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Gearbox confirms Borderlands 3 launches on September 13, 2019; Epic Games Store exclusive
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LegendOfKage
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It's cool to hear impressions from someone who didn't play the previous games, and also has no problem with telling everyone exactly what they thought:
ethomaz
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I have a question...
Do you believe all these games are being moneyhat with big values by Epic?
Or just the fact that using Epic saves you over 20% cut from the revenue already is a big reason to publishers/developers choose it over Steam?
Gearbox was very unhappy with Steam even before Epic Store existed.
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LegendOfKage
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A brand new Borderlands 2 DLC is also free for the first month, so be sure to download it as well.
SonGoku
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Most have 1 year exclusivity, that implies moneyhat
ethomaz
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Which ones has 1 year exclusivity? Are there any that showed on Steam after that? Or it is just PR to content the backslash from Steam fans?
There is a big difference in the revenue part you will get between Steam and Epic Store.
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SonGoku
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Shenemue 3 I know theres much more that announced 1 year exclusivity
Epic even went on record telling valve to reduce its cut and they'll stop buying exclusives
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Gearbox creative director Paul Sage — How we made Borderlands 3
Paul Sage is the creative director for Gearbox Software's Borderlands 3, which debuts on the PC and consoles in September.
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ethomaz
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MrTroubleMaker
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lol if they are so upset with steam...well then they really must be mad at the console fees..... BTW I don't get the discount with epic... steam is cheaper.
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MMaRsu
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I see how is lying kkkkk
Never give up
Yeah you seem to never give up on making shit up
KonradLaw
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I seriously doubt there's even one epic store exclusive that's not moneyhatted in some way. Not that it's the only reason (especially for games being made on Unreal Engine, where the cut is even lower, altough that's anti-trust procedure waiting to happen), but nobody puts their games exclusivelly in Epic Stor without squeezing additional money from Epic.
ethomaz
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Some devs put their games on Epic Store to have a big share of the sales... just that.
Others receive help from Epic ($$$).
There is nothing wrong with games on Epic Store.
Devs with more money = more games and better quality.
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I don't think there's any developer like this among those who exclusivelly release on Epic Store
Blood Borne
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why are people angry at Epic but not the developers. They’re the ones who made the deal, they’ve done their internal analysis and believe that taking money from Epic is good deal for them. It’s their choice.
In virtually all industries, businesses partner with another for exclusivity for competitive advantage. Netflix, Pepsi, McDonald’s, etc all do moneyhat. This whole brouhaha is from bitter steam fanboys.
In virtually all industries, businesses partner with another for exclusivity for competitive advantage. Netflix, Pepsi, McDonald’s, etc all do moneyhat. This whole brouhaha is from bitter steam fanboys.
There has been plenty of backlash against publishers. It's a good deal for them since they get the upfront money and can release on steam later. Pc is not like console. The only exclusives are from developers that release on their own store. Release everywhere and make incentives to purchase from your store is how actual competition works. Even though almost all 3rd party legit key sites have cheaper prices steam is still a good place to buy for the refund policy.
Is it a winning strategy? Only time will tell. But from everything I've seen this is just pushing some people back to pirating games.
Blood Borne
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God forbid a company does what’s in its best interest. They believe and most likely done their internal analysis and financials, that this deal is in their best interest.
That is how competition works, companies making decisions that favours them. Just like how you will make the decision whether it’s in your best interest to get it from Epic store or wait until the exclusivity runs and it comes to Steam. You do what’s best for you.
ethomaz
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Proof?
The fact you need to share less with Epic Store and even less if using Unreal Engine already tell a lot of the situation.
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KonradLaw
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The fact that they specify the exclusivity period proves that. If devs would put games exclusivelly on Epic Store without any monehatting they would never specify the exclusivity period as it would make zero sense to lock yourself into a corner like this.
ethomaz
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Not all games released only on Epic Store have exclusive deals.
And exclusivity deal are even better to platforms... drive investment in the industry.
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Kagey K
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I don’t know why they have to keep fucking with my Siren every game, but dammit I’ve played that class every time and I’m going to do it again, even if the playstyle appears to have changed a lot.
MMaRsu
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Can you cut the bullshit? Exclusivity serves noone except the platform holders in this case Epic and Take2.
Kagey K
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Well then the PC market has only been bolstering Steam for the last 10 years and have been serving Valve almost exclusively. Why does Valve deserve all this free money by being the de facto store for PC?
lukilladog
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Faulty analogy, exclusivity deals on the EGS serve Epic´s purposes, they exist to serve that objetive. Devs and publishers chosing to sell on steam serve their own purpose, they are neither being paid or forced to sell there.
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Woo-Fu
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Whataboutism? How many exclusives did Valve pay for?
It boggles the mind when people act like Epic is trying to be some sort of savior. Pointing the finger at Valve when that is exactly where Epic wants to be, except by removing consumer choice instead of by being the better platform? Really?
Valve paid the iron price, Epic is merely trying to buy it with their Fortnite gold.
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Kagey K
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Before EGS there wasn’t really a choice. It was Steam or bust.
Now they have a choice and can leverage their games, before that it all served Valves purposes, and if you didn’t like it, you had to kick rocks.
lukilladog
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There was still a choice, sell there, or not.
Kagey K
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Because they were the only one. What are they doing now to keep devs and customers from leaving?
It’s easy to do nothing when you have no competitors. They were the default.
It’s not whataboutism. For over 10 years Valve went essentially unchallenged. Now somebody is making an effort to step up and they have to do something to grab customers away.
Kagey K
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It wasn’t, if they didn’t sell there their game went unnoticed. It was either publish through Steam or die.
Edit: This is not the place for us to be having this discussion and seems to be taking this thread off the rails.
If you want to make a thread or bump one about how Steam having a Monopoly on the PC community is a good thing, we can continue the conversation there.
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Woo-Fu
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They weren't the only one, though. There has always been other digital distribution platforms, they've always sucked compared to Steam. Did they suck compared to Steam because Valve was paying for exclusives and giving away free games? No, they sucked because Steam was objectively better in practically every metric meaningful to the consumer.
Epic isn't stepping up, their client is garbage and after 5+ years hasn't significantly improved in any way. If they "have to do something to grab customers away" then why don't they make a better product? Isn't that how you're supposed to win? By offering the better product?
Again, mind-boggling that people try to blame Valve while defending Epic's unsavory attempts to accomplish similar success. If Valve's market dominance is bad that should mean Epic is trying to be even worse. Why would you give them credit for it?
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Kagey K
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See my edit above. This isn’t the thread for this conversation. Make or bump one about Steam or EGS and we can continue the conversation there.
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lukilladog
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That´s a false dichotomy, game companies always had the choice of not letting physical media die on PC and assume the risks of building a digital store front. Maybe you should blame them.
Kagey K
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I don’t blame anyone, the market goes where it goes, I can’t personally control it.
But as I said above this isn’t the thread for it. Make one about Steam or EGS if you want to continue this conversation.
lukilladog
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This thread is also about the exclusivity.
Kagey K
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I saw it more as about the game itself.
If a mod chimes in and says we can have the steam vs EGS talk then I’ll continue.
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