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GT:HD will be playable at TGS, NOT GT5
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SolidSnakex
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Graphics Horse said:
GT2000 but that was actually going to be a game, this has never been intended to be one. It was similar though but GT2000 had improved car models while everything else was basically like running GT2 through the PS2's texture smoothing. Here's a comparison
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Zenith said:
The poor reception had less to do with the graphic quality of the vehicles/tracks, and more to do with how mind numblingly BORING the presentation was(i.e. how it was put together and what was said). It's not that GT:HD looked BAD... it's that it was a boring ass presentation.
To further muddy the waters..
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156575.html?action=convert&click=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;3
At first blush I saw this more leaning towards the suggestion that it'll be a release in its own right, but you could read his comments a number of ways.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156575.html?action=convert&click=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;3
At first blush I saw this more leaning towards the suggestion that it'll be a release in its own right, but you could read his comments a number of ways.
My Arms Your Hearse
Banned
Was anyone expecting GT5, which we haven't even SEEN in any form, to be playable?
And yea, Sony, just drop the whole GT:HD thing, it's stupid.
And yea, Sony, just drop the whole GT:HD thing, it's stupid.
SolidSnakex
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gofreak said:
I wish he'd just said if it was being released or not, that's alot of talk and it doesn't make alot of things clear. I'd buy it if its released though as long as its online.
meltpotato
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man... i don't care what happens, just as long as GT5/Vision is as exciting to play as GT3 was back in the day.
AndriaSang
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The Famitsu article that Gamesport refers to specifically lists the game as "E3-only Demo." It's still not officially planned as an actual release.
Zombie James
Banned
Maybe it'll be pre-installed on the hard drive, free with every PS3.
Wouldn't that be nice?
SolidSnakex
Member
_leech_ said:
If it were a full game wouldn't it take up alot of the harddrive space? GT4 was already like 4+gigs.
Zombie James
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SolidSnakex said:
Not if it's the same thing they showed at E3 (four tracks and a handful of cars and bikes).
Guns N' Poops said:
I'm guessing it will also have full online as well.
Polyphony is not wasting time at all ... on new HW ... they build a test-engine first, and then use that info to create a new engine for their actual release. Basically, they end up with a 2nd gen engine, but don't usually release an actual game with the first one. Remember GT 2000?
The only difference is they may actually release this one.
BTW - I'm going to guess GT5 will make PGR3 look like a turd (that isn't meant as a dis to Bizzare)
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156575.html
Polyphony Digital head Kazunori Yamauchi spoke about the next Gran Turismo title in the latest issue of Weekly Famitsu. There were two points of interest in the article. First, the parenthetical "working title" has been dropped from the name, implying that Gran Turismo HD is indeed the final title. Second, while Yamauchi lavished praise on the game's high-definition graphics, he stated that the game was not the true next-gen heir to the popular racing series' crown.
In the article, Yamauchi called Gran Turismo HD a "port" of the data from Gran Turismo 4, upgraded to take advantage of the PlayStation 3's graphical capabilities. He also said it is "a step in the process of developing a next-generation GT game."
Yamauchi also implied that development on that next-gen game is already underway, albeit at an early stage. "We are working on a version of GT that supports the full PS3 specification," Yamauchi said, adding, "but in this transitional version, I think you'll get a taste of the potential that next generation games hold."
Yamauchi said the idea for the game actually came from an unlikely source, the Photo Mode in GT4, which allowed players to take high resolution stills. "I thought it would be incredible to see these stills animated in real time," he said. Running at 60 frames per second in 1920x1080p resolution, Gran Turismo HD supports the very highest resolutions available to Japan's newest HD televisions, according to Famitsu.
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Now shut the hell up already.
GTHD is a port of GT4, as stated from the horse's mouth right to your asshole.
Polyphony Digital head Kazunori Yamauchi spoke about the next Gran Turismo title in the latest issue of Weekly Famitsu. There were two points of interest in the article. First, the parenthetical "working title" has been dropped from the name, implying that Gran Turismo HD is indeed the final title. Second, while Yamauchi lavished praise on the game's high-definition graphics, he stated that the game was not the true next-gen heir to the popular racing series' crown.
In the article, Yamauchi called Gran Turismo HD a "port" of the data from Gran Turismo 4, upgraded to take advantage of the PlayStation 3's graphical capabilities. He also said it is "a step in the process of developing a next-generation GT game."
Yamauchi also implied that development on that next-gen game is already underway, albeit at an early stage. "We are working on a version of GT that supports the full PS3 specification," Yamauchi said, adding, "but in this transitional version, I think you'll get a taste of the potential that next generation games hold."
Yamauchi said the idea for the game actually came from an unlikely source, the Photo Mode in GT4, which allowed players to take high resolution stills. "I thought it would be incredible to see these stills animated in real time," he said. Running at 60 frames per second in 1920x1080p resolution, Gran Turismo HD supports the very highest resolutions available to Japan's newest HD televisions, according to Famitsu.
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Now shut the hell up already.
GTHD is a port of GT4, as stated from the horse's mouth right to your asshole.
AlphaSnake said:
Ahh ... so it is exactly what I thought it was.
An engine test, just like GT 2000 ... only they will actually release it.
