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Giant Bomb Thread #5 - We love you, Ryan Davis

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f0rk said:
If you saw Patrick Stewart in the street and shouted 'YO ZOBEC' do you think he would know what you were talking about?
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My bet is he forgot all about that gig as soon as the cheque cashed.

A friend of mine (who is an idiot) paid a silly amount of money to have "breakfast with the captains" at one of those lame Star Trek conventions. Apparently Stewart was the only one who wan't disappointing. According to him, Shatner was "half asleep", Sisko didn't turn up (he was billed although I thought he was a commander?) and Janeway was on her mobile phone all the time.
 
Watching Law of the West.

Game community's all 'ehhhh less violence' and yet the best part of this bombastica is Jeff flipping out and killing everyone.
 
popo said:
My bet is he forgot all about that gig as soon as the cheque cashed.

A friend of mine (who is an idiot) paid a silly amount of money to have "breakfast with the captains" at one of those lame Star Trek conventions. Apparently Stewart was the only one who wan't disappointing. According to him, Shatner was "half asleep", Sisko didn't turn up (he was billed although I thought he was a commander?) and Janeway was on her mobile phone all the time.
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I can't imagine a more uncomfortable situation. Meeting an actor for a brief moment and maybe taking a photo could be cool but spending an entire meal with a group of actors that are only attending because they are being paid to do so, seems like a bad idea.
 
popo said:
A friend of mine (who is an idiot) paid a silly amount of money to have "breakfast with the captains" at one of those lame Star Trek conventions. Apparently Stewart was the only one who wan't disappointing. According to him, Shatner was "half asleep", Sisko didn't turn up (he was billed although I thought he was a commander?) and Janeway was on her mobile phone all the time.
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I'm not way deep into Star Trek so I may be off-base with this, but every behind the scenes story or anecdote I've read has Patrick Stewart being a real bro just overall.

Hot Coldman said:
So, er, Patrick Stewart is Chancellor of my uni, so when/
if
I graduate, I could totally just say "thanks Zobek" and see what happens.
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Press Y to accept diploma.
 
Felix Lighter said:
I can't imagine a more uncomfortable situation. Meeting an actor for a brief moment and maybe taking a photo could be cool but spending an entire meal with a group of actors that are only attending because they are being paid to do so, seems like a bad idea.
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Totally, although it wasn't as awkward as I maybe made it sound, it was part of a convention package and there were maybe fifty fans, not a one on one or anything. Sounds like a terrible way to earn a living but I guess if you take the money you have to commit and put on a show. Not as if Stewart and Shattner need the money. As I say though, Stewart was apparently the only one who acted like he wanted to be there so full credit to him.
 
Stupid question, but I messed up my video settings. I got the "Allow Fullscreen" popup while getting a GB video in fullscreen, and I accidentally clicked "Deny" while I had "Remember my settings". Now the videos refuse to play in fullscreen.

Any help? Tried deleting flash cache.
 
Patrick's piece on the Fez II fiasco is great. I'm glad that, whilst the rest of the Internet runs around, picking sides, calling names and generally continuing the sowing of negativity and conflict that people like Beer and, yeah, Fish love to cultivate, Tricky knows better, and isn't gonna get swept up in this garbage.

Kinda what I like about Giant Bomb. They're pretty on top of what's worth caring about.
 
Hot Coldman said:
Patrick's piece on the Fez II fiasco is great. I'm glad that, whilst the rest of the Internet runs around, picking sides, calling names and generally continuing the sowing of negativity and conflict that people like Beer and, yeah, Fish love to cultivate, Tricky knows better, and isn't gonna get swept up in this garbage.

Kinda what I like about Giant Bomb. They're pretty on top of what's worth caring about.
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It is a good article, but I'd say it reflects how level-headed and reasonable Patrick Klepek is, not the site as a whole.
 
Truant said:
Stupid question, but I messed up my video settings. I got the "Allow Fullscreen" popup while getting a GB video in fullscreen, and I accidentally clicked "Deny" while I had "Remember my settings". Now the videos refuse to play in fullscreen.

Any help? Tried deleting flash cache.
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Pretty sure the "Allow Full Screen" flag is stored as a cookie. Try clearing GB-specific cookies first, if that doesn't work, delete them all.
 
Hot Coldman said:
Patrick's piece on the Fez II fiasco is great. I'm glad that, whilst the rest of the Internet runs around, picking sides, calling names and generally continuing the sowing of negativity and conflict that people like Beer and, yeah, Fish love to cultivate, Tricky knows better, and isn't gonna get swept up in this garbage.

