ElBoxyBrown
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Your missing the point. It could be good, just like how everyone thought Spy would be garbage from the trailers and it turned out to be decent.
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Ghostbusters Trailer 2
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plasmawave
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Everyone seemed to like Ted and that was from 2012. And who knows, maybe Adam Sandler will make a fun movie again. You never know from just watching trailers, right???
Now we have a new Ghosterbusters trailer and it's been unanimously criticized for being bad. But Jame is obligated to give this movie a chance eventho he's clearly not into it and it's none of your business?
blankempathy
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So why are you downplaying it then like you accuse others of downplaying the hate that others have received when people jump to the defense of James Rolfe? You say you're not insecure enough to speak your mind. Good for you. I hope no one ever harasses you over what opinions you may have. However if someone ever does and you want to walk away from it I wouldn't blame you.
Yeah I agree, I didn't read back far enough into this thread to see what he was implying there. I was under the assumption he was implying the backlash was because we expected more from Feig so they're giving him more shit because the new Ghostbusters was shit and they he'd already made a judgement call having not seen it. Turns out we're on the same side
brandonh83
Banned
Didn't say that. I think, respectfully to all parties, that he's being a little closed-minded by refusing to watch the movie as a huge Ghostbusters fan. Being that big a fan of something, you're absolutely going to be interested regardless of what you say on social media. I'm not insulting the guy, I actually really dig James Rolfe as we have tons in common, but I think it's a bummer that he refuses to see it because it's not what he would have did.
He'll still see it.
Yeah I agree, I didn't read back far enough into this thread to see what he was implying there. I was under the assumption he was implying the backlash was because we expected more from Feig so they're giving him more shit because the new Ghostbusters was shit and they he'd already made a judgement call having not seen it. Turns out we're on the same side
*bro-fist
Apologies for the above comment, I misinterpreted your response. I'm in agreement with you, as a Ghostbusters fan I'm hugely disappointed in the behavior of him and others. I find his justifications weak and shallow and based on emotion not logic.
Salty Rice
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The difference is Spy or Bridesmaid were not established franchises which had expectations of the content inside the movie.
So its easier to see why its gonna be bad than just by how the trailer flows.
brandonh83
Banned
You're good! I think the only strong feeling I think about all of this so far is that a lot of people are being dick buckets.
plasmawave
Banned
Didn't say that. I think, respectfully to all parties, that he's being a little closed-minded by refusing to watch the movie as a huge Ghostbusters fan. Being that big a fan of something, you're absolutely going to be interested regardless of what you say on social media. I'm not insulting the guy, I actually really dig James Rolfe as we have tons in common, but I think it's a bummer that he refuses to see it because it's not what he would have did.
He'll still see it.
*bro-fist
That's not true at all. I can name many movie or game franchises I used to be a big fan of that didn't even bother to check out their sequels. Not everyone is going to share your "fan" point of view.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I know, I find it hugely disappointing as a Ghostbusters fan to see the name being dragged through the mud
freenudemacusers
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I feel like this movie has been discussed 10x now than it will be after release.
starchild excalibur
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Looking at the likes vs dislikes on the Screen Junkies videos is disheartening but not surprising. To a large number of people, even alluding to some of the dislike possibly being due to sexism is reason enough to downvote the video and make claims about SJW pandering.
Utterly amazing.
Yes, because after it's released and there's a consensus by those who've actually seen it on whether it's good or bad, people will finally be able to move on.
Utterly amazing.
Yes, because after it's released and there's a consensus by those who've actually seen it on whether it's good or bad, people will finally be able to move on.
Bobby Roberts
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brandonh83
Banned
Okay, you did. Again, you mentioned to "look at Resident Evil," a series that people continued to pay money for, hence why there's about to be a sixth installment. You didn't dig some prime-time example out of the woodwork, you actually chose something that's quite the contrary.
If you don't want this stuff-- if you hear from 450 or 4,500 people that they don't want this stuff-- it may seem like a lot, but it's by no means a majority. The fact of the matter is that people just dig things that they're somewhat familiar with and are always looking for entertainment/escapism.
This whole "remake/reboot" frowning fiasco is an easy way to show distaste in it, but if people keep paying for it, it means they like it, want more, and will continue to pay more. And there's nothing wrong with that; again, we're talking about movies.
blankempathy
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Thats because some people are hypocrites. They'll bitch about one thing and yet give their money to it anyways. Thats not always the case. Last time I check Terminator Genisys bombed leading to the sequels supposedly getting canned. Yes Hollywood is going to keep throwing shit out and see what sticks but that doesn't mean people have to encourage them. And while its true some people get overly offended by adaptions/reboots/sequels at the same time some are simply not interested in watching something because its not what they wanted. Whats wrong with that? They're not raging over it. They're simply not interested. Yet people make it out to be some huge deal. Why? Are we not allowed to not go watch a movie?
plasmawave
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I didn't mention Resident Evil at all. That wasn't me.
Audioboxer
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I think I'm now more offended Adam Sandler and Resident Evil came up.
