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[spwolf]

I bet Epic is about to announce Gears of War for PS3 any time now.

Comparing Gears to GTA is smart. Really smart.

Home educated?

 

[Jenga]

I bet Epic is about to announce Gears of War for PS3 any time now.

believe

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I find it funny the usual console warriors aren't the ones that have been posting in my GTAIV thread of awesome.

REAL GTA FANS :bow

I'm having a beer tonight at the real Steinway Beer Garden tonight in its honor.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Comparing Gears to GTA is smart. Really smart.

Home educated?

Gears = something that is owned by Epic who took money from Microsoft in exchange for keeping certain installments exclusive.

GTAIV = something that is owned by Take 2 who took money from Microsoft in exchange for keeping certain content exclusive.

Mom drop you on your head when you were a baby?

 

[Jenga]

Gears = something that is owned by Epic who took money from Microsoft in exchange for keeping certain installments exclusive.

GTAIV = something that is owned by Take 2 who took money from Microsoft in exchange for keeping certain content exclusive.

Mom drop you on your head when you were a baby?

dis shit just got real

 

[thecheese]

Sounds like a bit of an exageration to me.

 

[spwolf]

Gears = something that is owned by Epic who took money from Microsoft in exchange for keeping certain installments exclusive.

GTAIV = something that is owned by Take 2 who took money from Microsoft in exchange for keeping certain content exclusive.

Mom drop you on your head when you were a baby?

Gears = 360 exclusive series published by MS.
GTA = one of the biggest Playstation series ever.

Smart. Really.

Unless you were thinking that Gears 3 will have exclusive DLC on PS3? :lol

 

[Choke on the Magic]

dis shit just got real

Mad real!

 

[Beer Monkey]

Gears = 360 exclusive series published by MS.
GTA = one of the biggest Playstation series ever.

Smart. Really.

Unless you were thinking that Gears 3 will have exclusive DLC on PS3? :lol

You are even dumber than you write if you think that MS is going to enter into a contract that involves $50 million in cash getting pushed around and yet still lets Take 2 do whatever they want with the content.

Let me guess, mercury poisoning?

 

[Tmac]

Gears = 360 exclusive series published by MS.
GTA = one of the biggest Playstation series ever.

Smart. Really.

Unless you were thinking that Gears 3 will have exclusive DLC on PS3? :lol

Exactly. Buying out a 20 million seller game, isnt cheap.

 

[VALIS]

Again, if anyone missed his update today:

http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/02/23/setting-the-record-straight-on-gtaiv-dlc/

I posted my bullets from the Microsoft Blogger Breakfast the other day and some info about GTAIV was taken out of context…well sort of. People are claiming that Microsoft announced the game would be as big as Vice City/San Andreas. I posted comments on some of the bullets and putting 2 and 2 together I came up with some facts and opinion on GTAIV. Here are the facts:

* Rockstar has announced that the 360 version will be the definitive version

* Microsoft said at the breakfast that no other platform will get this DLC. It’s exclusive to them and to them only. From what was said, and Brian Crecente even questioned it, Playstation 3 won’t be getting any additional content for GTAIV. This could mean that they get it later or they get completely different content. We don’t know at this time.

* Microsoft paid $50 million for the content. If you haven’t been in a coma you should know that entire games have been developed for less than $50 million dollars. If you think that the $50 million is just for some new cars, characters and ice cream truck side missions, you are horribly mistaken.

Now for the opinions:

* GTA3 was the first in a trilogy of games. Vice City and San Andreas used the same engine that GTA3 was built on.

* Rockstar stated that if the DLC is successful on the 360, it will give them a new outlet for releasing content. A monkey could figure out that with GTAIV, they could release a GTAIV Palm Beach Stories and GTAIV New Jack City games strictly through downloads

* $50 million is in Rockstars pockets right now. This is before ANY game sales. It’s almost free money. Rockstar knows good business and this is good business. Just like it was good business when Sony paid them for a 1 year exclusivity on GTA3. Microsoft knows that GTA3 is the game that pretty much gave the PS2 so much success. They aren’t just gonna sit back and let it happen again. Now it’s their turn. Who knows, with GTAV Sony may get the jump on MS. Touche!

