I'm only able to watch on my phone, but visually that looked stunning. I absolutely love seeing some of those scenes with the big Hollywood budget. And I've had a crush on Scarlett Johanson for a decade, but she really, really doesn't fit the role. It just feels so thematically/aesthetically out of place. That said, I think if they cast any other woman, I think this would utterly bomb financially. It still might, but I think with ScarJo and the production behind it this might be a surprise hit.
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
In terms of anime -> Hollywood adaptations, this is looking more "Speed Racer" than "Dragonball: Evolution"
I wonder if this will do okay and promote more anime adaptations. It felt like a thing that Hollywood was building toward at the end of the 90s, but it didn't really happen.
I wonder if this will do okay and promote more anime adaptations. It felt like a thing that Hollywood was building toward at the end of the 90s, but it didn't really happen.
There's time when she really does look good in the role but it's not the action sequences.
SoulUnison
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This looks a lot better than I expected, but the flesh-suit is really, really bad.
I just don't think there might be a real way to make that work in live-action.
I just don't think there might be a real way to make that work in live-action.
Is Depeche Mode a niche band? I don't even listen to them except through radio and I know that song by heart.
Movie looks great, but I'm still skeptical. Which seems to be how most people feel.
Idk, I think she looks great. The only problem is that she's so prominent in movies nowadays, with very similar roles like Black Widow, that it's hard to separate the character from the actress. You see ScarJo, not the Major. If it was some new, unknown actress, it might be better. But that movie wouldn't be made so
Like two pages of one chapter is "full of softcore lesbian porn"? Really now?
HE CREATED THE DAMN SERIES!!!
ElBoxyBrown
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I thought it was an excellent cover that fit the mood of the trailer.
Fortinbras
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Looks great. I am surprised.
It's usually the other way around.
Yes, dolph woulda worked!
PatThePassive
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo
We talk about this yet? Its a lot more fast paced than the original but damn I still love it.
We talk about this yet? Its a lot more fast paced than the original but damn I still love it.
Mostly the fact that the movie has Michael Pitt cast as Kuze. Also I think Kuze is the cyborg guy taking the hood off / narrating towards the end of the trailer.
TDLink
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I don't think this will touch Speed Racer. That was a perfect storm of reverence of the source material, insane budget, good writing, good acting, and good directing.
That said, I do expect more anime adaptations to happen. Beyond this there is also, at least, Battle Angel Alita in 2018. Western Stuff like Pacific Rim, Power Rangers, and Iron Man/The MCU definitely further help this stuff penetrate the western mainstream culture.
The manga absolutely is different and weaker than the 95 movie and Stand Alone Complex. Sometimes a franchise moves beyond its creator in a positive way. He still deserves credit though, no doubt about it.
Crossing Eden
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Where are the gifs at?
The "weaker" thing is a bit of every ones own opinion. For me the order of importance of the different works is something like
95 movie
manga
innocence
SAC 1/2
Arise + the follow up movie
For me the real issue with SAC is that it feels empty. Just a lot of action without that much of actual content. Especially the second season. (still one of my favorite anime series out there though). It gets even worse with Arise.
ElBoxyBrown
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Not the same thing and I could be wrong but didn't the creator of Sailor Moon go from doing that to retiring early and writing kids books?
freethoughtbubble
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Please be good.
God could you imagine if anime adaptions become the new comic adaptations? Akira and Berserk please.
Visually and tonally I think they capture a lot of mystique of the original. I love that they used the original ost and green code transitions in one of their teasers a while back. The alterations to the narrative are a bit jarring, but if they manage to tell a good, if simplified, story I think this could be decent. Maybe even good.
Whoa.
God could you imagine if anime adaptions become the new comic adaptations? Akira and Berserk please.
Visually and tonally I think they capture a lot of mystique of the original. I love that they used the original ost and green code transitions in one of their teasers a while back. The alterations to the narrative are a bit jarring, but if they manage to tell a good, if simplified, story I think this could be decent. Maybe even good.
Whoa.
I wouldn't say they are a niche band. Depends on how old you are I suppose. Biggest through the 80's though they've been pretty constant with releases.
Agree to disagree then.
Tricky I Shadow
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Visually it looks pretty good, which is to be expected since it's the same guy who gave us Snow White and the Huntsman, but deep down I just know the movie is gonna be junk.
True Savior
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Let's end this buffoonery. Patlabor 2 is one of the greatest things ever and in a completely different class of its own in the Patlabor franchise.
No. It butchered the real strength of the show, the characters.
SolicitorPirate
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Bad future (aka Present timeline):
The kind of manga adaptations that finally break into mainstream success turns out to be stuff like Monster Musume
GavinUK86
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They've always been pretty massive here in Blighty. I grew up with later Depeche Mode. Not so much now though. Kids don't really listen to New Wave/Electronic anymore.
