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Gregg Miller live tweets from PS4 presentation

AranhaHunter said:
Devs have to provide a map for the button configuration on vita. Let's take, for example, something like COD. I reckon devs would have to do something like this.

Circle - Circle
Triangle - Triangle
Square - Square
X - X
R1 - R
L1 - L
L2 - Touching left half of back touchpad
R2 - Touching right half of back touchpad
L3 - holding anywhere on the front touchpad
R3 - swiping ( or tapping ) the front touch pad

Could work, though it could be very uncomfortable playing COD with that set up. Maybe if you get a grip for vita? Sony should really release a vita tablet with an attachable pad that includes R2/L2 buttons.
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The vita sticks aren't pushable?
 
Dragon said:
Summary:
PS4's friend list is being expanded
Play Remote Play on Vita through home network or Internet
No support needed from devs for Remote Play besides Vita controller configuration
No support needed from devs for any streaming/uploading of videos
Controllers charge when off
Controller buttons are digital not analog
Controller keeps copy of user profile
Games are downloaded in chunks
Buy games/download demos from Playstation app on Android/iOS, immediately starts downloading on PS4
PS4 Eye can switch split-screen depending on where each player is sitting
Dedicated port for Camera, not using USB
Display true name on profile is optional, will be enabled if profile is imported from a social network, can then be turned off
Platform is 64-bit x86. Dev environment is Win7 64-bit VS2010, LLVM/Clang with C++11 support
new UI Looks a little AppleTV Netflix app with social integration crossed with flipboard
The PS4 will show the player's network at boot by default.
UI is meant to give you at a glance info without loading the game, new DLC, what friends are saying
Touchpad resolution is 1920 x 900
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Mark Cerny, by the gawds!

Can we already create a thread about this guy please.
 
Baconsammy said:
Splitting the consumer base on day 1 is idiotic.
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I personally don't care if they include it or not, but this stance is silly. Putting it in the box is a guarantee of nothing, unless it's required to use the console. If they made the choice to make its use optional, then making it a pack-in isn't going to alter its fortunes significantly.
 
outunderthestars said:
They did say that the core gamer was the central focus of the machine. Entertainment features are going to have to be there day 1 though. No console launches without entertainment/media features these days.
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I know they'll be there in app form. I'm not looking for anything crazy in that regard really. Unless it's something I don't even know I want yet. I just want my normal suite of apps like Netflix, Amazon, and whatever else.
 
nib95 said:
And that's why many people including me aren't as interested in the Wii. Too much emphasis on motion controls. Most gamers agree with that sentiment too.

Like I said, only way I think it's remotely fair is if the cost to the console is very little. Otherwise splitting the user base is just and will only reflect demand at the end of the day. The Move did as well as it did because people just weren't interested. Forcing them in to the PS3 would be a heavy handed way of trying to improve its success at the expense of customer choice and cost.
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I imagine most people's disinterest for the Wii was similar to my own. And it had nothing to do with the controllers but everything to do with the fact that it was Standard Def, had the shittiest online component of any of the consoles, and had god-awful first and third party support.
 
kaskade said:
I know they'll be there in app form. I'm not looking for anything crazy in that regard really. Unless it's something I don't even know I want yet. I just want my normal suite of apps like Netflix, Amazon, and whatever else.
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Yeah I think you'll get those type of announcements at E3. GDC isn't geared towards the mass audience in that way.
 
Baconsammy said:
Someone else compared it to the UI for Netflix on Apple TV. I'm hoping they were understating it, because the UI for Netflix on Apple TV is functional. That's the biggest compliment I can pay it. Maybe they just meant the lay out/look.
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They probably just mean big square icons. They also compared it to Flipboard I believe.
 
Remote Play already works on home network or across the internet. PSP even did it.

I don't doubt the PS4 will handle this better, but come on guys.
 
nib95 said:
Defending forcing something the majority of gamers don't want upon them... Wow.

