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[GK86]

its out of the realm of possibility. Nobody blocked FIOS, plus the other provider couldn't pay enough money to make up for the lost money of the customers. Its not at all beneficial, or legal.

Well, of course it isnt legal, never said it was.

 

[Tacitus_]

How does Google make money from the $300 construction charge? I'm thinking 5MBs down is enough for most folks who don't consume lots of streaming media. I'm sure the service will be spotty too. 7 years is not promotional pricing.

If you're streaming from one source at a time, it's more than enough. Youtube consumes maybe 200-300 kbps for HD videos.

 

[mattiewheels]

Anyone have an idea why a city like Miami has no fiber services at all? I'd die for something like this but I can't find a single thing anywhere.

 

[gcubed]

Well, of course it isnt legal, never said it was.

but its not beneficial either. It won't happen, anyway, i'd love to hear from Google if they plan on expanding beyond muni stuff

 

[Wallach]

10GB Down for $70 cannot possibly make up the difference for the free users. I think this is similar to their gmail strategy of announcing such huge capacity knowing most users won't be able to utilize most of it. I wonder if they'll try monetizing the users by forcing them to choose Google services. That would be my analysis.

I'm talking about people that would be using the internet at all only because the "free" option exists. Google makes money from people using the internet, and there are still a lot of people in this country who simply don't because they can't afford to. Part of this drive is an effort to get internet to people who have no internet, not just raising the standards of speed. It's a very long haul business plan, I'm sure.

 

[SyNapSe]

Now if only they would stop with putting ridiculous high-speed service in cities and give us that live just outside of suburbia something faster than dial-up.

I live about 8 miles from the nearest town, and 4 miles from where Time Warner stops their internet service, although we get cable TV from them. Their explanation? The equipment/lines in the area are too old for internet and they will never replace them, but they are quick to offer me their digital TV packages.

They're businesses it has to be profitable. This expansion into just the populated area's of KC probably cost a fortune for google. You're best hope is wireless/LTE and whatever it's next iteration is.. as that's far easier to provide to rural area's than running new line everywhere.

 

[GK86]

but its not beneficial either. It won't happen, anyway, i'd love to hear from Google if they plan on expanding beyond muni stuff

I dont see how it wouldnt be beneficial. We have people in this thread, saying they arent interested since it wont have espn.

This is all moot, since, like you said, it wont happen. Im interested to hear how they plan to select the next city(cities), if they pan to expand.

 

[FACE]

http://fiber.google.com/plans/residential/

FREE 5mbps internet!

$70 for 1000mbps download / 1000mbps upload

NO DOWNLOAD CAPS.

I want this so bad. Google PLEASE go nationwide.

I think in the UK you can get speeds comparable to our US DSL speeds for just a few £ per month usually under £10. So FREE 5mpbs from Google isn't too surprising.

I hope Google brings this to Brazil.

 

[kehs]

How does Google make money from the $300 construction charge? I'm thinking 5MBs down is enough for most folks who don't consume lots of streaming media. I'm sure the service will be spotty too. 7 years is not promotional pricing.

1 Gigabit of information per second they can data mine pays itself of in about .5 seconds.

 

[SyNapSe]

Anyone have an idea why Miami has no fiber services at all? I'd die for something like this but I can't find a single thing anywhere.

You have fiber it's just commercial only and that's because the cost to bring fiber to a building can be prohibitive (at least for what a residential user is willing to pay).

 

[gcubed]

I dont see how it wouldnt be beneficial. We have people in this thread, saying they arent interested since it wont have espn.

This is all moot, since, like you said, it wont happen. Im interested to hear how they plan to select the next city(cities), if they pan to expand.

companies wouldn't be willing to pay more then what Disney can get/make from Google for carrying ESPN.

 

[marathonfool]

I'm talking about people that would be using the internet at all only because the "free" option exists. Google makes money from people using the internet, and there are still a lot of people in this country who simply don't because they can't afford to. Part of this drive is an effort to get internet to people who have no internet, not just raising the standards of speed. It's a very long haul business plan, I'm sure.

I just don't see the plan to expand is through low income users who can't afford the internet right now. I can see it tethered through their own services. In a metropolitan city, it's hard to imagine market penetration is low enough to justify such a strategy.