The only remaining question ... and to find out if everything I predicted is correct ... is whether they will use this as an online test as well. I have no doubt that they will do this internally, the question is whether that will actually be one of the features in the released version.
gamespot said:
I think this implies that GTHD will indeed be released as a game.
At E3 Kaz said that a GT game will be released shortly after the PS3 is released.
In Famitsu he says that GT5 is at an early stage.
He kinda confirmed it.
All the things he said at the E3 presentation always had lead me to believe that GTHD will be released as a game.
Expect to see this GT again at TGS.
Still, even if they release this GTHD game, at least give it some shader effects: HDR lighting, per pixel lighting, shadowmaps, bumpmaps and more than 12 cars plz and it needs some highres textures.
I posted that article just earlier on this page. As I said there I at first read it as a release, but I don't think it's crystal clear, particularly just looking at Yamauchi's comments (none of them are any different from what he's said before about it).
And AndriaSang posted just after that the same Famitsu article lists it specifically as a 'E3-only demo'.
And AndriaSang posted just after that the same Famitsu article lists it specifically as a 'E3-only demo'.
monkeymagic
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If it looks like GT4 photomode + online + more cars + 1080p/60FPS then great.
I'd buy it.
But from those (albeit early screens) it doesn't look much like photomode.
I'd buy it.
But from those (albeit early screens) it doesn't look much like photomode.
chaostrophy
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I'm not trying to sound like an xbot or anything...but this is basically the same kind of enhanced port that exists for every game on the 360's backwards compatibility list, right? The ones that are all free for owners of the original games?
There are differences.gofreak said:
After E3, (probably after the many were dissapointed seeing GTHD instead of GT5), he wrote an article in Famitsu, saying that he created that GTHD demo ONLY for the E3 show, because Ken personally asked him to show some GT at the pressconference.
Now he's saying that GTHD came from the Photomode in GT4.
Doom_Bringer
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what did i tell you guys yesterday? The game is going to be released hahaaaha! Believe!
chaostrophy said:
Not exactly, there's a few differences from GT4: You can race with bikes now, and the number of cars on-screen is 12 instead of 6(although in the GT:Vision videos they showed 20...). I might be seeing things but I think some of the textures were kinda improved, and there's more people on the tracks.
It still is a lame-ass GT4 port that shouldn't even exist in the first place, though.
monkeymagic
Banned
Here is what it might end up looking like at TGS:
I posted this shortly after E3 in a GTHD thread:
Why was the E3 demonstration 20 minutes?
Why was it playable at the showfloor when it won't turn into a game?
Why did he specifically say: Notice the short loading times. I don't think this comment is relevant to GT5 since the cars and tracks would take longer to load then PS2/GT4 graphics.
Also Kaz said, the next GT will be released shortly after the PS3 launch, he didn't say GT5.
Now in Famitsu he says that GT5 is in it's early stages, then how could you release it shortly after the PS3 launch?
Makes you wonder.
Prove me wrong Kaz, give us a clear answer.
Why was the E3 demonstration 20 minutes?
Why was it playable at the showfloor when it won't turn into a game?
Why did he specifically say: Notice the short loading times. I don't think this comment is relevant to GT5 since the cars and tracks would take longer to load then PS2/GT4 graphics.
Also Kaz said, the next GT will be released shortly after the PS3 launch, he didn't say GT5.
Now in Famitsu he says that GT5 is in it's early stages, then how could you release it shortly after the PS3 launch?
Makes you wonder.
Prove me wrong Kaz, give us a clear answer.
SolidSnakex
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gogogow said:
Which all can be summed up with this
Doom_Bringer
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monkeymagic said:
I will buy 1 copy please!
Zombie James
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What was shown at E3 took only three weeks? Wow...
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Sony I hate you so mcuh sometimes I just want to cut my self...
Stop wasting time and money on this pos.
Stop wasting time and money on this pos.
Doom_Bringer
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_leech_ said:
dude its bull shit damage control. 3 weeks? try 7 months
Zombie James
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Doom_Bringer said:
And what's your source on that?
Doom_Bringer
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_leech_ said:
lack of next gen Gran Turismo at E3. And now GT5 won't be at TGS either (mark my words right now!!)
SolidSnakex
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_leech_ said:
Absolutely nothing. Apparently Kaz and Polyphony have been doing nothing since they showed off the actual car models at TGS. If you believe what some people are saying.
Doom_Bringer
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SolidSnakex said:
They have been busy working on GTHD while a bunch of programmers are probably doing some R&D work on PS3. But I really doubt they have created any more assets since the TGS showing
SolidSnakex
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Doom_Bringer said:
:lol Good grief. It's been nearly a year since TGS and you honestly believe they have nothing else done with GT5 other than those 2 cars models?
Doom_Bringer
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SolidSnakex said:
these GT4 picture models look pretty sharp! They are probably using those.
My bet is: art is probably progressing nicely especially the track art!
A good chunk of programmers are probably playing around with the PS3 dev kits to see what things they can squeeze out of it and then balancing things like damage, polygons, numbers of cars etc. This takes a lot of time.
The audio team is probably re-recording the engine sounds to the full extent now that they have blue ray
The rest of team with some tech people are probably driving and testing cars daily for physics calculations.
Now it will take a lot of time for the game to come together so to shut up the fans they will launch GT HD this year