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Giant Bomb Thread #5 - We love you, Ryan Davis

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TheLegendOfMart said:
They've said they can't afford to take any other staff on and didn't they buy Whiskey Media for Comic Vine?
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They bought both giant bomb and comic vine. If they just wanted comicvine they would just buy comicvine.

Also I think people forget that Matt Rorie is a very recent hire. Plus that other video dude, whose name I think is Andy?
 
Antiwhippy said:
They bought both giant bomb and comic vine. If they just wanted comicvine they would just buy comicvine.

Also I think people forget that Matt Rorie is a very recent hire. Plus that other video dude, whose name I think is Andy?
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Mart Rorie only got hired from the money left over from Dave leaving. Andy is a video producer for CBSi as a whole.
 
Red UFO said:
Mart Rorie only got hired from the money left over from Dave leaving. Andy is a video producer for CBSi as a whole.
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Hmm, I thought Andy specifically has been a fairly big part of their video team for quite awhile now.

True about Matt, though I thought he was more brought on to take on Ryan's support duties.

Still, I guess what I'm getting at is that I don't think that they're desperate for money. If anything I think they still have room for expansion, even before Ryan's death.
 
ABC said:
And if you already paid for the beer and then not get it because the store clerks friend died?
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A more apt analogy would be if a family business shutdown for awhile because one of its employees died.

Also if you feel like you're not getting what you paid for then demand a refund.
 
I think what gets me about all this is the expectation that the guys have to return to their old form.

They're human beings. They can't just flip a switch and suddenly be funny in the old way. It's a basic fact of life that when traumatic things happen, people are different for a while. Frankly, I was kind of amazed that they were as close to traditional form as possible on the Bombcast as they were, but even there you heard the cracks in the facade they're putting up.

I don't think they trust themselves to do live shows right now, and I think even if they did there's a decent chance they'd get really awkward at points when reality broke back in for the guys.

Honestly, there's a decent chance that they'll never be the same again. I'm not saying that they'll never be funny again, but people change and their perspective on life changes. Their humor may change, and they may not make the same jokes they would have if Ryan was still around. At the very least, it appears that Jeff is going through some fairly deep shit right now and who's to say what happens when he comes out the other side?

So if you have a problem with the amount of content, the proper thing to do is to write support. I bet that they'd be willing to offer a refund given the circumstances.

But don't forget: Summers always fucking suck for content. Do people recall everyone complaining last summer because there was nothing and people said it was because they were still adjusting to being owned by CBSi? Or the summer before that aka the summer of Farmville?
 
No crude sexual humor in that Trackmania QL?

Vinny: You don't like a large trunk?

Jeff: You know, I do, but I gotta see around that thing, not rest a drink on it.
 
Antiwhippy said:
A more apt analogy would be if a family business shutdown for awhile because one of its employees died.
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You still paid for your beer and you don't get it, whatever you want to call the situation.

And I don't want to get a refund (I don't think GB even offers refunds), I just want new content for the rest of my subscription, since I paid for it.
 
Raising complaints about a lack of content in light of the death of a core member of the team and being upset that the tone of his grieving friends doesn't meet your expectations might be one of the stupidest, most selfish criticisms someone could make.

But yo, complaining about immature sexual humor appearing in a piece of Giant Bomb content is still at least a million times dumber than that.
 
ThreePiMatt said:
No crude sexual humor in that Trackmania QL?

Vinny: You don't like a large trunk?

Jeff: You know, I do, but I gotta see around that thing, not rest a drink on it.
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That is mild by the standards of the last five years. It is utterly bizarre that anyone would claim it's something new to Giant Bomb. But the guy also claimed Vinny and Brad didn't contribute anything when I heard them making comments the whole way thru the video.
 
ABC said:
You still paid for your beer and you don't get it, whatever you want to call the situation.

And I don't want to get a refund (I don't think GB even offers refunds), I just want new content for the rest of my subscription, since I paid for it.
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You can't always get what you want. Sometimes you just have to be a human being and understand they're going through things. Their content requires them to think fast and be funny, and shockingly people going through traumatic things aren't really in the mindset to be funny. It's kind of like asking a factory worker to work when he's broken one of his arms. He might physically be able to kind of do the job, but the quality would not be what you want.

And I'm willing to bet that if people are that displeased with the dearth of content, given the circumstances, they'd give you a refund. That's realistically your path of recourse for your grievance.

If we're still having this conversation on August 18, I'd be more likely to agree with you.
 
eival said:
do i get to tell GB that my friend just died and i want a month of free premium access since im not really feeling like paying them?
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Patryn said:
Sometimes you just have to be a human being and understand they're going through things.
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I did for 2 weeks. But at one point you just have to suck it up and get back to doing your job, as hard as it sounds or you will never recover. As a person and as a site.
GB now lost 3 Members (I count Patrick in that to) in a very short time and that is not good for the future of the site.
 
