LegitMcfalls
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While not the best superhero movie or a great movie to end the dark knight trilogy, it is still by far the best super hero trilogy we have seen.
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God! Nolan's Dark Knight Rises is such a terrible movie!
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Yeah not like there was a scene where Alfred explains he goes on holiday there every year and goes to that specific cafe every Friday evening hoping to see Bruce. Totally just happened to be there!
autumnleaf
Member
Alfred said he went there during Bruce's time away before Begins not that he goes every year, and he went on "Any fine Friday evening" (whatever that means) not every Friday. He doesn't even specify which cafe it is or time so presumably Bruce and Selina sat there for hours waiting.
The whole thing is really a stretch.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I mean...is it really about politics though in a Batman movie?
I personally love this movie. TDKR>Begins>TDK
Love ALL of them.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
One "TDKR is garbage" thread per week seems to be new norm 
But seriously, it's a good movie, even with all it's flaws.
But seriously, it's a good movie, even with all it's flaws.
Goes there when Bruce is gone. He's gone at the end of TDKR.
And plenty of information for a movie. Saying an address or date or time is something like no movies do since it's a waste of the audiences time.
And this is a batman movie saying that's a stretch is hilarious.
autumnleaf
Member
Hey I'll meet you at that cafe in Florence on Friday evening. See you there.
Hope you complain about pretty much every movie and tv show ever then since they all do similar things.
Yeah let's stretch out an already long movie to add some pointless dialogue.
Tried watching Begins, bored me to tears and I was rolling my eyes at Katie Holmes.
Watched The Dark Knight in the cinema when it was released and I couldn't believe the bullshit I was seeing in that one, even though Ledger did an awesome Joker.
Haven't seen that third one though.
Watched The Dark Knight in the cinema when it was released and I couldn't believe the bullshit I was seeing in that one, even though Ledger did an awesome Joker.
Haven't seen that third one though.
"And they didn't even say goodbye before hanging up the phone!"
This always does bother me though, makes the character look like an asshole! It's just few seconds, you can leave that part in.
There are great parts in it but it's all over the place thematically and politically to a degree that still bugs me. It felt very much like a reply to the Occupy Wall Street protests that were contemporary around its release but I don't think it was a particularly good reply.
That said, I liked Bane a lot. Not my ideal version of the character but Hardy's take was very entertaining (and it's fun to talk like him).
That said, I liked Bane a lot. Not my ideal version of the character but Hardy's take was very entertaining (and it's fun to talk like him).
That said I still hated how he was ultimately Talia's lackey. Bane is nobody's henchman, and I was annoyed that they ultimately made the same mistake Batman and Robin did but more artfully.
Goldenroad
Member
It's the worst Nolan Batman movie, but it is still 1000000x better than any DC movies since.
This is true (I don't like dark knight rises). The disguise isn't just about appearance but personality. Clark kents glasses are probably the least aspect of his disguise.
mugurumakensei
Member
No. I'd rank it above Suicide Squad but below Man of Steel and BvS. It's way way below WW.
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I found it to be the most truly comic book of the three and thats no compliment. Ridiculous secret ninja prison, a burly thug group to fight, CGI sunrises and snow everywhere, the city somehow allowing a private nuclear project be under the city center, Bruce somehow magically regrowing cartilage,and somehow every single cop being sent into that tunnel?
What the fuck that is so bad and comic book cheesy
What the fuck that is so bad and comic book cheesy
I liked parts of it. Catwoman was okay, but Burton's Catwoman is SO MUCH BETTER in every way.
In fact, Batman Returns is tied for me as the best Batman there is. Probably with Dark Knight or Begins depending on my mood.
EHHH IDK. I would rank it above all of those and I don't particularly like it.
In fact, Batman Returns is tied for me as the best Batman there is. Probably with Dark Knight or Begins depending on my mood.
EHHH IDK. I would rank it above all of those and I don't particularly like it.
Didn't the joker die at the end of TdK?
ROUGE_BLOCK
Member
Flawed but was still a great movie, he's a very consistent director. You have to really dig deep into his movies to get detailed criticisms where most other Hollywood films you can a level them one a surface level and then dig really deep. The ones I wasn't too fond of was Interstellar and the Prestige. Though Interstellar grew on me but that was because of that amazing soundtrack and cinematography.
That being said the Dark Knight Rises does have a lot of glaring plot holes and pacing issues, and jumps in the narratives where I totally get where people can't get pass because they are very noticeable.
That being said the Dark Knight Rises does have a lot of glaring plot holes and pacing issues, and jumps in the narratives where I totally get where people can't get pass because they are very noticeable.
No, he was left hanging off the side of a building.
ROUGE_BLOCK
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WaterAstro
Member
Nah, Thor 2: The Dark World is the worst movie
at being the worst, therefore it is the best movie.