Didn't expect any less from you. Preemptive damage control for when Microsoft forces Kinect 2 on it's user base I'd imagine.
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That's exactly why he is in this thread. To try and downplay the crushing blows from all this awesome GDC news.
 
KalBalboa said:
Remote Play already works on home network or across the internet. PSP even did it.

I don't doubt the PS4 will handle this better, but come on guys.
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Yeah the big difference is that it works with all PS4 games. I also have NEVER gotten it to work on the Internet (PS3/PSP).
 
I'm starting to get excited over the Remote Play possibilities but I won't be all-in until I actually see a video of lag-free Remote Play.

At the PS4 conference there was clearly major lag in the Knack Remote Play demo.
 
Wait, the touchpad on the controller is an actual screen? I thought it was just a touchpad like the one on the back of the Vita? If that's an actual screen with that resolution that is pretty amazing.

Given my investment in the 360 I really would like to stay on a MS system next gen but MS is going to have to have something huge to top what Sony is showing. It all sounds too good to be true.
 
Ace Harding said:
Wait, the touchpad on the controller is an actual screen? I thought it was just a touchpad like the one on the back of the Vita? If that's an actual screen with that resolution that is pretty amazing.
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I think it's just a pad. Resolution can be applied to those as well.. similar to something like how you can set the resolution of a Wacom tablet.
 
Ace Harding said:
Wait, the touchpad on the controller is an actual screen? I thought it was just a touchpad like the one on the back of the Vita? If that's an actual screen with that resolution that is pretty amazing.

Given my investment in the 360 I really would like to stay on a MS system next gen but MS is going to have to have something huge to top what Sony is showing. It all sounds too good to be true.
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I thought they confirmed it wasn't a screen.
 
Ace Harding said:
Wait, the touchpad on the controller is an actual screen? I thought it was just a touchpad like the one on the back of the Vita? If that's an actual screen with that resolution that is pretty amazing.

Given my investment in the 360 I really would like to stay on a MS system next gen but MS is going to have to have something huge to top what Sony is showing. It all sounds too good to be true.
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It's just a touch digitizer, no LCD screen.
 
nib95 said:
Not only is it dumb, it's anti consumer as well. But Microsoft (and Sony?) are doing it so he seems nothing wrong with it.
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No, dumb would be insinuating that its unscrupulous to make someone buy something that's part of your own vision for your own console. I assume the Eye plays a big role in Sonys thinking since they built a sensor onto every single dual shock that they're making. Kinda makes me think the Eye is important.

gofreak said:
Polygon mentions one little new detail - a long push on the share button takes a screenshot.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/27/41...s-social-functionality-dualshock-eye-gdc-2013

You would think this might be slightly redundant though, no? I would guess you'll be able to clip out 'perfect' screenshots from the last few minutes of recorded footage after the fact...instead of trying to time the perfect screen capture while playing.
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Have they showed the editing software yet? Or said that there will be editing software for the videos?
 
gofreak said:
Polygon mentions one little new detail - a long push on the share button takes a screenshot.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/27/41...s-social-functionality-dualshock-eye-gdc-2013

You would think this might be slightly redundant though, no? I would guess you'll be able to clip out 'perfect' screenshots from the last few minutes of recorded footage after the fact...instead of trying to time the perfect screen capture while playing.
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Not really. I'll probably be taking screenshots most of the time on the fly instead of going through recorded video. That is a big plus for me.
 
KalBalboa said:
Remote Play already works on home network or across the internet. PSP even did it.

I don't doubt the PS4 will handle this better, but come on guys.
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Actually it's not even worth a comparison with how useless PSP's functionality was. This is having EVERYTHING from your PS4 streamed onto your Vita from what it sounds like. It's completely different. You're underselling it like crazy.
 
