Yeah it will be for the BR speeds, but R* had to do the game on the PS3 as well as the 360. with the game being so massive they needed a solution for the 8.5gb space limited on the the 360's dvd's so instead of just putting the game on 2 discs and not require any sought of install on the 360, they probably thought we might as well have the install mandatory for both platforms so we can use the advantages of having 8gb stored on the HD, the game world being so massive and complex the game may require the install just to make it work..........
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GTA V 360: 2 discs, install from Disc 1 play from Disc 2. PS3: 1 disc, 8GB install
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Yeah it will be for the BR speeds, but R* had to do the game on the PS3 as well as the 360. with the game being so massive they needed a solution for the 8.5gb space limited on the the 360's dvd's so instead of just putting the game on 2 discs and not require any sought of install on the 360, they probably thought we might as well have the install mandatory for both platforms so we can use the advantages of having 8gb stored on the HD, the game world being so massive and complex the game may require the install just to make it work..........
Black Republican
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8GB install? jesus R*
RebornYeti
Member
I hope the game isn't as muddy and blurry as GTA IV. From what we've seen, so far it looks great, but so did GTA IV before it released...
Dick Justice
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Screenshots and video was pretty much identical with what we got, unless you had the PS3 version than ran 640p and some horrid PPAA
Uno Venova
Banned
It's been a while 'shooting with L2/R2' I hoped to never see you again.
Not exactly.
I don't get this.
For a 2008 game, it was pretty damn incredible looking.
Well, I thought anyway. The sheer detail and scale was just on a different level.
Don't think they've said what the lead platform here is, but the demos have been running on PS3.
Michael's son plays on 360
Dick Justice
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The ones I posted are also official shots, albeit from an earlier build. Rockstar's games tend to show improvements over time. IV looked fucking awful in the early shots, and while it's arguable that the final game isn't exactly great-looking either, it's an improvement. Which could be the case for V as well. Oh, and the shots you posted are pretty much representative of the final game. They aren't bullshots, they show that nasty-ass blur filter pretty well.
The shots you posted are not on the official site, anyhow this debate started from someone syaing ''GTA4 looked better in screenshots then the actual game'' and since all we had from GTA5, is official shots, the shots of GTA4 on R* websites do look better then the actual game, so yeti could be right and GTA5 could look worse than pictures, infact this has already been confirmed on GTA 5 O clock where they said the game has more jaggies than the pics.
Dick Justice
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It doesn't matter if they're on the official site, they're still shots distributed by Rockstar. Therefore, they're official.
And regarding your main point, apart from possibly the resolution of the screenshots, they look almost identical to the final game, warts and all.
that was my point! and your pics look worse then GTA4 to me,
and your opinion falls flat on its face when every shot on R*'s website of GTA4 looks better then gameplay.
you really think GTA5 gameplay will look like this on your tv?
Gta IV had fantastic graphics in 2008 despite being ruined by the shittiest iq i have ever seen this gen.
All the screenshot showed these problems but that didn't save me from disappointment on day one. Anyway what the game showed from detail to physics was awesome and still on the top.
All the screenshot showed these problems but that didn't save me from disappointment on day one. Anyway what the game showed from detail to physics was awesome and still on the top.
Barkley's Justice
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omg no wai!!! my digitel rites!!!111
Not exactly.
That looks like GTA IV when it came out.
He also looks 40 years old.
TheContact
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So I went from a definitely PS3 purchase to a, lets see which system handles the game better.
Andronicus
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I've always played GTA on a PS platform (dualshock lover), this one will be no different. Debating if i'll hold off this time though...for the PS4 announcement
notoriousKTR
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No need for a lead platform as there is minimal porting involved. RAGE engine is well established on all platforms based on what we saw with Max Payne 3.
Now the reason why R* is demoing GTA5 on the PS3 is another story. Either it has to do with an agreement with Sony or R* is putting their best foot forward and demoing it on the better system or both.
What I have noticed is:
GTA4 was demoed mostly on 360...which ended up being the better version.
RDR was demoed mostly on 360...which ended up being the better version.
L.A. Noire was demoed mostly on PS3...which ended up being the better version.
Max Payne 3 was demoed mostly on PC (w/ a 360 controller)...which ended up being the better version.
Draw your conclusion for GTA5.
This is great info. I was umm'ing and ahhh'ing about which platform to get it on as I hate the Dualshock 2 and I feared disc swapping during gameplay on the xbox
The xbox version will be superior if previous Rock* games are anything to go by, I think this just cemented my decision to get it for the 360
The xbox version will be superior if previous Rock* games are anything to go by, I think this just cemented my decision to get it for the 360
giancarlo123x
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Luckily for you its on PS3 with the Dualshock 3. :3
Arg....Dualshock 3 I meant lol
Dick Justice
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Exaggeration.
Again?
Yes, GTA4 and RDR looks bad on PS3 due to low resolution, but with Max Payne 3 they are both 720p.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-max-payne-3-face-off
There are better AA solutions now on PS3, like MLAA that runs on the SPUs to free up that pos RSX to get up to 720p.
