and smoothing of the screen, plus the manual can be displayed while playing.
They did well with this, from the looks of it.
I'm not going to lie: that is a megaton and should be included with every Wii U game that supports Off-TV play.
El Sabroso
Member
yes, at least NES and SNES VC should be upgraded to use manual in one screen while playing in the other
Agreed. A bit sad that there wasn't a toggle for the colour issues, but I'm happy with these. I can imagine how blocky GBA games look on the TV and so the smoothing could be very useful on the eyes.
C00kie M0nster
Member
Any chance they go back and incorporate these features into the very small amount of releases they've put out so far? That'd be awesome.
iamaustrian
Member
2pm tomorrow is the usual time the eShop updates in Europe.
Japan should get it 2am UK time.
LegendofLex
Member
This.
If they do this, and the releases are forward-compatible, I will buy Nintendo consoles forever. Double kudos if they roll these features into digital versions of retail titles.
Do have to wonder why they didn't for the other ones, and why they're introducing it here.
A leading theory is that they no longer have the files for the ones pre-GBA.
LegendofLex
Member
Probably true, but I couldn't see why they wouldn't be able to recreate them. It's not like the contents don't exist. Still, I'd really love to see the quality of the old-school manuals reborn in digital / GamePad displayable form.
WrenchNinja
Member
It does matter quite a bit. Portable games have smaller scope and are designed around portability. Levels are shorter, for example in the Mario games. Why would I want to play this on a console over a fully reAlized Mario? Because I can carry this around with me and play it whenever I want. People have used this argument all of the time against the PSP. But now suddenly it's a silly argument. Funny how that works. There's quick resets and stand by modes, there's crap like boktais sensor, there's shorter distances between save points, there's focus on pick up and play over waiting for cutscenes and voice acting etc. Portable games and console games are not the same. The only console ports that succeed on handhelds are the ones that are extremely popular already that people are able to tolerate and hinge on stuff like nostalgia.
So you have no proof. Okay, well that's good to know. Then what's stopping Nintendo again? Whats taking them so long to release their stuff on the Wii U since the VC is so successful there? Where's the plethora of buyers on the Wii U?
I dunno. NES/SNES are tricky. N64 may be possible, and if we ever get GCN I expect that. It'd be hard to actually find the actual content and recreate it.
LegendofLex
Member
They regularly demonstrate that the artwork is sufficiently archived by putting it on various merchandise. And since the artwork would be the challenging part.
They did it with the EarthBound NP guide, so I'd be shocked if they couldn't do it with the old manuals.
Nope, Advance Wars 1&2 and Golden Sun are there.
Kudos to Nintendo for incorporate the Normal/Smoothing options for display. I would definitely choose Normal display, I want it to be as crisp as possible. That was my main concern that the image display could look terribly blurry but it's not anymore. Now I'm hyped to play Metroid Fusion tomorrow! Plus, the manuals included on each game is a great addition as well.
They are? Well damn.
I should probably turn my Japanese Wii U on at some point. Guess it was midnight launch.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Nintendo should just contact some weirdo collector and ask to borrow his manuals. He'd be happy to help out the company he's obsessed about, and try get original copies.
Or can you not scan those old manuals?
Or can you not scan those old manuals?
moltonasty
Member
Am I the only one who finds it weird as hell that the Wii can run Yoshi's Island SNES version using emulators through the homebrew channel, yet they insist on releasing the GBA version for the Wii U VC?
I heard that it was issues with emulating the Super FX. The unofficial stuff does it, but not necessarily successfully. With Nintendo's emulation, they do actually aim for accuracy (contrary to what people believe)
It might be more of a legal issue, because of the SFX chip.
moltonasty
Member
The thing that doesn't make sense about that is that Argonaut (the developers of the SFX chip) have been closed for around a decade now. I mean, who would sue Nintendo, if the company doesn't even exist anymore?
Beelzebufo
Banned
Plus, doesn't the GBA version have more content?
If they don't have the manuals for the old games couldn't they just use a site that has hi-res scans of them? A quick google search shows tons of manuals nicely scanned.
This is awesome news about the brightness and smoothing for GBA games, most games would look way to blocky or bright.
This is awesome news about the brightness and smoothing for GBA games, most games would look way to blocky or bright.
moltonasty
Member
It does, but SNES version has better graphics and sound. Generally, it's considered to be the superior version
It's just speculation, anyway. I'd guess someone else has those rights now, but I don't know.
That still doesn't make it the better version, though.
Yeah.
It's the same reason they're releasing Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World, even though Super Mario World is on the SNES Virtual Console
Was this posted?
- GBA releases were artificially brightened due to the GBA's lack of a backlit screen
- Wii U GBA VC releases have been corrected for brightness
- screen-smoothing option available via menu or pushing in the right joystick
- games are upscaled to take up a 1620×1080 block on your TV
- option to play with Original Resolution is available
- this option upscales to the largest whole factor it can on the screen: 1440×960
- navigate the instruction booklet on the GamePad while the game continues on TV
- GBA releases were artificially brightened due to the GBA's lack of a backlit screen
- Wii U GBA VC releases have been corrected for brightness
- screen-smoothing option available via menu or pushing in the right joystick
- games are upscaled to take up a 1620×1080 block on your TV
- option to play with Original Resolution is available
- this option upscales to the largest whole factor it can on the screen: 1440×960
- navigate the instruction booklet on the GamePad while the game continues on TV
LegendofLex
Member
I doubt it's a legal issue. Probably more of a technical issue. They need the game to run as close as possible to how the SNES game did if they're emulating the SNES version, but if that's more sensible with the GBA version, it's no wonder they'd go with that.
Yes. But it's nice to have a summary of the article here.
PhoenixDawn
Member
Sounds like it works pretty similarly (appearance wise at least) to the gameboy player, which is good news I'd say. I still have that for most of the GBA games I own, but hopefully I'll be able to pick up a few of the gems that I missed purchasing physical versions of on VC.
My new theory is they used Stunt Race FX as a basis to test their SFX emulation and then thought the emulation wasn't working right since it was running so slow and scrapped the whole project.
moltonasty
Member
Yeah, maybe. But it just seems batshit crazy to me that some homebrew guys can make the game run on the Wii, yet Nintendo "can't". Maybe the emulated version isn't perfect, but then again they're doing it for free. Whereas I would assume that a huge corporation like Nintendo would be capable of 100 % emulating the SFX chip. But then again, maybe it is actually that complex? What do I know..
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Lol, that sounds crazy enough to be true. "If this game is running at 10fps, so will Yoshi's Island."
The GBA Virtual Console sounds pretty darn good right now. Games don't look as dark as previously feared, and they've actually added some new features that go beyond just ROM dumps.
That light oscillates during the game. The picture on the left is clearly it part way through the animation
Ah ok, I was wondering if it had something to do with the brightness changes.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Will some of that be helped by the brightness changes? I guess there's not much you can do about sound though.
