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Good god, what did IGN do to this review?
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godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
:lol reviews....
while i'm not one to wish unemployment on a guy in the run up to christmas during the greatest economic downturn of modern times....well, avi, maybe you can trade that journalism degree for a jolly red hat and a fake white beard.
i can't think of a more effective way to demonstrate your absolute and irrefutable inability to perform your job than this uncultivated bile.
i can't think of a more effective way to demonstrate your absolute and irrefutable inability to perform your job than this uncultivated bile.
Ghost said:
It really isn't. While the scores isnt the main issue as people already stated, 9.1 is perfectly valid and pretty much expected for a franchise that is widely considered the best in the genre. 9.1 reflects its status as a AAA manager game.
2.0 is a score that was only 'beaten' by 14 other games, in the history of IGN pc reviewing.
JetSetRadio
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That reviewer might be even dumber than dr. phil :lol
JonathanEx
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Blimey are all the players pussies or something? I've just lost 3 of them in one match.
I wasn't expecting that level of realism with them all faking injuries, so I wonder if you can instruct them to make a racist comment in the press.
I wasn't expecting that level of realism with them all faking injuries, so I wonder if you can instruct them to make a racist comment in the press.
No, that would make the review more useful to a small, hardcore audience. In fact, their extensive familiarity with the series would probably make them less useful to a wide audience. It's very hard to cast aside that understanding and perspective. Things that seem to make sense might only be that way because they've been done that way for a long time. To an outsider, they could be totally nonsensical.dfyb said:
If I were to go look at a review of Madden '10, I'd want to know "How well does this game explain itself for those of us who might never have played Madden?". To me, it looks pretty daunting. Reassurances that its easy to learn how to play in Madden '10 from someone who's played Madden '96-'09 might be unconvincing.
you're contradicting IGN's own review guidelines (which are actually pretty good, if only they'd follow them) and just plain old sound logic.Slavik81 said:
IGN said:
nobody's going to click to read a soccer manager review if they aren't interested in a soccer manager game. and if they happen to want a regular soccer game, they'd find out the soccer manager game wasn't for them by simply reading the text in the review.
let's say a newbie did review a game... and now it may benefit some other newbies. oops, the review is now worthless to most of the game's market. but the experienced player could still benefit the newbies as well, because they'd know more about the changes that may or may not make it easier for new players.
in essence, you don't get some uneducated newbie to educate others about something.
edit: fuck it. i'm now repeating myself. fuck GAF.
Ghost said:
The UI is not garbage, definitely.
To the people that have been playing the serie for a long time, there's no problem whatsoever. I do admit that for someone new to the game it's a bit overwhelming at first, but with patience (and if you don't have patience, don't bother playing WSM) you can "get" the interface in less than an hour.
Shake Appeal
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The UI is far, far better than, oh, say, the average JRPG's.
itsinmyveins
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Slavik81 said:
Dude, you could probably say the same thing about the Civilization games too.
cultofweaver
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Ghost said:
What's wrong with the UI?
The whole game is set out to replicate the real world equivalent of whatever the page is attempting to do. If you are on the News section then the screen is laid out as if it were Outlook, click on a subject and the message is displayed on the bottom screen.
The squad pages are just a table of players names and a series of stats that can be resorted however you want. You want to know about a specific player...just click on his name and go to the players individual page.
Tactics are probably the most complex part of the game (and where the most dedicated players spend most of their time as it's where you turn good teams into great teams most effectively when you know what you're doing) and even that page is blindingly simple to use. A diagram of the pitch, the players represented by where they stand on the pitch in the current formation, a drop down menu to select different formations and another to select individual and team instructions. You want to withdraw one of your forwards to turn a 4-4-2 into a 4-4-1-1? Just drag the players number to the gap between midfield and the front line. You want to play long ball football? Set the tallest forward to a Target Man and pick direct passing, channeled through the middle.
If you don't have a clue about football then most of it will look like gibberish, but then if you don't have a clue about football you probably will never play Football Manager anyway. It is marketed, designed and regarded as the ultimate in-depth simulation of the sport. If you don't think you have the knowledge of the game to coach Football (or at least bullshit about it) and have no inclination to spend a few hours learning how to then don't play this game.
It's called Football Manager. It simulates being a Football Manager. Booting up the game and discovering that it's a series of spreadsheets with the names of footballers on it should be the least surprising turn of events imaginable.
TheDrowningMan
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That is the worst review I've ever read. I mean, I have Football Manager fatigue and am not interested in buying this year's iteration at present, but come on....