TDLink
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Don't agree at all. Many episodes of SAC have very limited amounts of action or virtually none at all. The climaxes of each season's story absolutely get a bit more action packed, but that feels earned after the "slower" earlier parts of each story. I mean there's an entire episode that is just in a chat room. The episode "Trial" (for example) only really has any at the beginning and it's to set up the episode's entire, excellent, premise. I had a friend I tried to introduce to the show end up thinking GITS was garbage because it was too boring and there wasn't enough action haha. Due to being over 50 episodes, and a film, you also get a much better sense of the world and characters than any other entry in the franchise, in my opinion.
Depeche Mode was one of the biggest new wave bands of the '90s. They're on the same level as New Order.
He created the series, but it took on a life of its own outside of his own creation.
It may not be "full" of softcore lesbian porn, but Shirow could also never resist a fan service opportunity.
SAC is less high concept psychological introspection, and more criminal investigation drama. Even the setting feels more contemporary than the movies. Also, when you have to fill-out a whole series, things can get watered down a bit.
But I still rank SAC above Innocence.
kylecoley182
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who's the guy that saids you trust me right?
Can't link the ProRes, but here's an encode better than Youtube from Paramount
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/g...HELL_TRAILER_1_SJ_GREETING_1920x1080_H264.mov
True Savior
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Major is what they call her, not what she calls herself. "This is Major" sounds awkard as fuck.
Like most of Oshii's filmography, he tends to be very alienated from characters. Even the ova episodes which he worked are exactly like that.
It's a magnificence look at post-war Japan and it's role in peacekeeping. It's a fucking astounding work, both as an introspection of the decay of society and the future that it sets.
The rest of Patlabor is a funny, lighthearted simpleton sci-fi/mundane police work with charming characters.
A Batou straight out of a bad cosplay.
Like most of Oshii's filmography, he tends to be very alienated from characters. Even the ova episodes which he worked are exactly like that.
It's a magnificence look at post-war Japan and it's role in peacekeeping. It's a fucking astounding work, both as an introspection of the decay of society and the future that it sets.
The rest of Patlabor is a funny, lighthearted simpleton sci-fi/mundane police work with charming characters.
A Batou straight out of a bad cosplay.
That's an outright insulting simplification considering many of the themes and elements found in Patlabor 2 could be found not only in the original OVAs but also the first movie. Not to mention the corporate espionage element in the Patlabor TV series.
Patlabor 1 did a much better job of balancing Oshii's philosophical panderings before he went way overboard with 2.
show me your skeleton
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it's a shame the person who wrote ghost in the shell is also the person who drew ghost in the shell.
True Savior
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Shirow's notes on the Manga are like the greatest thing ever and they give a great context to the entire Gits world. It's completely essential.
s_mirage
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More an illustrator/character designer than a mangaka, and his output has always been very fanservice heavy, but you could argue Satoshi Urushihara. As far as I can tell, his mainstream character design work seems to have dried up in recent years.
Oh man, I'd forgotten about his annotations. That guy was a maniac for detail.
GavinUK86
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Seems like a few elements from SAC too.
PatThePassive
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Congratulations?
SuperStiltzkin
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I love Patlabor 2 because it feels so distinctly non-Patlabor without being as removed from the series as WXIII. Even though it's just an expansion and re-imagining of that first OVA 2-parter, I felt like it was more focused in P2. Which makes sense considering Oshii locked himself in a room with Kazunori Ito away from the rest of Headgear to write P2. I dunno, I really like the tonal shift of Patlabor 2. I also like how it shows that even though the characters are kinda goofballs, they know how to buckle down and answer the call of duty when shit gets real. Not that stakes haven't been raised in Patlabor before, but it feels more like a "real" threat here. Tsuge isn't as cartoonish as Goto's former mentor in the OVA. The military standoffs and martial law takeover isn't as overdramatic as the one in the OVA. Even the "enemy" at the end isn't something that was designed to sell action figures or toy models (though they are still cool). Their adversaries are much more conventional. They are helicopter gunships and mobile gun platforms as opposed to the Griffon, Type Zero, and Chest Beam shooting robots.
I'd say the only one who gets butchered in the movie is Shinobu. Oshii admited that he has a hard time getting into that character's head because he has difficulty writing woman characters. So outside of that career professional aspect of her character, Shinobu becomes that thousand yard stare character you see in so much of his stuff after Patlabor 2. Then again, I'd say Oshii never really had a clear handle on Patlabor's characters. I always preferred the TV series and OVA2 over the Oshii directed OVA1. P2 is Oshii playing to his strengths, politics and philosphizing, while ignoring his weaknesses, characters. The characterizations and the comedy were both much better in the TV series and second OVA. Speaking of which, OVA2's final episode is a really beautiful epilogue and send off to the series that feeds pretty well into P2 when you see where the characters left off. And I loved seeing them work together one last time in that tunnel fight.
That being said, I do think P1 is the more enjoyable and easily rewatchable movie. I don't blame anyone for not liking P2 because it is such a slow and talky movie. I love both for different reasons. They represent two both sides of Patlabor to me. This is the Patlabor 2018 remake thread right?
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