BinaryPork2737
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It's by far the worst film in the trilogy. It was such a letdown compared to the first two films. The acting is all over the place, it gets really goofy when it shouldn't be. Talia's death and WHERRRRE'S THE TRIGGGGEERRRRRR really stick out in this regard. Bale's Batman voice was pretty goofy at times in the first two films, but the latter scene takes the cake in terms of how awful his voice is.
I still think that it's an alright film overall, though, it's just disappointing compared to what came before.
I still think that it's an alright film overall, though, it's just disappointing compared to what came before.
This is a whole new level of nitpicking.
DarkJediKnight
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The movie feels lazy. The city of Gotham is a character in the 3rd act yet is basically Manhattan. Really?
At least make look like the 1st nolan movie.
Can't hold a candle to Burton's Moody Gotham city which is still the standard.
DarkJediKnight
Member
I think the 3rd one tries to do too many things.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
It was average at best. I had to watch it 3 times on theaters because I was dating a Nolan fan when it came out. Thank god we broke up and I don't have to see any fucking Chris Nolan film ever again in my life.
This is the main thing I felt throughout the movie. Ledger affected so much
yeah it felt like all the right ideas were there but they had to make up for such a huge missing piece and came up with a lot of stuff that was sort of just... whatever. but yeah, joker wouldve been absolutely amazing in this scenario, tota anarchy etc had occured and it would have been glorious. i still think they shouldve grew a pair recasted him for sake of the story.
GitarooMan
Member
Saw it twice in theaters. I like it a lot.
wait, WTF? hed made a lot of different movies... not a single one is good to you?! youre seriously never going to watch Dunkirk?
Naw, I got it. Just didn't give a shit about any of them. Closest I got to any of the characters was mildly pained expression boat captain.
Vault Dweller 111
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I think I agree. And I wouldn't watch it now unless I was on a Dark Knight trilogy rewatch. But that being said, I don't hate it and think it has some good moments. And I was absolutely smitten the first time I saw it in theaters. Of course back then I was younger and the hype alone probably would've made me love it even if it was complete shit.
riskybusinesstomcruise
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Not gonna lie, thought this thread was gonna be some meta NeoGaf parody
Sooo many montages/exposition. Too much in terms of suspension of disbelief. Cheap shitty cgi football stadium with a guy outrunning explosion, vs. awesome practical effects blowing up an actual hospital in tdk. Cotillards death. Bruce magically fixing his destroyed spine over and over. Batman finding time to setup the pyrotechnics on the bridge while people die. Batman walking in on the ice that's too thin to support people. Batman getting chased from every angle perfectly into an alley where his massive vehicle is magically hidden perfectly without anybody ever finding it. Bane's death. So on and so on. I haven't seen it in quite some time now, but there was a ton about this movie that wasn't good.
yanipheonu
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I seem to recall a bit in the novelization of Rises where despite most criminals being sent to Blackgate, the Joker was still kept in Arkham Asylum. And even Bane was apparently not crazy enough to let him out.
They keep it pretty vague whether or not he escaped, and I don't blame them for keeping his whereabouts secret for the sake of mystery.
facetheslayer92
Member
It was amazing watching it with hundreds of other fans in a theater.
The movie has 3 plot twists and only one of them works, the one that works is
, here are the two the don't work
1.
2.
that Batman lives in the end
1.
Robin: What was the point of that reveal other than being a nod to the fans? It serves nothing in the context of the plot.
2.
Talia: Again, this reveal doesn't really change the plot in any meaningful way, she could have been anyone and the story wouldn't change.
PunishedOkabe
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Dr Pavel. I'm CIA
TheChewyWaffles
Member
The Dark Knight is his best film, and Ledger is why.
edit: I edited out "hack", but it's darn near the truth. The Prestige and Dark Knight are good movies, but after the disappointment of TDKR and Interstellar I started having doubts about his elite status. Begins is nowhere near as good as people say it is.
edit: I edited out "hack", but it's darn near the truth. The Prestige and Dark Knight are good movies, but after the disappointment of TDKR and Interstellar I started having doubts about his elite status. Begins is nowhere near as good as people say it is.
Dr. Carroll
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What's curious is that David Goyer essentially recycled his own material. Or at least material he worked on.
Lest we forget that the Goyer-penned Call of Duty: Black Ops featured Reznov (Gary Oldman) and Mason (That guy from Avatar) escaping from a Russian gulag, with the crowd shouting, "Ascend from darkness!" Black Ops was a really good game with some really sharp writing. TDKR was elevated by Hardy's performance as Bane.
Now, now. Nolan has some really good movies under his belt to be called a hack. Momento, The Prestige, Inception, Insomnia and many other are great.
SonicMegaDrive
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This, alongside Superman Returns, Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, and Spider-Man 3 are the worst movies ever made and they ruined my childhood forever.
I liked it.