I definitely welcome this new service as it serves to undermine the telecom monopoly pricing that exists in many cities. I've always heard broadband is overpriced in America, I hope that's true. I can see why Google would like to make some head way.

 

[GK86]

companies wouldn't be willing to pay more then what Disney can get/make from Google for carrying ESPN.

Agree to disagree.

 

[Red_Man]

I would do disgusting, criminal things to get this in Canada.

 

[cajunator]

The fiber network my city laid out 3 years ago just now started to turn a profit this year. Its not a cheap buildout, and especially not for the kind of speeds this is expected to offer. But it will definitely start to pay off.
Lafayette had to fight tooth and nail with COx communications and Bellsouth in order to get this network built though. It took half a decade of court battles.

 

[Awesome]

If you guys look at the TV lineup list the whole thing isn't final, of course they will be carrying ESPN, that's a staple of pay for television.

 

[bounchfx]

san fran. do it. DO IT

 

[Awesome]

Roanoke is also green, people are wanting it fast.

 

[jj984jj]

Bring this to Canada please! ;_;

 

[cajunator]

You guys do realize they are going to take several years to roll this out right? After that it will take many more years before the results of this are studied and they decide to expand it.
Your best bet is to lobby your local city govt to try to get a municipal network going.

 

[Cyrillus]

10GB Down for $70 cannot possibly make up the difference for the free users. I think this is similar to their gmail strategy of announcing such huge capacity knowing most users won't be able to utilize most of it. I wonder if they'll try monetizing the users by forcing them to choose Google services. That would be my analysis.

That is how all ISPs are run. You over-provision your network because you know all your users aren't using all the bandwidth they pay for at all times.

 

[Cold-Steel]

We surrender our bags of milk!

JUST COME TO CANADA WITH YOUR UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH

 

[Awesome]

You guys do realize they are going to take several years to roll this out right? After that it will take many more years before the results of this are studied and they decide to expand it.
Your best bet is to lobby your local city govt to try to get a municipal network going.

For everybody that wants the internet they are definitely better off moving there just for the internet, they are never going to come here to NYC which makes me angary.

 

[Wallach]

I just don't see the plan to expand is through low income users who can't afford the internet right now. I can see it tethered through their own services. In a metropolitan city, it's hard to imagine market penetration is low enough to justify such a strategy.

I definitely welcome this new service as it serves to undermine the telecom monopoly pricing that exists in many cities. I've always heard broadband is overpriced in America, I hope that's true. I can see why Google would like to make some head way.

The fact that they offer this option at all just tells me that they believe that the average revenue per household using the internet - if not right now then at some point in the relatively near future - eclipses the cost of serving them some basic level of service. What they don't want is for the expansion to happen in the future that makes the low-income bracket more lucrative data-wise and for them to not already be in the dictating position; that is, I think the endeavor here is such a huge undertaking they are unwilling to risk leaving any segment behind since right now they have a clean opportunity in basically all pricing segments. I'm sure given the nature of the rest of their business they're happy to eat a significant cost here in the present.

 

[makingmusic476]

You get a Nexus 7 tablet with the $120 plan? Wow.

And what does "full channel TV line up" mean. Is it just Google TV? I thought the content on there was weak.

 

[kehs]

You get a Nexus 7 tablet with the $120 plan? Wow.

And what does "full channel TV line up" mean. Is it just Google TV? I thought the content on there was weak.

There's a channel list right here.

This thing isn't even using Google TV. lol. Come one Google, wtf.

 

[Metroid Hunter]

GOOGY PLEASE COME TO CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SouthernDragon]

I'd say its a good 5 years away from spreading exponentially. It took them forever for a subsection of KC

The first step is always the hardest.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/23/google-fiber-beta-test-goes-live-bathes-stanford-in-high-speed/

Close enough?

OH GODS YES

But wait... residential homeowners?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Metroid Hunter]

I really hope pray that Apple and Microsoft join Google in competition, and threaten the Canadian government they will cease all products/services in Canada then start rolling it out here, WHILE BELL AND ROGERS SUFFER.

