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GT6 will use addaptive tesselation
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thesuperfunk
Member
Thank You!
Sense this make none!
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
I posted those meshes as tesselation because those screens were used at presentation when kaz mentioned tesselation
there is full presentation already which i am trying to watch but i can't (video doesn't load)
TheGreyHulk
Member
that's cool. use whatever tricks you need to use to get the game to run at a smooth 60fps. that's all that matters... that and the hope of a ps4 version since i have no ps3 
Ardenyal
Member
There was a pic of a countach in one the threads.... will go looking...
Edit: cant find it :S it used to be standard but now its been spruced up.
here is confirmation of using adaptive tesselation on that models which i posted:
taken from conference video
here is exact moment
taken from conference video
here is exact moment
here :
look at the trunk under wing at the end of gif. Self shadows are simply much much much smoother than they were in GT5 (low res and hard)
they fixed them
I didnt write that there are no self-shadowing, but that it lack it n many instances.
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Where did they get that? o_0
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Shaders are definitely worse in GT 6.
Betta Lines
Member
Needs more evidence/receipts.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
They should've worked on the goddamn cardboard people... if they don't look good then i'd rather have empty benches...
1. I think it is to early to say that GT6 has problem with self shadowing. GT5 had terrible self shadows and GT6 looks like improved them a lot. We need to see some more footage to say that there are problems with it. Self shadowing really is hard to find depending on light condition and that is why in overcast setting there was no problem with self shadows in GT5 because you could hardly see them.
2. Source of this statement ? To me shaders looks the same if not better.
Septimus Prime
Member
Didn't Ridge Racer 4 hit around the same time as GT2? They serve completely different niches. I would imagine Driveclub would be the "arcade" racer for PS4, while GT would be the simulation racer.
Compare shots we have from GT 6 to shots from this thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413235&page=63
Shaders look more similar to Forza, than GT 5.
Punkster_NY
Member
so every developer out there should be using this tech by now,right? I mean why wouldn't you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQQpCd_vvGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW2I_c78Tds
to me it looks like it is more because of time of day than shaders used.
We need more footage.
The lighting style, based on the shots we've seen, definitely looks more in line with the Forza-style "glamour shots" ideal rather than the "realistic" style a lot of the community emphasizes.
Also tons of shadows missing on tracks. They had to cut somewhere ;\
GT 5
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8172/7902781802_1deb345b66_b.jpg
http://www.virtualr.net/wp-content/gallery/2387/gran-turismo-5-top-gear-test-track-5.jpeg
http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Round_5_Suzuka_Circuit.jpg
http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-e3-2010-screenshots-2-53.jpg
http://www.mivgo.com/wp-content/gallery/gt5/gran-turismo-5-i.jpg
GT 6
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_6-22073-2717_0067.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_6-22073-2717_0065.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_6-22073-2717_0040.jpg
GT 5
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8172/7902781802_1deb345b66_b.jpg
http://www.virtualr.net/wp-content/gallery/2387/gran-turismo-5-top-gear-test-track-5.jpeg
http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Round_5_Suzuka_Circuit.jpg
http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-e3-2010-screenshots-2-53.jpg
http://www.mivgo.com/wp-content/gallery/gt5/gran-turismo-5-i.jpg
GT 6
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_6-22073-2717_0067.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_6-22073-2717_0065.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_6-22073-2717_0040.jpg
Metalmurphy
Member
rehost the image
Shadows fixed?
Betta Lines
Member
This is up there with the best GT5 photos I've seen, possibly better.
HoodWinked
Gold Member
tesselation at this point is just one of those buzz words that people associate with awesome when results are always garbage.
LoD transitions in GT5 were already good and imperceivable. However if they are going to even scale up to the highest LoD model ingame then it would be a good thing.
LoD transitions in GT5 were already good and imperceivable. However if they are going to even scale up to the highest LoD model ingame then it would be a good thing.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Fuck get some glasses dude. They are extremely noticeable.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Just make a GT6 Ultimate version and release it shortly into the PS4 cycle.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Wow... so it can turn a cube into a car? Believe!
phosphor112
Banned
It's interesting, because Xbox has a tessellation unit in it's GPU, but it doesn't employ any forms of tessellation in game, (I think it does in replays though, but it 100% does in screenshots), and GT6 does it in game for LOD.
They were pretty obvious, unfortunately :/
xP.
Oh shoot...those soft-shadows look gorgeous. Nice find.
Again too little footage to tell. Silverstore does have shadows around track and will be probably 24h. Maybe you should chill out a bit and wait for footage ?
That depend what you mean by sacrifices. Using one model not 4 (lod) is upgrade not sacrifice. They had ton of time to upgrade their engine but they did it from scratch. They increased HDR quality by 50 times (where GT had already terrific HDR) by moving it to SPUs (from presentation).
From my look they upgraded a lot engine
Metalmurphy
Member
This isn't different lod model switches. GT5 already had those.
HoodWinked
Gold Member
No they are not that noticeable.
phosphor112
Banned
In game? Not at all. No one is talking about LOD switches for photomode/etc.
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
Interesting, I didn't know this.
I'm looking forward to the inevitable Digital Foundry article that goes into further detail on this. Can't wait for GT6.
Graphics Horse
Member
It had a single switch to a terrible quality model.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Didnd't you watch the painful tryhard 'speech' at the ps4 unveiling, he was trying so fucking hard to pretend to be passionate about cars and anal about details, basically PD's schtick but in a very insincere way.
Driverclub is definitely aiming for the same audience.
WoW GT6 pics looking way better!
not that i cared for that in GT, but it was literally 0 and 1.
SniperHunter
Banned
I called it!
I knew GT6 would use Adaptive tessellation, I just had a hunch. I predicted this long time ago on gaf! Someone find my post and confirm it
OH HELL YEA!!!! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=55139304 Posted on April 23, 2013
I knew GT6 would use Adaptive tessellation, I just had a hunch. I predicted this long time ago on gaf! Someone find my post and confirm it
The cars look next gen for sure, the can probably add adaptive tessellation to give them even more detail while still maintaining 60 FPS (it might take PD sometime to research and implement it, they could save it for GT7)
With the tracks, they could add real time cloud shadows, add weather effects, reflections, wind among other things to make them feel next gen.
They can use simple tricks to make the tracks look good:
PD's got this in the bag.
OH HELL YEA!!!! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=55139304 Posted on April 23, 2013
Tessellation has been around for years, but hasn't been done because its expensive to do. They are going to be sacrificing in places to get this running on the PS3.
phosphor112
Banned
Good call ;].