Sandler makes 1 okay movie for every 50. We also know the RE movies suck, and the gaming franchise went in the shitter after 3. Yes 3. True horror fan for life.
Sandler makes 1 okay movie for every 50. We also know the RE movies suck, and the gaming franchise went in the shitter after 3. Yes 3. True horror fan for life.
okay 4 is an amazing action game but still
brandonh83
Banned
There honestly was never that much interest in the newer Terminator to begin with, and the reviews were awful. We have zero Ghostbusters reviews. If it gets good reviews, don't you think the climate surrounding the film will change up somewhat? Because if a new Ghostbusters hits theaters, gets even remotely good reviews, it's going to do very well. I think it's going to do well regardless. Terminator just lost a lot of steam over time, especially because of T3 and Salvation. There hasn't been a new Ghostbusters in a very long time, so I think a reboot could end up doing well.
And no, I'm not saying nor have never said that people aren't allowed to watch a movie. What I'm discussing is the actual reasoning behind not going to see it.
Jesus.
It's been a long day.
Dark Ninja
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I love that James made the most calm video explaining why he wont review it so people wouldn't bother him about it later and people just jump on him. The reason he did this is because he's a huge fan of it and has many LONG videos analyzing the cartoon, toys and movies. The same would happen if a new TMNT, Thundercats, Godzilla or Transformers movie would come out its almost expected for him to address it because he always brings up those properties in his videos. He doesn't review every movie the same as he doesn't "review" every LJN game. He just does what he wants and doesn't even have a schedule for releasing videos other than the Monday play videos and Monster Madness which you guys should check out every October (Cheap Plug).
This Ghostbusters video he did is just an excuse to film in his new video store basement he just finished remodeling, just like the Godzilla trailer video he did before. He didn't even bother making an impressions/review video for Civil War which I expected after he did one for BvS. The guy doesn't like what he sees in the trailer and articulated pretty clearly and calmly.
I don't like what I see in the trailers and I wont be seeing it either.
This Ghostbusters video he did is just an excuse to film in his new video store basement he just finished remodeling, just like the Godzilla trailer video he did before. He didn't even bother making an impressions/review video for Civil War which I expected after he did one for BvS. The guy doesn't like what he sees in the trailer and articulated pretty clearly and calmly.
I don't like what I see in the trailers and I wont be seeing it either.
Corronchilejano
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If the movie makes it big while being panned by critics blinded by nostalgia, you bet it its just going to explode.
Otherwise no one will even bat an eye next time when Back to the Future is rebooted with two white guys as main actors.
I think i know now why so many people hate James Rolfe for his honest and good decisions.
Its like they are twins. Its like poetry.
Huh, I'm not seeing it. I don't hate either of them though.
...isn't there a new TMNT?
you just described every wrestling fan that exists today
Mr. Pointy
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See if I made GB3, I would have had Venkman die years before the movie, but have Bill Murray appear as a ghost. Like, the Ghostbusters would have been checking out a haunting, and then it turns out it's Peter and the crew are okay with it in a matter-of-fact kind of way.
plasmawave
Banned
Using trailers to decide whether to go see a movie or not is a completely new concept to some people.
Audioboxer
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Yeah. The TMNT films (90s ones) were yet another childhood love of mine. I even loved the third, the samurai one. Think it reviewed the worst? Never bothered with the 2014 one, sounded pretty shit. Still haven't seen it.
thecouncil
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"im tired... im just gonna go ahead and take off."
line delivery is hilarious.
line delivery is hilarious.
Fun Fact: BTTF reboot will never happen while Robert Zemeckis is alive. He has a clause in his contract to prevent it
brandonh83
Banned
I really like that part. I'm not a fan of all the yelling humor, but some of it seems fine.
flintstryker
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I hope he's immortal
blankempathy
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You're not downplaying the harassment some have received for criticizing the movie?
Seems like you are to me. It appears to me you're not worried about what backlash you may receive. Thats fine. However insulting others for being "insecure" because they don't want to receive any backlash sure sounds like you're downplaying any harassment they may receive. Even if someone has a reasonable argument that won't stop a certain demographic who will harass others just because they said something they don't like. No matter how rational the argument.
brandonh83
Banned
Also love the beginning of the trailer with the guy going on about how bad it's gonna fuck them up and ends it with "except you girls I think you can handle it" (paraphrasing)
I was ready for some goofy stinger, I felt it coming but it was actually the kind of slightly reserved humor I'm okay with it.
I was ready for some goofy stinger, I felt it coming but it was actually the kind of slightly reserved humor I'm okay with it.
They're probably not the worst considering TMNT has had a rocky lifetime but I will say I still haven't seen them and have no desire to see them yet either. I'll get around to eventually I'm sure.\
I actually very much agree, I think that literally was the moment I felt like "huh, maybe this movie has more promise than I thought". The joke had a setup, a punchline, was funny and didn't rely on screaming or inane dumb bullshit.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's not a problem of yours I can fix, apparently.
I'll be straight up honest: I only just now watched the new trailer in the OP.
