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Ghost In The Shell (2017) Trailer
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Octavianus
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At least it has that going for it. Standalone Complex was a mistake, nothing but trash.
SolidusDave
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Wow.
The series is so much better than the movie. Seriously. Both seasons. I didn't think there are GitS fans that hate SAC
UnemployedVillain
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In SAC it made sense, but they seem to be going for the aesthetic and taking a lot of inspiration from the 95 movie, where it doesn't make much sense.
SAC focused more on the societal effects of cyberization, which worked well as it had lots of episodes to tackle it from lots of different angles and characters, but the movie was very much about the Major's attempts and trying to understand and deal with her increasing disassociation with her humanity. So everything from her being stoic, monotone voice and unchanging expression, to her not really subscribing to conventional norms for modesty and decency (running around in skin tight skin colored suits) were part of it
Standalone Complex was amazing, but it was closer to the manga as to the movie. Even the Tachikomas were great in Standalone Complex, very much like in the manga.
Insane Metal
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I don't know what this is about but I loved how it looks.
Octavianus
Banned
Wow.
The series is so much better than the movie. Seriously. Both seasons. I didn't think there are GitS fans that hate the SAC
I know opinions and all but...
UnemployedVillain
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I know opinions and all but...
Well, I'd say you're in the minority with that sentiment
Laieon
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Aeon Flux is a guilty pleasure of mine. I know absolutely nothing about Ghost in the Shell (should I read the manga?), but you definitely have me interested.
I know right? Yours are shit. Manga all the way.I know opinions and all but...
Heh, I guess this really is going to be a Hollywood take on GitS:SAC more than anything else. Could be a fun blockbuster. Might be better than Arise. Lol.
GitS hasn't been about actual philosophy for decades now. The most popular iteration of it in modern media is SAC which this draws heavily from. Especially 2nd GIG. Have you seen GitS Arise? It's basically an attempt to reboot GitS in the vein of Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
GitS hasn't been about actual philosophy for decades now. The most popular iteration of it in modern media is SAC which this draws heavily from. Especially 2nd GIG. Have you seen GitS Arise? It's basically an attempt to reboot GitS in the vein of Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
hosannainexcelsis
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Wow.
The series is so much better than the movie. Seriously. Both seasons. I didn't think there are GitS fans that hate the SAC
There are quite a few people who think that Oshii's films are the only legitimately good GitS. Not a majority, but definitely some. It makes sense, since Oshii and SAC take different approaches. These people generally think that SAC is an empty narrative without any of the atmosphere or thoughtfulness of the films.
Watch the Standalone Complex, it is a great introduction to the world and the philosophy of Ghost in the Shell.
Megawarrior
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Yeah it's wait for it to show up on HBO/Showtime type of movie.
I think it is like all the other properties with them existing in their own universes pretty much (manga, movies, SAC, the new anime) with some heavy handed borrowing of iconic scenes from the other versions for that fanboy nostalgia feel.
And to me this looks okish based on the trailer (My favorite GITS thing is Innocence so maybe I'm just weird)
I loooove Oshii's Ghost on the Sheel, but Standalone Complex builds the world better and also explaining the idea of cyberization and Artificial Intelligence.
And to be honest, Ghost in the Shell was not Oshii's best adaption of an anime or manga. The Patlabor movies are even better.
newtypepilot
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so Hong Kong is Tokyo now?
Comfort Jones
Banned
I kinda liked SAC but I hated the Major in it. I just found her to be uninteresting and just kind of an all around bad ass in a world where the flawed characters were way more interesting. Season 2 literally devotes an entire episode to showing how much better she is than one of her squadmates.
Doesn't help that I still do not understand what the fuck was going at the end of Season 1.
Why are they resisting the black ops guys with lethal force only to get put in prison and released? Did they not understand that was what was going to happen? How the fuck did they get away killing that many men? Am I supposed to be rooting for anyone here when repeatedly the black ops guys try to arrest them only to get murdered?
Huh
Well, you know, at leat they seem to be trying. Not sure they are taking the scenes from the movies and the storyline partially from 2nd Gig.
There's still something off with Scarlet's performance. She's practically not hitting any notes with Major. The real Major hacked her and implanted fake memories. That's the only explanation!
The '95 movie is a masterpiece but c'mon the TV series is great as well. They focus on different things while still exploring the same themes.
There's still something off with Scarlet's performance. She's practically not hitting any notes with Major. The real Major hacked her and implanted fake memories. That's the only explanation!
The '95 movie is a masterpiece but c'mon the TV series is great as well. They focus on different things while still exploring the same themes.
I liked how it looks. But it seems they are going to use the old amnesiac hero trope.
I read the original manga and watched the first two movies.
The main theme was "what it means to be human" and it haunted the major. It was "what am i" instead of "who was i"
Turns out she is the bad guy's daughter who became bad because what they did to her or some shit.
Anyway, i'm mildly interested.
I read the original manga and watched the first two movies.
The main theme was "what it means to be human" and it haunted the major. It was "what am i" instead of "who was i"
Turns out she is the bad guy's daughter who became bad because what they did to her or some shit.
Anyway, i'm mildly interested.
UnemployedVillain
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It was in the original movie that this is based on.
345triangle
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wow how slow is your internet
Wolfe
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Batou car.
Awesome.
CosmicGroinPull
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Loved both the 'something-for-the-male-viewers' eye candy shots. Not sure about the 'searching for my past' plot that it's hinting at.
Cautiously optimistic.
Cautiously optimistic.
UnemployedVillain
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I don't think it's the suit so much it's the green screen background and the fact that the lighting on the suit doesn't seem to match it. I think the suit looks as good as we could get for the skinsuit she was wearing in the scene in the movie
wait, this isnt a suit, right? wasnt it stated in interviews, that this is her "naked" body? so it makes sense they would use some cgi to "blend" it in.
That's a bodysuit. Major wore one in the original scene as well.
She is basically nude in the original movie (including nipples), as pointed out by Roger Ebert in his review. The bodysuit here is a step up (and presumably her "actual" robot body).
Mr. Poolman
Member
I like it!
Count me in.
Count me in.
in the shelling sequence from the tokyo event, it looks like that is her body.
purseowner
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Surprisingly fantastic trailer considering. Song choice on point.
Still majorly pissed about the whitewashing - GitS is an inherently Japanese tale, which makes this leave a bad taste in the mouth. Would have been way more interested in a domestic adaptation directed by someone like Shinya Tsukamoto.
Still majorly pissed about the whitewashing - GitS is an inherently Japanese tale, which makes this leave a bad taste in the mouth. Would have been way more interested in a domestic adaptation directed by someone like Shinya Tsukamoto.
John Kowalski
Banned
Well technically she's a soul inside a cyber brain inside a robot body, thus the ghost in the shell.
I also admit that seeing the Major grapple with self doubt is a bit weird. She's always felt like the most pragmatic person.
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