Baconsammy said:
I imagine most people's disinterest for the Wii was similar to my own. And it had nothing to do with the controllers but everything to do with the fact that it was Standard Def, had the shittiest online component of any of the consoles, and had god-awful first and third party support.
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The motion control garbage was definitely the worst offender for me, especially in the first years where i still had an SD TV.
 
gofreak said:
Polygon mentions one little new detail - a long push on the share button takes a screenshot.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/27/41...s-social-functionality-dualshock-eye-gdc-2013

You would think this might be slightly redundant though, no? I would guess you'll be able to clip out 'perfect' screenshots from the last few minutes of recorded footage after the fact...instead of trying to time the perfect screen capture while playing.
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Or if you don't want to be taken out of the experience much of whatever you're playing.
 
Baconsammy said:
I imagine most people's disinterest for the Wii was similar to my own. And it had nothing to do with the controllers but everything to do with the fact that it was Standard Def, had the shittiest online component of any of the consoles, and had god-awful first and third party support.
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For me, it was solely the motion aspect. Good games are good games no matter the amount of pixels on the screen.
Waggling motions as replacements for button presses though? I don't want that. Neither do I want the incredible amount of low-budget motion gaming shovelware burying the other games and muddying up the target audience, causing third-parties to jump ship or release half-assed efforts.
 
Baconsammy said:
I imagine most people's disinterest for the Wii was similar to my own. And it had nothing to do with the controllers but everything to do with the fact that it was Standard Def, had the shittiest online component of any of the consoles, and had god-awful first and third party support.
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Now couple that with it being a forced proposition.
 
l3lacklvlagic said:
So you could bring your controller from your house to your friends and it will log you in automatically?
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If it's like how I envisioned then yes. Your saves and settings are auto transferred over, so you don't have to go into settings to configure your controller for any games. Each game's settings are saved to the controller.

Though the design I posted on GAF, the controller has NFC so syncing your controller to the console is you just simply hovering your controller over the console.

I posted this back in late Jan early Feb before I knew what the controller looked like

Pg4.jpg
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Interfectum said:
Not really. I'll probably be taking screenshots most of the time on the fly instead of going through recorded video. That is a big plus for me.
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I hope you have the option though... I hate fumbling to capture shots while playing. If you can scroll through video frame by frame and get a shot out that way it'd be great for me. Although I guess by playing a video full-screen and pausing, and using the share button with a long push, you could do this ;)

edit - though, of course, the button method is good to have for non-game screen captures...
 
gofreak said:
Destructoid posted a bit more about the controller:

http://www.destructoid.com/ps4-controller-and-cameras-fully-detailed-at-gdc-249816.phtml

The improved rumble mentioned at the reveal features 1 large motor and 1 small motor 'for cool effects'
The gyro is upgraded over both DS3 & Vita
The top material of the analog sticks has changed
The LED is always-on
The triggers have 'smooth throw and linear output'
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Isn't this a downgrade? Add more motors, quadshock plz.
 
surly said:
That's different though, because that didn't affect peoples' ability to play games. If you had a 360 Core or Arcade, you could still pop in any disc-based game and play it, as there's no forced installs and patches were so small that they would fit on a memory unit.

If the PS Eye is packed in with every console, there's a greater chance that devs will support it, which may even lead to people changing their minds about it. But I do also understand the "I don't want to pay for something I don't want" argument, which is perfectly valid.
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Well, Halo 4 multiplayer is sort of a big exception to that.

Including it with the device will definitely improve support, but I don't think most on GAF care for it to be a focus or heavily supported to begin with.
 
Not going to lie, I am becoming slightly worried that the other shoe will drop at any moment. All of the news coming thus far for PS4 is sounding great with the only slight downside is no hardware BC.

I want to believe that it will be everything that we are hearing, but im really trying to remain grounded for a major flaw that could come. Sonys been my favorite of the hardware guys since the PS1 so if this is really going to be a true return to form I just cant wait. This year is going to take forever.....bring on E3 already dammit!
 
ReaperXL07 said:
Not going to lie, I am becoming slightly worried that the other shoe will drop at any moment. All of the news coming thus far for PS4 is sounding great with the only slight downside is no hardware BC.