Kinda what I like about Giant Bomb. They're pretty on top of what's worth caring about.
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Another Patrick Klepek article about Patrick Klepek!
 
eznark said:
Another Patrick Klepek article about Patrick Klepek!
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I really like Patrick's writing, and his own experiences with the contingent of GB fans who dislike(d) him and were very vocal about it is completely relevant, but he has to be very careful not to fall into that Leigh Alexander (who he is a fan of) shaped hole of assuming the reader cares at all about the personal experiences of the writer.
 
Zaph said:
I really like Patrick's writing, and his own experiences with the contingent of GB fans who dislike(d) him and were very vocal about it is completely relevant, but he has to be very careful not to fall into that Leigh Alexander (who he is a fan of) shaped hole of assuming the reader cares at all about the personal experiences of the writer.
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Well Giant Bomb is a personality based gaming website.
And judging by how fanatical people can get both on the GB forums and right here on GAF, I think there's a large enough group that does remain interested in the personal side of things.
 
eznark said:
Another Patrick Klepek article about Patrick Klepek!
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Yeah, sure. It didn't derail his point, though.

There's nothing overly wrong with referring to personal experience when writing on a subject, even if you're not directly involved. There's definitely a line to walk between waffling and pertinent referencing, though; Scoops for me usually walks just on the right side of that line.
 
1% of the internet ruin it for the rest might be a valid point of view but he also gave Fish a pass. Constantly baiting and trolling for attention. Does not excuse that 1% but does enable them.
 
Hot Coldman said:
Yeah, sure. It didn't derail his point, though.

There's nothing overly wrong with referring to personal experience when writing on a subject, even if you're not directly involved. There's definitely a line to walk between waffling and pertinent referencing, though; Scoops for me usually walks just on the right side of that line.
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Scoops Klepek is the Johnny Cash of video games.
 
Hot Coldman said:
There's nothing overly wrong with referring to personal experience when writing on a subject, even if you're not directly involved. There's definitely a line to walk between waffling and pertinent referencing, though; Scoops for me usually walks just on the right side of that line.
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I just have trouble reading Patrick's article in a vacuum and not seeing it as a continuation of the long line of self-important, soul-searching, click-bait articles about one guy who made one game maybe quitting the biz.
Phrasing stolen from Casey Loe's twitter - COME BACK WAHP!

Not really Patrick's fault since I thought the article was fine but sometimes you just need the sense to say "I have nothing of merit to add so I'll just sit this one out."
 
D4Danger said:
those people would be sending him death threats regardless (like this for example)

twitter has empowered the dregs of the internet.

another recent example -> https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/361597288478547968
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As far as we are aware though it was not really the extreme posters, the death threats and the vile abuse, but the milder critiques, like the press, who pushed him over the edge - and he totally invited a lot of those critics.

I mean, to revisit that "japan" issue. I don't believe him to be racist at all but he is a smart guy. He must have known what he was doing and what reaction he would get.

He didn't need to quit the industry (taking his claim at face value), just quit twitter, to save him from his own mouth if nothing else.
 
Patrick's a little off the mark in his op-ed because he primarily uses his own experiences as references. For whatever perceived faults Patrick may or may not have, the worst of those faults isn't in the same galaxy as Phil Fish's behavior (which was summed up nicely by gaffer Jeff-DSA in the main thread about Phil Fish's meltdown.) The mocking insults toward Patrick's deceased father were repugnant and the threats of rape against his wife are horrifying.

My opinion of Phil Fish turned for the better after he was on this year's GDC stream. Previously, after the Japan games thing, I didn't think much of him at all. Not because of anything "racial", but because to ridicule a fan who literally traveled halfway across the world to come and see you and is excited to ask you a question as a fellow game developer... that is douchebag behavior on a scale so completely beyond what anyone representing Giant Bomb would ever engage in.

And Patrick even acknowledged how great the 99% of Giant Bomb fans are. Well, what Phil did was shit someone who was part of that 99% of his own fan base for absolutely no good reason, and then he acted smug about it. If you're going to treat your 99% like that, then the vicious 1% is going to eat you alive. And that's exactly what happened. It's a cumulative effect. Phil Fish has said and done a lot of shitty stuff, and Newton's Third Law applied.
 
Does anyone else think that they've retired ILM? They seem to be getting back to normal, but that hasn't returned, and I'm really not surprised.
 
Gotta say, at the beginning of UF, that big space in the middle of the couch...my heart sank a little.

But they were on key, and I was laughing pretty hard throughout the rest of the segment. Everyone's getting back to normal.
 
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