* You can expect this content to be huge. I’d say several gigs worth. Since there’s no manufacturing cost involved and the game could cost between $19-$29 dollars. Again, we aren’t talking new car and music downloads. This DLC will most likely be a huge assortment of missions and new areas opened up. It may even be a brand new storyline using the GTAIV engine. Also, you know that with GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were released shortly after the first game. Expect the same to happen with GTAIV.

* If you have both the 360 and the PS3 and you choose the PS3 version, you will be missing out on some great content. Either way, both versions of the original game will be awesome and no one should feel bad about that.

And I'll repeat this one since it's so fun...

Rockstar has announced that the 360 version will be the definitive version

:O

 

[WrikaWrek]

You are even dumber than you write if you think that MS is going to enter into a contract that involves $50 million in cash getting pushed around and yet still lets Take 2 do whatever they want with the content.

Let me guess, mercury poisoning?

Sony is just smarter.

No matter what.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

.
GTA = one of the biggest Playstation series ever.

That Playstation series was also on the Xbox and the PS3 isn't the PS2.

 

[spwolf]

You are even dumber than you write if you think that MS is going to enter into a contract that involves $50 million in cash getting pushed around and yet still lets Take 2 do whatever they want with the content.
Let me guess, mercury poisoning?

where exactly did I say that?

I dont have a clue what the contract was about and neither do you. I am not really discussing that whatsoever.

I am just pointing that in your mind, Gears = GTA. It is just silly.

 

[Jenga]

And I'll repeat this one since it's so fun...

Rockstar has announced that the 360 version will be the definitive version

:O

I must admit, the bitter tears because of this quote will be delicious.

 

[WrikaWrek]

It is true that using MGS4 or Final Fantasy XIII as a basis for comparison would've been better suited.

Gears IS published by MS. Sprocket has a point.

 

[duk]

i guess i know which version to get, maybe

 

[hauton]

* Microsoft doesn’t care about Blu-Ray at this time
* Xbox 360 is a game machine not a movie player
* If you must watch movies on it, there’s Video Marketplace

lol

seriously

if ms doesn't care about blu-ray then why back hd-dvd?

if ms thinks the 360 is only a game machine then why have any multimedia functionality? or launch an hd-dvd add-on?

and i'm not even going to dignify that last spin excuse with a response

that section ruins any credibility that article had

EDIT: I can't believe i passed this gem up

Again, if anyone missed his update today:



And I'll repeat this one since it's so fun...



:O

:lol

ok the internet has been conquered, a winner is you!

*rollseyes*

 

[Tmac]

And I'll repeat this one since it's so fun...



:O

Rockstar to ps3 users: "Don't buy our game".

That doesn't make any sense. For me it's just PR BS. Just like GTA was ps2 exclusive, just like GTALCS and GTA:VCS were PSP exclusives. Time will tell.

 

[spwolf]

Rockstar to ps3 users: "Don't buy our game".

That doesn't make any sense. For me it's just PR BS. Just like GTA was ps2 exclusive, just like GTALCS and GTA:VCS were PSP exclusives. Time will tell.

well did Rockstar actually say that?

Anyone has PR where that has been taken from? It would be appericated.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Rockstar to ps3 users: "Don't buy our game".

That doesn't make any sense. For me it's just PR BS. Just like GTA was ps2 exclusive, just like GTALCS and GTA:VCS were PSP exclusives. Time will tell.

When you see Xbox 360 plastered over the ads, you will get that sense w/ a 50 million dollar sledgehammer.

 

[TAJ]

Rockstar to ps3 users: "Don't buy our game".

