GrotesqueBeauty
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All I need to know is if the screen tearing is completely gone. I hate that shit.
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Graphics Comparison: God of War Collection Vs. Originals
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Valkyr Junkie
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brain_stew said:
I know
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18385190&postcount=39
I was just giving him what he wanted
StreetDisciple
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I don't understand some of the complaints here, the game looks great.
infinityBCRT
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True, but when played on a PS3 using the upscaling/smoothing option it looks more like the first set of captures (except not nearly as dark). MGS3 looks like a blocky game on my HDTV, reminds me of how 320x240 games would look on old school CRTs. But when I turn on the upscaling/smoothing it looks pretty darn close to MGS4 in Image Quality (obviously frame rate and certain textures/models are not as good though).brain_stew said:
theignoramus
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Or they threw this project at a couple of junior programmers.whitehawk said:
DownLikeBCPowder
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WickedLaharl said:
Really does. The colors don't look as good or anything... in some ways the grain looks good on SD..
I'd like to see it in action (demo hello? lolpsn) before deciding, though.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
1) Take popular PS2 games
2) Make no changes whatsoever other than making it output at a higher resolution
3) ???
4) Profit
2) Make no changes whatsoever other than making it output at a higher resolution
3) ???
4) Profit
I'm only interested because I never played the PS2 originals. I've no idea why anyone would double dip so quickly just to get it at a higher res...
Unknown One
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That's because owners of both GOW games know it looks like ass on a HDTV.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Ballistictiger said:
Just about everything does that's not an HD game.. it's sadly sucktastic.
theignoramus
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Nah, the Call of Duty games look fine.Kureishima said:
MvmntInGrn
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They look better than a lot of other PS2 games I think, I played both for the first time on an HDTV.Ballistictiger said:
strideramc
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I never beat the first one, and never got around to picking up the second one. Looks like now is the best time to play through these. Glad I waited...:lol
Unknown One
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Pretty much. 720p with 2xAA seem good to me rather then sucktastic quality.Kureishima said:
THE Caffeinated
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RurouniZel said:
Trophies, the old games looks like ass on my HDTV and now they're on one disk. If you love the games and have a HDTV it's a no brainer.
RurouniZel
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diddlyD said:
THE Caffeinated said:
Like I said, "Make no changes whatsoever other than making it output at a higher resolution"
People are going to spend $40 for trophies? Really? I guess people'll pay for anything these days...
stephendedalus
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Kureishima said:
It's like a... like a "reward' almost.
The IGN comparisons are amazing. It's crazy how a little AA and native resolution boost can do. I agree it looks washed out but it still looks way better than the original. So that's welcome. Although, it wouldn't have hurt to add some more contrast and lighting. Why let all that power and bluray space go to waste? This is how it should've looked like and should've been in 1080p considering it's running on the ps3.
Now that would've been a treat for ps3 gamers especially newcomers to the franchise.
Now that would've been a treat for ps3 gamers especially newcomers to the franchise.
Unknown One
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Who are you trying to convince man? The people here are fans their mind is already convinced. Not everybody have BC and this is a good chance for them.RurouniZel said:
720p, 2xAA, no screentearing for both the GOW games and GOW 3 demo to boot. Trophies are just a plus not a necessity.
Actually the PS2 games runs at 640x360 in 16:9 mode.Valkyr Junkie said:What are you talking about? Those pictures are a real-world representation of what the PS2 GOW games will look like on a HDTV, and what the new PS3 versions will look like on an HDTV. What did you expect them to do in a 15-week port job? Did you expect them to spend a ton of money recreating every single art asset in the game?
Here is the real difference in quality between the PS2 and PS3 versions.
RurouniZel said:
Wait, wait... should I buy the $40 collection that will go in the PS3 I already own, or should I pay for both discs independently, a PS2, and an SD TV so my game doesn't look like a washed out mess? How much is that going to run me again?
As for the collection, the detail in the assets is absolutely astounding. Some of the collection shots look like what would have been "bullshots" a long time ago. Going to look great on my TV... plus, the wife watched the trailer and said "God damn, we have to get this." I love it.
brain_stew
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theox2g6 said:
The PS3 has always had a problem with rendering full resolution transparencies, and its strengths certainly don't lie in pushing a lot of polygons either. Those are essentially the two areas which God of War pushed the most, add in AA which the PS3 isn't particularly efficient with either and its not surprising they weren't able to manage a higher level of AA and 1080p resolution whilst still maintaing 60fps. The game was really tailor made arond whaT the PS2 could do well, and RSX is a very different beast to the old GS.
Ironically the game would be very suited to running on the 360 from what I can tell (as would a lot of PS2 titles as it happens), the stuff that the PS3's is really good at such as pixel shading will be very underutilised in this straight port.
rollingstart
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shintoki said:
haha, someone has never played a PS2 game on a PS3 (not surprising).
but no, hell naw, do PS2 games played on the PS3 look this good. PC emulators? yes.
Unknown One
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Thumbs up for this post.Linkzg said:
TheExecutive
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brain_stew said:
Ok, so ps2 ports would be awesome on the 360... sweet. Um, well, yeah... they didnt completely redo the game on a different engine. They made a couple of tweaks... I guess I dont understand your post and your inclusion of the 360 into the conversation but thumbs up anyway.
EDIT: Added the awesome bold
brain_stew
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TheExecutive said:
Its just a look at how certain art styles map to certain hardware. The best looking games on PS2 (GOW / Jak and Daxter / SOTC etc) really tied their art style to what worked best on the PS2 hardware.
That's why the textures in GOW each individually don't tend to use more than a few different colours, they're usually just different shades of the same colour, as the PS2's texturing hardware wasn't great so it was better to use textures with a low colour depth if you could. The PS2 could push a crazy amount of geometry and do some pretty nice stuff with transparencies and the like because of its insane memory bandwidth . GOW really pushed these areas because using an artstyle that emphasises a system's strengths and covers up its weaknesses is really going to help get the best possible graphics out of the system, especially when the hardware is so unique like the PS2 was.
Its simply coincidental that a lot of the areas the PS2 was really good at, RSX is not so hot compared to modern alternatives (like Xenos in the 360). A lot of the PS2 and 360's hardware strengths (like the ability to handle transparencies and push a lot of vertices) just happen to overlap is all (owing a lot to them both using eDRAM) and RSX and the GS in PS2 aren't a great match. Its why a 1080p, 4xmsaa GOW isn't really feasible on the PS3 despite the gap in many areas being absolutely huge.
CrushDance
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Honestly, after you got shut down by the Infinity Ward developer the other day, I thought you'd take a break from "the usual". But alas, who am I kidding! MW:Reflex is a much better game than any of those on the PS3. 15 weeks for a port.brain_stew said:
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