 

[TacticalFox88]

So...when I return from overseas, they'll have this almost everywhere right?

 

[gcubed]

The first step is always the hardest.



OH GODS YES

But wait... residential homeowners?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

unfortunately in the US, every time you move to a new municipality you start over from the first step

 

[Awesome]

4 neighborhoods green already, moving damn fast.

 

[EvilMario]

GOOGY PLEASE COME TO CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We must protect the consumers from evil corporations like Google. Now go bend over for Rogers and Bell.

 

[ezrarh]

How does Google make money from the $300 construction charge? I'm thinking 5MBs down is enough for most folks who don't consume lots of streaming media. I'm sure the service will be spotty too. 7 years is not promotional pricing.

If I'm imagining it correctly, they won't have to do it again should somebody else move in and want to get Google service. So it'd be an investment for life - or for as long as the house remains.

 

[Atrus]

As yet another Canadian, I can only express my =( at such prospects.

It would probably be blocked at the federal level anyway (from too much lobbying and personal backscratching). We would never want companies like Bell, Shaw, and Rogers to have to start competing with foreign entities that may dare offer us better performance, service, and price than we plebs truly deserve.

 

[duderon]

Here are the maps for each city. Kansas City, MO already has three fiberhoods that meet the requirement!

http://fiber.google.com/cities/kcmo/#header=check

http://fiber.google.com/cities/kck/#header=check

It will be fun to watch this grow.

 

[LordCanti]

So close....yet so far away.

Anyone want to roommate it up in the fiber zone? ;_;

 

[tw1164]

How does Google make money from the $300 construction charge? I'm thinking 5MBs down is enough for most folks who don't consume lots of streaming media. I'm sure the service will be spotty too. 7 years is not promotional pricing.

This is just to get their foot in to people's door. If you sign for the low cost now they can easily switch you over the a paying plan later. I would suspect that also helps the company's numbers when reporting to investors/business partners.

 

[Babalu.]

I want sooo bad but it will not happen this decade. You guys are delusional if you think they will expand into more then 10 or so cities this decade.

 

[Awesome]

But what happens if you move into a qualified neighborhood but that house wasn't signed up for it within the next few months? I don't understand if there is a deadline to pre-register even if your whole neighborhood is qualified.

 

[jeremy70583]

Looks like they are targeting the south first. Sucks I can't even be this in downtown north Kansas city, much less once I move to zona rosa

 

[midonnay]

If I'm imagining it correctly, they won't have to do it again should somebody else move in and want to get Google service. So it'd be an investment for life - or for as long as the house remains.

so googles actually the ISP?

wow, I thought they would just provide the fibre and let carriers run services over the top.

 

[duderon]

But what happens if you move into a qualified neighborhood but that house wasn't signed up for it within the next few months? I don't understand if there is a deadline to pre-register even if your whole neighborhood is qualified.

I'd imagine people would be able to sign up anytime after the fiber rolls out in their neighborhood.

 

[beanman25]

Please come to St. Louis!!!

 

[Awesome]

I'd imagine people would be able to sign up anytime after the fiber rolls out in their neighborhood.

Wow turns out that you can't.

If your fiberhood meets its pre-registration goal, you can choose a service package shortly after September 9th up through when we begin construction in your fiberhood. You will not be able to choose a service package after we've started construction in your fiberhood.

That makes no sense at all, so if you don't sign up within a certain timeframe you can't get the service even if your whole neighborhood is pre-qualified. That be sucks man.

 

[Expendable.]

I pre-registered on Google. Come to NYC!

 

[Thermite]

1 gb........per second!? Mother of god. WANT. TO. BUY.

 

[Expendable.]

Man, once this shit takes off it will be game over for ISPs. Knowledgeable experts, how long do you think it will realistically take to get to major cities? 5 years?

 

[Razorskin]

Man, once this shit takes off it will be game over for ISPs. Knowledgeable experts, how long do you think it will realistically take to get to major cities? 5 years?

:lol

 

[bigtroyjon]

Man, once this shit takes off it will be game over for ISPs. Knowledgeable experts, how long do you think it will realistically take to get to major cities? 5 years?

50 years would be a better guess than 5.