You were warned about this a loooooong fucking time ago... before PS3 even launched FFS. Don't expect pity.

 

[VALIS]

well did Rockstar actually say that?

Anyone has PR where that has been taken from? It would be appericated.

http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/grand...a-20070725111542242077/g-20060313153735796095

According to Rockstar Games spokesman Hosi Simon, however, there won't be any consolation prizes for those who choose to buy the PlayStation 3 edition instead. When asked during a preview of the game whether there would be any advantage to owning the PS3 version that could rival the 360's exclusives, Simon said, "not that I can think of."

...

"But I guess if you want the complete experience with the episodes, then yeah, you should buy the 360, I suppose," Simon said.

.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Take some pics dude! Post them in the thread so we can compare!

*stumbles into thread*

Missed this one. Next time fer sure.

 

[Psychotext]

if ms doesn't care about blu-ray then why back hd-dvd?

To keep the format war going for just long enough to get some decent momentum on their downloadable films? Nah... couldn't be anything like that. :lol

 

[Narag]

To keep the format war going for just long enough to get some decent momentum on their downloadable films? Nah... couldn't be anything like that. :lol

Yup. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[TheRipDizz]

"The amount of people holding out hope and trying to find loopholes for the PS3 GTA4 DLC is really pathetic. Buy a fucking 360 already if it means that much to you."

Quoted again for added emphasis.

 

[M3wThr33]

I think in the end, it's not going to be enough to change anyone's minds.

PC users will wait for hacked content, as all the previous games got hacked to shit.

Dual 360/PS3 owners will get the 360 version for achievement points anyway.

And everyone else will get it for whatever else they have.

 

[{Mike}]

If the dlc is as big as VC and SA, thats fucking nuts

It can't be as big as San Andreas technically speaking.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I think in the end, it's not going to be enough to change anyone's minds.

PC users will wait for hacked content, as all the previous games got hacked to shit.

Dual 360/PS3 owners will get the 360 version for achievement points anyway.

And everyone else will get it for whatever else they have.

I don't think any of the parties you cited are the ones MS is trying to get the attention of.

 

[M3wThr33]

Well, I also doubt new users care about DLC. I assume the vast majority who bought GTA games didn't ever touch the story.

But GH2/3 DLC numbers may have changed that.
And nothing I'm saying is new.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Somebody needs to make a poll asking whether GTA4 = Gears or GTA4 = GTA LCS.

And then make another poll asking if spwolf knows how to compare things.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Well, I also doubt new users care about DLC. I assume the vast majority who bought GTA games didn't ever touch the story.

But GH2/3 DLC numbers may have changed that.
And nothing I'm saying is new.

Well, there's a few significant assumptions in there, but all MS feels like they need to do is make a positive distinction.

 

[Prine]

Rockstar to ps3 users: "Don't buy our game".

That doesn't make any sense. For me it's just PR BS. Just like GTA was ps2 exclusive, just like GTALCS and GTA:VCS were PSP exclusives. Time will tell.

This is fucking absurd.

PS3 only = R* says buy PS3 version

360 only = R* says buy 360 version

Multi owners = R* say 360 version is definitive version, but buy what you want we still get your money

If you miss out on GTA4 in protest then you dont want GTA4 in the first place and are incredibly stupid

Doesnt work like you want it to.

 

[squatingyeti]

Holy fuck spwolf. Take off the jacket and stay awhile will ya? This is exclusive content to the 360. Not, it comes out later on the PS3 or it can come out at the same time. BOTH MS and R* have now said that. Do you need a signed affidavit from god? If you want to get the PS3 version, that's fine. Have a blast. Remember, according to most Sony fans, no one is going to play the DLC anyway. So, what's the fuss?

Put your jacket in the fucking closet.