I want to believe that it will be everything that we are hearing, but im really trying to remain grounded for a major flaw that could come. Sonys been my favorite of the hardware guys since the PS1 so if this is really going to be a true return to form I just cant wait. This year is going to take forever.....bring on E3 already dammit!
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They could destroy everything in an instant with a bad price. Lol.

I don't think they will, though.
 
ReaperXL07 said:
Not going to lie, I am becoming slightly worried that the other shoe will drop at any moment. All of the news coming thus far for PS4 is sounding great with the only slight downside is no hardware BC.

I want to believe that it will be everything that we are hearing, but im really trying to remain grounded for a major flaw that could come. Sonys been my favorite of the hardware guys since the PS1 so if this is really going to be a true return to form I just cant wait. This year is going to take forever.....bring on E3 already dammit!
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The only shoe that could potentially drop is either MS coming out with some massive megaton or the PS4 coming in at $500+.

Other than that the PS4 seems like everything we've been asking for.
 
gofreak said:
Polygon mentions one little new detail - a long push on the share button takes a screenshot.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/27/41...s-social-functionality-dualshock-eye-gdc-2013

You would think this might be slightly redundant though, no? I would guess you'll be able to clip out 'perfect' screenshots from the last few minutes of recorded footage after the fact...instead of trying to time the perfect screen capture while playing.
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Not redundant, because it only saves last 15 minutes. And thank God. I even suggested this. (Well, press for snapshot, hold for menu.)

gofreak said:
Maybe they mean 'in each handle'...for quad shock ;)
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It would have to be. Current dualshock only has 2 motors, 1 big and 1 small.
 
nib95 said:
Not only is it dumb, it's anti consumer as well. But Microsoft (and Sony?) are doing it so he seems nothing wrong with it.
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He doesn't seem to realize that if people don't give a shit about motion controls, the " userbase is going to be split " regardless and the only thing you've accomplished is raising the customers barrier of entry for something that he/she doesn't want.

Really a bad argument.
 
Triple U said:
He doesn't seem to realize that if people don't give a shit about motion controls, the " userbase is going to be split l" regardless and the only thing you've accomplished is raising the customers barrier if entry for something that he/she doesn't want.

Really a bad argument.
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Agreed.
 
The Friend system has been improved greatly over PS3, said Norden. As a side note, the social network features the use of true names. A player has two identities on the PS4 -- your user name and your true name. The true name will not be shown by default, but will be visible to those linked via Facebook or other trusted methods. Otherwise, you'll have to mutually agree to show true names (think Google and YouTube).
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So how about that Share button? Well, "Share" on the PS4 controller uses the system's hardware encoder, which is always recording the last several minutes of gameplay without using any additional system resources An example of a Share menu shows off the fact that you can upload a video to YouTube or Facebook easily -- background uploads can take place after you add a comment.
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A new spectating feature lets you stream video of live gameplay, but you can also watch other people play. This is all built into the PS4 hardware, so no work is needed from developers. Users can type comments in real time, and developers can implement those comments via an API in their game.
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"Play during download" is a key feature of PS4 for digital games, so you don't have to wait hours to play a hot new release -- immediate play is the goal. The game data will be split into multiple chunks and will enable the player to start when the minimum amount of data has been pulled down to the hard disk. Developers will be encouraged to create this minimum package to start players off.
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http://www.destructoid.com/ps4-friends-system-sharing-and-ui-detailed-at-gdc-249821.phtml
 
Vlodril said:
That sounds too good to be true. The word of mouth for both devices would be insane. Hey i have a break. Let me play x ps4 game with my ps vita..
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The real megaton would be if the rumored 4G vita came to fruition and you could actually play it anywhere there's a good 4G connection. For extra sauce have a tablet SKU of the 4G Vita. I'm currently at work and I wouldn't be able to play any PS4 games due to being behind a firewall.
 
Fancy Corndog said:
The real question is whether or not that's a good move on Sony's part.
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The Vita, on announcement, was everything GAF was asking for. And look what happened there.

GAF's definitely not a good representation for the wider gaming populace. Still, I think the PS4 has made a solid start to life.
 
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