I went from disliking the original trailer as most but still interested in the movie to absolutely adoring this trailer. Everything hit the mark for me except for the crowd surfing gag which as has been discussed is tired.
Everything felt like a big load of goofy fun rolled up into the spooky adventure wrappings that the original Ghostbusters had for me as a kid. I was too busy smiling during the trailer to remember to laugh because what it showed felt -good- to me.
I went from disliking the original trailer as most but still interested in the movie to absolutely adoring this trailer. Everything hit the mark for me except for the crowd surfing gag which as has been discussed is tired.
Everything felt like a big load of goofy fun rolled up into the spooky adventure wrappings that the original Ghostbusters had for me as a kid. I was too busy smiling during the trailer to remember to laugh because what it showed felt -good- to me.
the selfie stick thing was hilarious, and whoever wrote the old reddit post about the spoilers of the movie was clearly intentionally framing everything with a negative mindset going in (selfie stick? kill yourself) so as to diminish the fact that it's actually pretty good
flintstryker
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To be fair though why would he worry about any backlash when outside of a handful of gaffers no one gives a fuck about his opinion, James on the other hand for better or worse have a large following who does care about his opinions on these things warranted or not.
Edit: in any event as mentioned before I absolutely loved Spy and I'm gonna check out Bridesmaid, I would have rather this being an original film mainly because Ghostbusters exist already and I hate remakes (even ones that looks good like Magnificent Seven)
Man it sucks to see people go after Rolfe this hard over not wanting to review the movie. Even people I tend to follow on twitter with a considerable amount of respect resorted to name calling him.
I do think the majority of the hate for the movie and trailers is caused by the leftover gamergate debacle and sexist assholes out there. But nothing in Rolfe's video gave me that impression. I would do the same thing if someone was going to remake Back to the Future and the trailers for it were shitty. But now he's been lumped as a sexist by the people who don't take the time to do some research, all while being held as a martyr by the gamergate community.
The movie could be good or not, I don't know, I'm not gonna bother to watch it at theaters simply cause I have no interest in it. If it's on Netflix I will watch it.
I do think the majority of the hate for the movie and trailers is caused by the leftover gamergate debacle and sexist assholes out there. But nothing in Rolfe's video gave me that impression. I would do the same thing if someone was going to remake Back to the Future and the trailers for it were shitty. But now he's been lumped as a sexist by the people who don't take the time to do some research, all while being held as a martyr by the gamergate community.
The movie could be good or not, I don't know, I'm not gonna bother to watch it at theaters simply cause I have no interest in it. If it's on Netflix I will watch it.
brandonh83
Banned
My major takeaway is that... it's not some gritty, dark reboot. It's actually more colorful, vibrant, and it seems to have a lot of spirit. The acting is fine too even if not every line or joke lands. I at least have to appreciate that.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is good.
flintstryker
Banned
Just calling it like I see it brah no one gives a fuck about my opinions in general either so I don't have to worry about an internet witch hunt when I say shit too.
Still not really doing anything for me.
The trailer seemed to play its hand a little too openly, and now I'm convinced this is another one of those remakes masquerading as a reboot. It's just so... safe.
You could have done something real cool and new with Ghostbusters in 2016, you really could have.
The trailer seemed to play its hand a little too openly, and now I'm convinced this is another one of those remakes masquerading as a reboot. It's just so... safe.
You could have done something real cool and new with Ghostbusters in 2016, you really could have.
brandonh83
Banned
I actually think the race thing/lady thing is hilarious and perhaps even a little meta.
Salty Rice
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Corronchilejano
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Well, you get the point.
brandonh83
Banned
The selfie stick humor is great. I'm familiar with selfie culture as I frequent Universal Studios, and while I'm not sure they'll ever shoot themselves in the foot, the scene is making fun of how much some people give so much of a shit about what kind of impossibly rare pics they could get a lot of Facebook likes for that they'll toss aside logic and safety to get that photo.
blankempathy
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Thats my point. Its easy to be confident and downplay any harassment when you're less at risk at being a victim of it. Someone wants to call other people insecure for not speaking out when they themselves don't have to worry as much about catching someones attention. Hell I'm no one special and I've gotten my fair share of death threats via messages or people following me and harassing me online for saying something they didn't like. Thats maybe from a handful of people. I can only imagine how bad it would be if I had some type of following.
excelsiorlef
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Jones delivers it great too
excelsiorlef
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What about Paul Feig and the Ghostbusters cast and the shit they've put up with in the past year+?
Many people here were criticizing Feig and co for hiding behind harassment and using the sexist trash they were receiving as a shield.
Now Rolfe wades into this mess with a pointless video (He's not a movie reviewer so why did he feel the need to let us know he wasn't gonna review it) and now he's some massive victim that everyone supports.
Where were you guys over the past year? Where were you when Patton Oswald was getting repeated direct tweets about his late wife (btw those tweets that were screenshoted earler were not sent to Rolfe at all. They're immature and stupid but it is interesting that they did not @mention him)
It's clear frankly that for some people it's worst to have even the slightest insinuation that you're sexist then it is to be a victim of sexism and that's hilarious to me.
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