Tried to answer to everybody, so it become a little messy with all the quotes, I hope I didn't fuck up at some point.
It is an actual problem. Just like the immigration crisis is an actual problem. Yet you seem to want to silence one matter and not the other. You mention crimes again refugees, but seem happy to ignore crime caused by people abusing the current immigration process or immigrants who fail to integrate and participate in society in a productive way.
Crimes against refugees are terrible and the people responsible for that should be locked away for a long time. But that does not mean the problems the current immigration crisis is causing can be ignored and should not be reported.
All true. But all the problems are heavily reported on by everybody.
The issue is the unimportant stuff thats beeing reported in order to polarize, in order to incite people.
The current EU policies are at least partially responsible for that. The German government said "come here, you are all welcome" - or at least it sounded like that to the people coming - and that is why they make the journey and people die along the way.
Germany said that because they had no where else to go and where dieing everywhere between borders.
Germanys reaction was in order to lead by example. Unfortunately not many followed.
This is not a choice between letting everybody in or letting them die. People from Algeria and Morocco aren't dying. There are refugee camps for Syrians which we can fund and then transfer people from in a safe way instead of letting them cross on crappy boats and funding smugglers.
They aren't dying in their countries, but they still start the dangerous journey for various reasons. We can't take them in, but we also can't blame them for it.
The thing is that the question where to stop them is a hard one. When they're coming over the ocean not letting them in will probably result in their deaths.
But the countries at the coasts can't handle all the people landing on their coasts, so they let them cross the borders. Should the neighboring countries just close their borders and leave Italy and other alone with the problem? Thats not how it works in the EU.
What are the solutions you propose for people who come from safe countries? "Not letting them in" is not a feasible solution.
It is not. It is the medias job to report facts and give insight into important matters. It is not their job to censor information just because some may use it for political goals. Since when is it the medias responsibility to shape public opinion?
Not reporting on crime commited by the germans while focussing only every crime with refugees involvement is distroting the facts. Thats not an accurate depiction of reality. Thats biased.
There is the usual crime happening everywhere, everyday. Just because some of it is commited by refugees doesn't make it more important and worth reporting in national newspapers and shows.
Yet here you are advocating for growth of the lower class with low education, lots of unemployment and primarily young males. Why is that a smart idea?
Because this isn't about us and what good this is going to do for the german economy, this is about helping people in need.
Germany can afford that and if done right Germany will also benefit from it in the long run.
You seem to have a very black and white view about the issue. Better checks at borders does not equal not helping anyone.
You can not open your borders to everybody and expect it to work out.
You seem to have no understanding of what the EU is.
Borders are open within the EU, thats the normal thing. You can just go wherever you want, there are no patrols, fences or checkpoints, most of the time you don't even notice when you cross a border.
The only border where checks are even possible is the one people cross when they come into the EU for the first time and these countries are completly overburdened by the situation.
So when you say "better checks" what do you even mean? Should Germany build a fence around the whole country in order to control where people are coming in, in order to be able to check them?
The next problem is, what do you do after the checks. If someone is from a safe country he will just tell you that he lost his papers and you'll have a hard time figuring out where he is actually from. As long as you don't know who he is and where he is from you also can't send him back.
Germany and Europe should find moral integrity with first taking care of their own people, than taking in anyone in fear of being called out as "the bad guys".
Germans are more than taken care of. What more do they want?
Also don't forget that the vast majority of germans is very pro refugees. We're talking about ca. 10% of germans who are actively against it.
This is what german people want to do. And germany is a democracy afterall.
lol what?
on what grounds?
Western intervention in the middle east is the reason we have this problem now.
Germany was sometimes part of these interventions.
This is political naivety of the worst kind. I can't believe that someone after seeing the failure of the multicultural experiments of the past decades and the ongoing migrant crisis (with reports of rapes, harassment of gay and trans gendered people, crime, terrorism, etc) will keep his/her head in the sand and wants to invite even more people because otherwise "Germany/Europe would lose its moral integrity.
I feel like in the comment section on Infowars...
What has to happen before you get some common sense in your head and begin to realize its far, far better to help people in the region? Better for us, better for them?
"Help the people in the region"
"Check all the people at the border"
"Don't let the ones from safe countries in or send them immediately"
Thats all nice and everything, but how would you do that? That not something you can just do.
You can't just fix the middle east.
You can't tell people in their little nutshell boats to turn around.
You can't send someone back when you don't know where he came from.
You can't check everyone at the border when your border is just a line on a map and in reality its just random fields and forrest.
This is a border:
This is a border within europe:
Of course germany has unemployment. While the official data is at about 2.8 unemployed people, you seem to forgot that after Schröder they changed it, so that "Maßnahmen" and "1€ jobs" dont count as being unemployed.
But its not a problem in germany.
When you're not living in the middle of bumfuck nowhere or you are willing to resettle for a job you will easily find a job.
In most areas employers even complain about too few applicants and thats usually for jobs with low requirements like mechanic, construction worker etc.*
In cities like munich employers actively bring people in from other countries because there aren't enough germans to fill all their vacant positions.(especially in hospitals, tons of spanish people with good education come here because they can't find a job in spain)
*Thats actually an area where many refugees started by now. When they were so lucky to get their work permit after waiting between 1 and 3 years they were allowed to start training for a job.
In germany that training(Ausbildung) is paid and takes about 3 years, after that you are a certified mechanic for example and employers actively seek these people.
Employers who had refugees in training were very positive about it because they were usually more motivated than germans. Working a daily job with german colleagues combined with language courses also leads to them learning the language pretty quickly.
Well according to some feminists, white men are just as bad. They send bad emails to female writers for example.
Gamergate reporting in?
Who cares about "moral integrity" if your daughter, wife, sister or mother is being raped?
The rule of law.
Or what is your solution? Let people die in the middle east because that non of our business. And when a german guys rapes your daughter we're going to kill that motherfucker ourselfs because fuck that maximum sentence.
Understandable but not feasible.
And again, put things into perspective! Germany isn't facing a wave of crime by any stretch...
Throwing women and LGBT people under the bus
Refraining from generalizations, xenophobia and islamophobia ≠ throwing women and LGBT people under the bus.
I see we have reached the point where people pretend to be well-versed when it comes to statistics. Finally I can dig out
this link in German by BpB (Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung). Though obviously one should take the conclusions from this article (as usual) with a grain of salt. Simply put, one has to be very, very careful when it comes to statistics.
Get outta here with that nuance! Let me have prejudices. Let me have my hate. Let me hate on muslims. Let me hate on uncivilized africans. Let me feel better than them.
Quote from this article by the Federal Agency for Civic Education:
Dennoch sind im öffentlichen Raum immer wieder Aussagen zu hören, die sich auf die PKS berufen, um zu belegen, dass Ausländer krimineller seien als Deutsche. Darin spiegelt sich im besten Fall eine unreflektierte Dateninterpretation wider. Häufig sind solche Aussagen aber auch politisch motiviert, etwa um durch das Bedienen von Ängsten vor den vermeintlich "Anderen" die eigene Gruppenidentität zu stärken.
"People repeadetly use statistics to prove that immigrants are more likely to be criminals than germans, this is at best a nonreflective interpretation of data but often its politically motivated and fearmongering."