ABC said:
I did for 2 weeks. But at one point you just have to suck it up and get back to doing your job, as hard as it sounds or you will never recover. As a person and as a site.
GB now lost 3 Members (I count Patrick in that to) in a very short time and that is not good for the future of the site.
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Lost who? Ryan obviously but the other 2? Patrick still make content for the site even if he's not in SF. And I guess you're talking about Dave for the other one? Dave hasn't been part of the site proper since they left Sausalito in 2010. He did some stuff from time to time but he was working for Whiskey Media and CBSi, not for Giantbomb (and there's nothing wrong with that mind you). People freaked out when he left but really, it's not like he had a huge presence on the site.
 
ABC said:
I did for 2 weeks. But at one point you just have to suck it up and get back to doing your job, as hard as it sounds or you will never recover. As a person and as a site.
GB now lost 3 Members (I count Patrick in that to) in a very short time and that is not good for the future of the site.
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Ryan's passing was announced a week and a half ago. How have you waited 2 weeks?

And I agree that it's not good for the future of the site.

But the recourse you have is to ask for a partial refund and cancel your membership until content resumes to the level you desire. I think simply quietly doing that is not assholish in any way, because you are paying for something.

But complaining that they've had long enough to grieve is not going to accomplish anything. They'll get to things when they get to them.
 
ABC said:
I did for 2 weeks. But at one point you just have to suck it up and get back to doing your job, as hard as it sounds or you will never recover. As a person and as a site.
GB now lost 3 Members (I count Patrick in that to) in a very short time and that is not good for the future of the site.
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We still don't know if they won't do Unpro this week.

Also it hasn't really been two weeks. It's 1 week if anything, and that was just a week dedicated to ryan really.
 
I think it's probably fair to point out that there's a difference between being a fan of a product, and being a consumer of a product. If you're not satisfied with the amount of content GB is delivering at the moment, cancel your subscription and possibly ask for a refund for this month.

There have been multiple periods where I don't really feel GB have perhaps put out enough content to justify paying the monthly fee for their site, something I'm personally fine with, because I regard my payment more as a donation than as buying a product - but if you don't feel like this, I can easily see why you'd be upset with the sometimes irregular trickle of content, despite whatever excuse they might have.
 
so i think they need to make a new official segment of the bombcast
vinny caravella, family handy man

just vinny talking about whatever house shit he did this past week. 55 gallon jugs of water. killing gofers. whatever
 
Myomoto said:
I think it's probably fair to point out that there's a difference between being a fan of a product, and being a consumer of a product. If you're not satisfied with the amount of content GB is delivering at the moment, cancel your subscription and possibly ask for a refund for this month.

There have been multiple periods where I don't really feel GB have perhaps put out enough content to justify paying the monthly fee for their site, something I'm personally fine with, because I regard my payment more as a donation than as buying a product - but if you don't feel like this, I can easily see why you'd be upset with the sometimes irregular trickle of content, despite whatever excuse they might have.
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I also think that's fine, but saying that you're not happy that they aren't being up to their standards of funny is pretty dickish.

I honestly do think that a refund and cancelling your subscription is perfectly ok to do, but at least understand why they might take awhile to get up to par. Losing 1 man in a team around 7-8 can be a pretty big blow, and leaving personal issues aside there needs to be a bit a restructuring as far as duties go, and maybe some legal stuff to handle? Though I think they'll be back to a somewhat regular schedule by next week.
 
eival said:
last i checked they're still charging money for entertaining content.
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I didn't realise the $4.95/mth was a direct payment for content that month. Then again, I pay annually, but now it is brought to my attention I'm reconsidering all of these things in my life. You might well be onto something eival!

Compound interest that is only compounded monthly in my savings account. What a fucking rip. I'm walking down to the bank tomorrow and demanding that shit be compounded an hour after I make a deposit.

My employer. Fuck that guy. I have to work for two whole weeks before he pays me? What is this shit? I should be paid immediately, or atleast within an immediate time frame after I punch out in the evening.

Superannuation. I seriously have to wait until I retire at ~60 before I can access it? What the
shit? How did I not realise how ripped off I've been all this time?

My TV subscriptions. I can't believe I never realised this before, but you're totally right. I pay $7.99 per month for Netflix, $7.99 for Hulu and $20/month for Austar here in Australia, and those fucks barely ever put out new content. Indeed, I can just torrent 99% of the stuff that is on there! Fuck, the epiphany that just washed over me has left me trembling. Guess who is getting a mad call tomorrow from me?

