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Posting PMs without permission is not cool at all. Private messages are private for a reason. If senders wanted the world to know it, they would post it on a message board.
 
onlyindreams said:
yes im insulting someone making a topical South Park analogy. okay.

it's not trolling either.
We have insiders INSIDE MICROSOFT SAYING THAT PEOPLE SHOULDNT CONSIDER BUYING THE THING. It frustrates me that people complain about the state of the industry and then willingly choke down shit like this. I loved my 360 for most of this gen. I'm not some sony warrior. Every thing we know about the xbone suggests its a fucking mess.

I want to play Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive. I would be buying one if it wasn't for everything thats come out in the past couple months but I canceled my preorder a few weeks ago. It was just too much. Every day there's something new. Penello/Greenberg/Nelson lying and misleading people in their PR, cboat/famousmortimer leaks, resolution troubles. The games don't matter. These people going "herpderp but the gamezzzzzz" are bad consumers and responsible for everything this forum complains about.

sigh i dont know why I even care just forget it, its your $500 not mine
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we have no idea he's inside ms and frankly I don't believe he'd be so ready to work against his own company's launch and tell people to avoid his own product thus selling the opposition if he was. someone close but not that close. hence key mistakes like downclocks.
 
godhandiscen said:
I am buying two.

I want to play Killer Instinct, Crimson Dragon and Forza 5. Also, I can't wait for the next Halo. What is wrong with buying a console for the games?
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Nothing at all.

crazy buttocks on a train said:
yaes. Ripend tools helalp. Dvoper familiarty 2. same thihg ocuredwithn ps3cel last tme rou^nd.

@@#ESRMA is handicap prob for now but workarohd wil cume.

Hdwaarwe powr is alwysa behnd tho. never chagns,ing. wo cpomlet HW upate. 900-720p wil be norm. gamwes wil be goud !!thoug and that hwath mat ers. just struggle mre to wok on xon.

I hgu you friend flesh itw alget bettr I promise (:
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Majanew said:
Those aren't there any longer due to consumer disapproval. So... how are those that are buying Xbox One, bad for the industry?
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there are those that believe in the idea that MS showed their true colors with the original reveal...that is what they want for the industry, and will continue to move in that direction...

and lets be honest...their reversals were in response to potential sales numbers....not simply people saying they didn't like it...

MS has also continued since then to be the company that has deceived (at best), and in some cases flat our LIED to us as consumers...

Majanew said:
I don't want anything that PS+ offers other than the MP. I don't give a shit what Xbox Live Gold brings other than MP. I have to pay for online on both. This isn't a value vs value argument. It's Sony placing MP behind a paywall just like Gold. Sounds pretty anti-consumer to me. Those buying PS4 are bad for the industry?
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this guy right here has the Ecto Cooler straight flowing through his veins....

you dont want anything that PS+ offers because you cant seem to pause your console warrior mode and take a step back and realize what you're saying...there are games that were given to me by Sony for being a PS+ member that i would have never even thought to play but have increased my enjoyment of this generation...

as for the value arguement...what are you talking about? its ALWAYS a value argument lol...

I absolutely agree that Sony moving multiplayer behind a paywall is an anti-consumer move...the blow however is lessened (for me) because i was already a PS+ member, and see the value in that program WAY beyond multiplayer...

but totally Sony should be called on it...and they have been...unfortunately for MS they have made bonehead and bonehead move this generation

and i already pay for XBL as well so its really a "whatever"
 
Hydrogen Bluebird said:
Getting a PM from CBOAT is like getting a call from the US president.
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ThisWreckage said:
This is a load of shit that has been making its rounds for a while now. The Xbox is not being singled out. People raked Sony over the coals last generation with the 599 price point, giant enemy crab, the PS3 has no gamez, Lair/Haze, the PS3's struggling online community, etc. And Sony deserved every single bit of it. But now that Microsoft has fumbled the ball and traded places with Sony a certain sect of this community is trying to pull this card. Am I supposed to feel sorry for a company that squandered everything they had? Microsoft is now a victim? What a load of shit.

It's the same three or four people in every thread trying to make Microsoft out as a victim and working overtime to defend a company. Sad.
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The people who are defending Microsoft are fucking idiots. The faster everyone unites and calls MS out on their bulllshit the faster MS will turn things around and we will ALL benefit from a stronger competitor. I say the same thing to Nintendo fans but you get the same nonsense from those fans insisting there is nothing to worry about and everything is just dandy
 
Echoenigma said:
Because a company that would even consider implementing such policies, and would have if not for the intervention of watchdog websites and consumer advocacy groups, should not earn your money. The policies may not be in place, but the people who made decisions like that possible very much are.
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Sony had the same intentions. DRM/blocking used games was very unpopular and MS were the ones that continued on that path until it was causing harm to potential sales. And if MS were successful with it, you better believe Sony would have jumped on. And that's my point. If Sony is for consumers and MS isn't. Then Sony would not implement anything that an anti-consumer company were doing with their device. Hello, pay to play online.