Or they might use FXAA3, thats cheap but blurs the image a bit.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digital-foundry-future-of-anti-aliasing
Buckethead
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If you guys are going to bitch graphics, at least compare screenshots from the same period.
It's not even the same Niko character model!
One was from earlier in production (pre-delay) and the other was from a near release build.
Not surprisingly, the latter looks much better.
GTA IV still looks great in many aspects, imo. The parts that don't are examples of laziness/incompetence/age of engine, the rest is just opportunity cost.
These games don't run on magic.
McValdemar
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They always say that will look the same.
History tells they'll probably you'll get a slightly better version on 360.
It's nice to have faith, I suppose, but that is literally the most PR-ific answer to a question you could come up with.
I'll be waiting for the PC version for this, or at the very least a Digital Foundry report saying the PS3 version is good, I have no room on my miniscule 360 HDD and the PS3 version of GTA IV was a bit too janky for my tastes.
timmaysmittay
Member
Rockstar please for the love of god port this game over to PS4/XB1.
I'm happy that they managed to get this game on current gen consoles but seriously just give me a 1080p 60fps PS4 version of this shit and I will be there day one.
On topic though: I assume the game will look better on 360 after my experiences with RDR and GTA4 but I would love to be proven wrong.
I'm happy that they managed to get this game on current gen consoles but seriously just give me a 1080p 60fps PS4 version of this shit and I will be there day one.
On topic though: I assume the game will look better on 360 after my experiences with RDR and GTA4 but I would love to be proven wrong.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Cool for 360 owners. Two things:
-didn't Lords of Shadow try this and MS said no?
-Hope the initial disc 1 install saves the data to the HDD and we don't have two GTAV boxes in the games' list!
-didn't Lords of Shadow try this and MS said no?
-Hope the initial disc 1 install saves the data to the HDD and we don't have two GTAV boxes in the games' list!
Well this is all I'm gonna say
Well, that's easy mate. Xbox 360 and Xbox One Screenshot comparison. They are just using Xbox One ingame material in order to simulate "rendering" cutscenes for the Xbox 360 version.
Not sure where you get the "drops a ton of effects" from. Foliage is reduced, in one cutscene a water splash is missing and in another the lights were on the wrong side which was a glitch that only happend when you restarted the checkpoint and else worked properly (digital foundry updated the article). The rest seems pretty much on par.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-max-payne-3-face-off
BishopLamont
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Biggest fail first post ever? I thought not reading the OP was a bannable offense.
Like 90% of exclusive 360/PS3 games coming out, this will eventually come to the Xbone/PS4. Late next year would be a good time frame.
MidgarBlowedUp
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I'm going to deliberately buy the worse performing version, then come on gaming age and explain how it's actually the best version.
matrix-cat
Member
I'm pretty worried about this, too. Or, rather, for GTA V's shooting controls in general. GTA IV had that awful pressure-sensitive system where you had to hold the left trigger halfway in to free aim and all the way to lock on, and then for some reason you could also pull the right trigger in halfway to aim and all the way to shoot. And don't get me started on shooting from cover, where every time you pulled the right trigger Niko would have to stand up and aim first, so you had to sit down and stand up again between every burst of gunfire.
I know they're just doing Max Payne 3's shooting system this time, but I hope they don't get any bizarre ideas again. Left trigger just needs to be aim/not aim, right trigger shoot/not shoot. Binary actions, like all modern shooting games - no need to reinvent the wheel. Also L1 and R1 on the PS3, plskthnx.
IMACOMPUTA
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Using Max Payne 3 as a indication of parity would be dangerous. Max Payne 3 is a much more locked off game to what were expecting with GTAV with loading hidden within copious cutscenes.
This is the sort of game where it will come down to controller preferences for most multi console owners.
This is the sort of game where it will come down to controller preferences for most multi console owners.
That was a learning experience for them.
Think back to how GTA games used to handle shooting it was a damm mess. practically broken in most cases.
GTA:IV was better,RDR was fantastic and Max Payne 3 is still the best third person shooting system out imo.
Plus Max Payne 3 was made by a Rockstar studio that had nothing to do with GTA or RDR, so optimization wise you can't compare them like that either. However I do expect them them to be close.
Screaming Meat
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I always thought they brought in staff from other studios as well? I'm sure they brought in a few R* North dudes to help out/advise on some parts of RDR.
KeioSquad2
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Dude, I've read this whole thread and in my opinion you wouldn't know jack shit if it wasn't for some outside party pointing out the differences. The ps3 version of rdr was not exact to the 360, who gives a flying fuck!!!!!! Try telling me some other differences that may have popped up that didn't get posted in that DF article, can you? I have both versions because I thought one would be better, and the ps3 may not be as sharp, but it is not as harsh either. Can you afford to put the two side by side and say to the best of your ability that the 360 version is head and shoulders above the ps3? Or do you just jump on message boards trying to show off your internet dick by quoting other peoples articles......
Looking forward to this game as well DO NOT CARE WHAT PLATFORM!!!!