Shit, every investment I've ever made in my life that didn't pay out the day after. They were all a con, too. My resources portfolio that doesn't pay annual dividends, fuck. I should probably stop buying non-winning lottery tickets, too.

Thank you, eival, you've made my life a brighter, more cheerful and far cheaper one. I will go into this weekend a better person for your life changing post about the $4.95 and the lack of monthly content which it ought to entitle you to.
 
Seriously, the one or two people complaining about the content-- what the hell do you want them to do? Break into tears every 15 minutes while they do a live show? Watch the last few minutes of Patrick Quick Looking that Michael Jordan game. Because that's how ALL of their content would've been had they been putting stuff up the last two weeks.

You have to be a monster to want that.
 
Megasoum said:
Lost who? Ryan obviously but the other 2?
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Patrick and Dave. Even if Patrick still makes a few videos, he is no longer in the office and isn't part of the "main content" so I count him as gone, and Dave was not only about the Videos he was in, he was a big part of GB that is now gone.

Patryn said:
Ryan's passing was announced a week and a half ago. How have you waited 2 weeks?
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Sorry, I counted from Ryans death and not from the day they announced it.
And I already canceled my annual subscription.
 
ABC said:
Patrick and Dave. Even if Patrick still makes a few videos, he is no longer in the office and isn't part of the "main content" so I count him as gone, and Dave was not only about the Videos he was in, he was a big part of GB that is now gone.
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Like I said, Dave was in almost no content for the last couple of years. We were lucky if we saw him once a month. Sucks that he left but it doesn't really affect the content at all.
 
Also patrick seems to have a good setup now to do quite a bit of content. His rogue legacy stream and bombasticas prove it. I think it's a bit unfair to him to say that his content as not part of the main thing, when he does do some pretty quality stuff.

There's also the thing he's planning to do with alex. Dunno how that's going to turn out though.
 
Antiwhippy said:
Also patrick seems to have a good setup now to do quite a bit of content. His rogue legacy stream and bombasticas prove it. I think it's a bit unfair to him to say that his content as not part of the main thing, when he does do some pretty quality stuff.
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His Rogue Legacy stream was great. So much unbridled mirthfulness upon defeating the game.
 
ABC said:
I did for 2 weeks. But at one point you just have to suck it up and get back to doing your job, as hard as it sounds or you will never recover. As a person and as a site.
GB now lost 3 Members (I count Patrick in that to) in a very short time and that is not good for the future of the site.
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It's really easy to tell the people who have gone through shit in their lives and haven't in this thread.
 
Antiwhippy said:
Also patrick seems to have a good setup now to do quite a bit of content. His rogue legacy stream and bombasticas prove it. I think it's a bit unfair to him to say that his content as not part of the main thing, when he does do some pretty quality stuff.

There's also the thing he's planning to do with alex. Dunno how that's going to turn out though.
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Hasn't Patrick continue to prove even after his move that he still generates more content than any other member of the site (not counting Alex's news stories)?
 
AngelsDontBurn said:
I was surprised he didn't use shout at all during the Fountain, makes that boss fight much easier.
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I was hopeless at forgetting to use the character trait abilities, too. 'Cos you're right, the Barb's Shout is a legitimate gamechanger.

I also found that just plain old shouting at the monitor was a handy way to ensure I would jump an inch higher and nullify the effects of spikes.
 
Patryn said:
Hasn't Patrick continue to prove even after his move that he still generates more content than any other member of the site (not counting Alex's news stories)?
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Well, it's just two bombasticas, one coffee time and the rogue legacy stream, so I wouldn't call it more, but I have absolute trust that he can generate a regular stream of content.
 
eival said:
do i get to tell GB that my friend just died and i want a month of free premium access since im not really feeling like paying them?
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Your post is just sad, and I really never thought I would read something so petty and selfish given what has happened to these guys.
Dude, honestly have just a little compassion for what they are going through. If the lack of content is that big of an issue for you then unsubscribe.
Do us all a solid, and leave this thread.
 
The Dutch Slayer said:
Go and reads eival post:
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Response:
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Best response in the thread.
Seriously, one of the founders just died, of course content (free or not) is going to take a dive. Summer also isn't the best period for games usually.
I mean, seriously, even I bitched about Brad not following things through (like devil may cry) and the crew dropping other stuff, but complaining about content 2 weeks after ryan davis died? I'm glad there's so few people like him though, i wouldn't want the guys to be bombarded with posts like that demanding content from them as if they're their personal videogame pets, while they just lost their lifelong friend.
Just cancel your subscription and be done with it instead of complaining about $5.
 
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