Metfanant said:
this guy right here has the Ecto Cooler straight flowing through his veins....

you dont want anything that PS+ offers because you cant seem to pause your console warrior mode and take a step back and realize what you're saying...there are games that were given to me by Sony for being a PS+ member that i would have never even thought to play but have increased my enjoyment of this generation...

as for the value arguement...what are you talking about? its ALWAYS a value argument lol...

I absolutely agree that Sony moving multiplayer behind a paywall is an anti-consumer move...the blow however is lessened (for me) because i was already a PS+ member, and see the value in that program WAY beyond multiplayer...

and i already pay for XBL as well so its really a "whatever"
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Console warrior mode? Damn. I guess my pre-ordered PS4 and BF4 was just my imagination. It's not value. I have had no need to buy PS+ on PS3. But if the online was locked into PS+, I would have had to. Sony knows this, so they threw it in to get mah monies. I guess those free games weren't good enough of a value, huh?

Metfanant said:
and lets be honest...their reversals were in response to potential sales numbers....not simply people saying they didn't like it...
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That's consumers saying they didn't like it. What else would the reason have been? Disliked the name?
 
Anticitizen One said:
The people who are defending Microsoft are fucking idiots. The faster everyone unites and calls MS out on their bulllshit the faster MS will turn things around and we will ALL benefit from a stronger competitor. I say the same thing to Nintendo fans but you get the same nonsense from those fans insisting there is nothing to worry about and everything is just dandy
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ok so i might blow your mind here

but they may be satisfied with nintendo's current output if they're saying that
 
something fishy said:
we have no idea he's inside ms and frankly I don't believe he'd be so ready to screw his own company's launch and tell people to avoid his own product thus selling the opposition if he was.
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Boat's been around since the 360 launch if not before. He's just a believer in transparency, whereas most companies aren't. MS always has the option to delay the launch if they are having technical issues, if they won't and it seems likely, cboat has taken issue with that.
 
TetraGenesis said:
Whoa. I had not seen that. And you're sure he wasn't just referencing general graphical discrepancies? I'm not doubting you, just trying to get an idea of the context.
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Can't say for certain, but thats how i interpreted it. Also thanks Mr. Moose i feel dumb now haha.
 
Majanew said:
Sony had the same intentions. DRM/blocking used games was very unpopular and MS were the ones that continued on that path until it was causing harm to potential sales. And if MS were successful with it, you better believe Sony would have jumped on. And that's my point. If Sony is for consumers and MS isn't. Then Sony would not implement anything that an anti-consumer company were doing with their device. Hello, pay to play online.
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[Citation Needed]

jordan0386 said:
Cboat doesn't even know what side he is on. Slurred speech and thoughts.

That post says games will be fine. Now he is saying, don't buy it.
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He's saying don't buy it because even though the games will be playable, the vast majority will have better performing counterparts on the PS4. Unless you're hard up for MS exclusives, his advice applies to the consumer.
 
travisbickle said:
Boat's been around since the 360 launch if not before. He's just a believer in transparency, whereas most companies aren't. MS always has the option to delay the launch if they are having technical issues, if they won't and it seems likely, cboat has taken issue with that.
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yeah so must be close enough to get decent info about it.

we'll see. it's getting so close now anyway.
 
First of all i am getting both consoles because I am not biased and love video games. But why does Gaf have so much hate towards our American company Microsoft and the Xbone? It will pump out some amazing titles just like the PS4.
 
Is there a definitive CBOAT list of reasons not to buy an xbone so far?

Not reasons why a PS4 is better but xbox being bad
 
Stimpack said:
Maybe he thought the P stood for Public.
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It's unbelievable. To break the trust of someone who has PRIVATE messaged you and post it as a thread?

If CBOAT wanted to post that on the forum he could have done it himself. Very easily. How have the mods allowed this?
 
travisbickle said:
Boat's been around since the 360 launch if not before. He's just a believer in transparency, whereas most companies aren't. MS always has the option to delay the launch if they are having technical issues, if they won't and it seems likely, cboat has taken issue with that.
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I don't think he's having issues with the lack of a delay, but more with the general strategy of MS with the Xbox One.
 
Echoenigma said:
[Citation Needed]
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http://kotaku.com/5896996/the-next-...m_source=kotaku_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Just like the next Xbox/Durango, we've heard from multiple sources that the Orbis will likewise have some kind of anti-used games measures built into the console. Here's how our main source says it's currently shaping up: new games for the system will be available one of two ways, either on a Blu-Ray disc or as a PSN download (yes, even full retail titles). If you buy the disc, it must be locked to a single PSN account, after which you can play the game, save the whole thing to your HDD, or peg it as "downloaded" in your account history and be free to download it at a later date.
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It was obviously very unpopular. Jack Tretton came out a few months later to say he opposed blocking used games. I guess MS didn't care and continued on.
 
I cant believe Butt Train Buttocks anymore just seems to have to much of a agenda, yes he might of told us correct information in the past and was quick to make a thread about it but that was early dev stuff where problems needed fixing.Somtimes he was just telling us how shit the X1 was pffftt.Now on the first days that the none insiders are getting there first titbits of real info he post this crap(nice timing dont ya think).The guy doesn't even have the balls to post it himself.My god.

