Hurricane43
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And take-two still losing money in quarterly earnings...
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Grand Theft Auto series has sold over 220 million units worldwide
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Enter The 36 Chambers
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Well, GTA IV sold a lot, too, so not always.
Battleborn will bomb. A heavy one too.
Look at GAAP and non GAAP figures and you'll find your answer.
Opposite day already?
Not really? I was just trying to bring in a fact that would blow peoples minds and provide perspective.
You must have missed my Buy a Wii U thread - http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1067618
Seems I did...still don't kick when someonw is down, it's mean lol
I agree with this. That being said, R* ain't getting any money from me for their online stuff. I refuse to pay for MTs on a game I already paid for (plus I really dislike how MTs influence game design and yes, you can see where they made online feel a bit grindy to encourage you to pay for MTs. I bet online would have had some better game design if they weren't trying to encourage MT purchasing. Like not charging anyone for blowing up some one's car).
But... I'd totally buy GTA V single player DLC. So, here's some money they are missing out on by focusing on online content and not SP content.
How is sharing a fact the "ultimate in Nintendo shitting"? Its an interesting comparison that puts that number into perspective.
D.Lo
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That's a lot of GTA5.
But for the rest, something doesn't add up.
There are seven main GTA titles (five numbered plus VC and SA), plus Chinatown Wars, LCS and VCS. Everything else is add-on packs/DLC. That means after the top two, either the others games have sold 17+ million each on average (extremely unlikely for the likes of VCS and CW and does not make sense of sales data we have), or:
1) They're counting DLC downloads as individual sales
2) Cheap mobile versions of old games made up the numbers
Most likely both.
Non-retail sales are pretty hard to verify these days anyway. What counts as a sale, even $1 for a retro download on sale in an app store? Not exactly fair to lump that in as the same thing as full retail game sales.
But for the rest, something doesn't add up.
There are seven main GTA titles (five numbered plus VC and SA), plus Chinatown Wars, LCS and VCS. Everything else is add-on packs/DLC. That means after the top two, either the others games have sold 17+ million each on average (extremely unlikely for the likes of VCS and CW and does not make sense of sales data we have), or:
1) They're counting DLC downloads as individual sales
2) Cheap mobile versions of old games made up the numbers
Most likely both.
Non-retail sales are pretty hard to verify these days anyway. What counts as a sale, even $1 for a retro download on sale in an app store? Not exactly fair to lump that in as the same thing as full retail game sales.
That's just about the worst list I've ever seen. Tetris is at the top based on a press release about a combination of multiple mobile titles, from 2010!
Since GTA5 launched there have been an additional ~85 million units sold in the series.
We know 54 million is attributed to GTA5 which means that an additional ~31 million units of GTA have been sold since September 2013.
This will have been attributed to older games, PC sales and Mobile sales.
I would therefore assume that Mobile makes up the majority of that 31 million, (GTA3, VC, SA, CTW)
ultratruman
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*Scottish
That's not Nintendo shitting! It's an observation!
D.Lo
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Exactly. I bought GTA3 on sale for I think 99c on iPhone, mostly as a curiosity of playing a PS2 game on my phone. And that's counted here.
I mean yes technically it's a game sale so I can't argue, but it's truly not the same thing in reality as full retail sales.
I do think they're most likely also counting DLC as 'game sales', which is a bit less legit IMO, although GTA4 DLC did get disc releases.
Good Guy Gone Bad
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54M copies of GTAV. Jesus.
No wonder R* has the free reign to take years to make these games, the series is a behemoth and hasn't shown signs of slowing yet.
No wonder R* has the free reign to take years to make these games, the series is a behemoth and hasn't shown signs of slowing yet.
Me too haha, I think I've just played it once.
But I don't think they're counting DLC, especially when you look into how Take Two usually report numbers.
Just full game retail releases and full game digital downloads. Whether that be on Console, PC or Mobile. Expansion packs would count, but not actual DLC.
DLC wouldn't come under that.
Before GTAVI, we need RDR2, Agent, Bully 2
JetSetRadio
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The only games I ever had to preorder because of a real sold out risk.
SupperCrunch
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Rockstar's success really makes you wonder what they're going to make next. I mean, look at what they have focused on the last three years:
2013: GTA V
2014: GTA V (New Gen)
2015: GTA V (Heists/PC)
Even then, Rockstar has traditionally focused on one game a year, but they've really stretched GTA V! What I don't understand is why Strauss Zelnick has denied Story DLC, because that would be sure to sell quite a bit. Have Take-Two changed their position since then?
2013: GTA V
2014: GTA V (New Gen)
2015: GTA V (Heists/PC)
Even then, Rockstar has traditionally focused on one game a year, but they've really stretched GTA V! What I don't understand is why Strauss Zelnick has denied Story DLC, because that would be sure to sell quite a bit. Have Take-Two changed their position since then?
They still continue to deny that story DLC will be launching.
I think they want to monetize the online aspect more and create content for that.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Take Two is my number one favorite publisher ever. Every single game that has come out of them, I owned and ad crappy ad some of their policies and support for certain games are.... This is well deserved. To me, there's just no one who makes truly fun games like them.
speculawyer
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Well, GTA is a great series. Particularly the latest version.
I think the unannounced game is now announced, Mafia 3.
I think the unannounced game is now announced, Mafia 3.
speculawyer
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Zelnick did flub that question during the conference call. The company later issued a statement retracting what he said.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/20/gta-v-story-dlc-is-on-its-way-after-all-says-take-two-5206323/
The only game I think must be a sequel to RDR
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Chance Hale
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Have you driven in California?
Shieeeeeeeet
KeyChainDude
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Would Agent count as an "unannounced new IP" if it is to be re-revealed? I still have hope lol If it doesn't happen we can always wait for Bully 2.
It's not a new IP (well it could be). It's just an unannounced AAA game.
So it could be a new IP or a sequel or something else.
Yes it could be Agent. Yes it could be Red Dead Redemption 2. Yes it could be Grand Theft Auto 6. Yes it could be Borderlands 3.
SupperCrunch
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It's interesting reading that, as I forgot about the mention of new assassinations and flight school missions as part of story mode! My guess based on the information would be that the scope of their story DLC has expanded and has probably caused significant delays (much like how rockstar said they had to go back to the drawing board for heists).
I don't think Rockstar would be developing Borderlands. Isn't that done by Gearbox usually under 2K? I also don't think well see a new GTA until the end of this generation, and if it's Agent, it probably will be different from the original concept in a but the name. I predict Rockstar to probably make a new Red Dead, Bully, or New IP altogether (in that order of likelihood).
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
No.
If they're like the Ai in this there must be a vehicle related death ever 2 seconds