Metal Gear Solid 4 is so shit for not letting me play Mario Kart at Shadow Moses. I cannot imagine why anyone would rather play MGS4 than Tiger Woods 2009 or Singstar.
That is the worst review I've ever read. I mean, I have Football Manager fatigue and am not interested in buying this year's iteration at present, but come on....
Metal Gear Solid 4 is so shit for not letting me play Mario Kart at Shadow Moses. I cannot imagine why anyone would rather play MGS4 than Tiger Woods 2009 or Singstar.
Prime crotch
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There's supposed to be a patch out that fixed the very high injuries number.JonathanEx said:
JonathanEx
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Well Steam didn't download it this morning, and if it did, it's not a very good patch.Prime crotch said:
Who the hell is complaining about the user interface? It's really good already considering how much there is to do when nothing is automatized; and the FM fan community is fantastic, coming up with great graphical tweaks as the year goes on.
Sorry, but a bit of research is not asking too much from reviewers, or people defending said reviewers.
FM 2009 may not deserve a 9 out of 10 grade, but that's only because SI perfected the engine prior to this year, especially from 2006 to 2008. They still have a lot to do with 3D, but that only means that as it stands, it's at least an 8 out of 10.
Sorry, but a bit of research is not asking too much from reviewers, or people defending said reviewers.
FM 2009 may not deserve a 9 out of 10 grade, but that's only because SI perfected the engine prior to this year, especially from 2006 to 2008. They still have a lot to do with 3D, but that only means that as it stands, it's at least an 8 out of 10.
Reminds me of this review of Giga Wing 2 - It's abundantly clear that the reviewer didn't know anything about shooters.
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/165/165588p1.html
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/165/165588p1.html
Teknopathetic
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This is *pretty* pathetic. This is what passes for writing at IGN, apparently. People defending the review are almost as bad. There's no defense of this, whatsoever.
Poimandres
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Honestly, I have no interest whatsoever in playing this game- but with a niche genre like sports management it seems fairly clear that the game should be reviewed for its probable audience.
Seriously, games like this only appeal to a certain type of person. It should be reviewed relative to their expectations.
Seriously, games like this only appeal to a certain type of person. It should be reviewed relative to their expectations.
A Black Falcon
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Akuun said:
Giga Wing 2 is a completely awesome game, that's for sure...
I think this case is even worse though. I mean, 2.1? That's just insane. At least Giga Wing 2 got a 5...
Whether the concept has merit and whether IGN allows it are two separate things. I'll totally agree with you if you want to make the case that this guy wrote a poor IGN review because it wasn't following IGN review guidelines.dfyb said:
However, I still maintain that a review written by a less experienced person can sometimes be more useful to a wide audience than a review written by an expert.
Sure. That's ok with me.ItsInMyVeins said:
Of course they can sometimes be useful to a wide audience, can this statement be any more all-encompassing?
The way this review is written and the justification behind the score is that this game wasn't another game. I haven't read most of this thread, but is anyone arguing that this is an effective and useful way to review a game?
travisbickle
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AnnSwag said:
They gave the gameplay 9.0 and lasting appeal 9.5, it's an amazing game just because there's a poorly implemented 3D engine doesn't detract from that.
Ryu Hayabusa
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IGN Ratings for Worldwide Soccer Manager 2009 (PC)
4.0 Presentation: No Madden in the cover
2.0 Graphics: No UE3
0.5 Sound: No "eat sh*t and die"
4.0 Gameplay: No Guns
2.0 Lasting Appeal: Fulbo?
2.0 OVERALL
4.0 Presentation: No Madden in the cover
2.0 Graphics: No UE3
0.5 Sound: No "eat sh*t and die"
4.0 Gameplay: No Guns
2.0 Lasting Appeal: Fulbo?
2.0 OVERALL
A Black Falcon
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Kryten said:
Wow, awesome... obviously they listened. I wonder if they'll re-review it... what'll it get this time, a 3.0?
(But seriously, the review was so obviously wrong that they definitely did the right thing.)
Ken Masters
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SupahBlah said:
why? silencing peoples opinion's on their shit reviews and getting called out on it should be applauded?
Psychotext
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look at the guy's face... :lolKen Masters said:
SapientWolf
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Yeah, but if he gave the game a higher score there wouldn't have been this much of a backlash. If he rewrote the review and kept the score people would still come after him with fire and pitchforks.pilonv1 said:
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