Both systems will burn but i have no proof!!!!!
 
mocoworm said:
It's unbelievable. To break the trust of someone who has PRIVATE messaged you and post it as a thread?

If CBOAT wanted to post that on the forum he could have done it himself. Very easily. How have the mods allowed this?
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It's journalism dude. NeoGAF does what IGN doesn't.
 
God fucking damnit GAF, I haven't done any gaming in 3 days because I've been too busy sitting on GAF waiting for new CBOAT bombs.
 
Anticitizen One said:
The people who are defending Microsoft are fucking idiots. The faster everyone unites and calls MS out on their bulllshit the faster MS will turn things around and we will ALL benefit from a stronger competitor. I say the same thing to Nintendo fans but you get the same nonsense from those fans insisting there is nothing to worry about and everything is just dandy
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Defending Microsoft on what subject? Because there are a lot being thrown around lately.
 
He sent you that in private OP, not cool man.
Next up in trashy magazines: cboat exposed, naked cheek pictures that a prostitute took while he was asleep.

Metfanant said:
this guy right here has the Ecto Cooler straight flowing through his veins....

you dont want anything that PS+ offers because you cant seem to pause your console warrior mode and take a step back and realize what you're saying...there are games that were given to me by Sony for being a PS+ member that i would have never even thought to play but have increased my enjoyment of this generation...

as for the value arguement...what are you talking about? its ALWAYS a value argument lol...

I absolutely agree that Sony moving multiplayer behind a paywall is an anti-consumer move...the blow however is lessened (for me) because i was already a PS+ member, and see the value in that program WAY beyond multiplayer...

but totally Sony should be called on it...and they have been...unfortunately for MS they have made bonehead and bonehead move this generation

and i already pay for XBL as well so its really a "whatever"
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wow the irony
Shame on you console warrior for defending online paywalls, shame on you.
 
Majanew said:
Sony had the same intentions. DRM/blocking used games was very unpopular and MS were the ones that continued on that path until it was causing harm to potential sales. And if MS were successful with it, you better believe Sony would have jumped on. And that's my point. If Sony is for consumers and MS isn't. Then Sony would not implement anything that an anti-consumer company were doing with their device. Hello, pay to play online.
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woahhhhh....you better be able to walk the walk if you're going to make claims like that...you have any legit evidence to back up the idea that Sony had similar DRM policies in play??

Sony is still a corporation...they need to make money...and the multiplayer paywall is a very tempting payday....they could have taken the route of MS and put all their media features behind the paywall...or party chat...or F2P games...but they didn't...

not to mention they are still giving free games away as well....


Majanew said:
Console warrior mode? Damn. I guess my pre-ordered PS4 and BF4 was just my imagination.
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that doesn't prove anything

Majanew said:
It's not value. I have had no need to buy PS+ on PS3. But if the online was locked into PS+, I would have had to. Sony knows this, so they threw it in to get mah monies. I guess those free games weren't good enough of a value, huh?
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it IS value....there is a difference between a service being a value, and a necessity...

you dont HAVE to buy PS+ youre free to take your gaming to any other platform that you feel is more consumer friendly than Sony...like Nintendo, or the PC...

those free games (among other things) were a good enough value for A LOT of people to sign up for PS+ n the PS3...but of course online multiplayer is going to generate more income for Sony...

anti-consumer? yup...smart on Sony's part? also a yup...using your logic the simple fact that a company charges you for a product would be anti-consumer...

Majanew said:
That's consumers saying they didn't like it. What else would the reason have been? Disliked the name?
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there is a difference between people complaining about something...and realizing "oh shit, nobody is buying our console"
 
Bobnob said:
I cant believe Butt Train Buttocks anymore just seems to have to much of a agenda, yes he might of told us correct information in the past and was quick to make a thread about it but that was early dev stuff where problems needed fixing.Somtimes he was just telling us how shit the X1 was pffftt.Now on the first days that the none insiders are getting there first titbits of real info he post this crap(nice timing dont ya think).The guy doesn't even have the balls to post it himself.My god.

Both systems will burn but i have no proof!!!!!
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The guy didn't have the balls to post a private message that he sent that had absolutely zero rumors? And you're saying that he posted this crap?

Man, this thread is quite a shitshow. I wish CBOAT himself would post, just to drop the bomb on these haters and nonbelievers.
 
Gillian Seed said:
First of all i am getting both consoles because I am not biased and love video games. But why does Gaf have so much hate towards our American company Microsoft and the Xbone? It will pump out some amazing titles just like the PS4.
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What does the country of origin of the Xbone have to do with anything?
 
Echoenigma said:
And why would that rumor be construed as reliable? It's not like they have a track record like cboat. There's no reason to trust them.
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Kotaku were the first to break the codename Orbis, which is correct. So, their sources aren't good, but others are? CBOAT never said anything about PS4 other than being wrong about when PS4 releases.
 
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