 

[M3wThr33]

Holy fuck spwolf. Take off the jacket and stay awhile will ya? This is exclusive content to the 360. Not, it comes out later on the PS3 or it can come out at the same time. BOTH MS and R* have now said that. Do you need a signed affidavit from god? If you want to get the PS3 version, that's fine. Have a blast. Remember, according to most Sony fans, no one is going to play the DLC anyway. So, what's the fuss?

Put your jacket in the fucking closet.

To be fair, R* was also quoted saying VCS was PSP-exclusive and wouldn't get ported. I remember them making the distinction between LCS and VCS.
Between MS throwing around the word exclusive and this content HYPED to be worth it, it explains why there's a lot of debate around an ambiguous add-on that may possibly turn out to be laughable. It's not like MS hasn't wasted millions before.

 

[squatingyeti]

To be fair, R* was also quoted saying VCS was PSP-exclusive and wouldn't get ported. I remember them making the distinction between LCS and VCS.
Between MS throwing around the word exclusive and this content HYPED to be worth it, it explains why there's a lot of debate around an ambiguous add-on that may possibly turn out to be laughable. It's not like MS hasn't wasted millions before.

Very different story. You don't think Sony didn't want R* to say VCS was exclusive to the PSP? Sony pushed that. Furthermore, by VCS going to PS2, it stayed on a Sony platform. This is about two different companies. It would be different if MS was saying this content won't be on any other console and R* was spinning some PR. That's not what's happening. BOTH are saying the exact same thing.

EDIT: whatever though, everyone believe what they want because you just can't convince some people. What would you consider "laughable" content? They've both already said it won't just be clothes/cars and a couple missions.

 

[M3wThr33]

I'll believe it when it gets a formal description. Of course they're going to make it sound like MS got their money's worth.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

That's it. The post above me with the entire detail has sealed the deal. I'm getting 360 version of the game...

 

[YYZ]

This is worse than people making a case for MGS4 on the 360. It's more sad at least. We know that this is an ironclad deal for exclusive DLC.

 

[Srider]

Maybe it's so big that it comes on a blu-ray disc.

 

[TelemachusD]

* You can expect this content to be huge. I’d say several gigs worth. Since there’s no manufacturing cost involved and the game could cost between $19-$29 dollars. Again, we aren’t talking new car and music downloads. This DLC will most likely be a huge assortment of missions and new areas opened up. It may even be a brand new storyline using the GTAIV engine. Also, you know that with GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were released shortly after the first game. Expect the same to happen with GTAIV.

Ok, Vice City was the next year, but San Andreas was three years after GTA3. I wouldn't exactly call that "shortly". By that standard, Halo 2 was released shortly after Halo. Also, hasn't Take 2 said one of the DLC episodes is due before the end of their fiscal year (October 31)? Six months doesn't seem like enough time for a full blown new city, I'd think a new borough would be possible though.

 

[Death Dealer]

People taking a blogger's word from a PR executive saying the DLC will be like VC or SA was to GTA3, are smoking some of the Truth's trees.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

You know, I think that what will end up happening is it won't be one big gigantic game sized add on.. but maybe like a full continuation to the story that happens on the disc...


Like what if twice a month 2 hours or so of missions are available that are like really great epic story missions? That sounds much more likely to me.

 

[godhandiscen]

Again, if anyone missed his update today:



And I'll repeat this one since it's so fun...



:O

Holy Fuck, Rockstar already has the $50 Million? Damn, from here until the content releases thats a lot of interest. Rockstar is easily bagging at least 3-5 Million extra by just putting that money in the bank. Honestly I doubt Ms will get its money's worth. This is going to be another True Fantasy Live online case, mark my words. All of MS investment will go into something that ultimately ends up being beneficial to Sony. I support MS, but they tend to have shitty luck with this kind of deals.

People taking a blogger's word from a PR executive saying the DLC will be like VC or SA was to GTA3, are smoking some of the Truth's trees.

You cannot deny that million selling games this gen have been developed with half that budget. What is R* doing with that money then?

R* to Sony: The future will cost more!
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryas9OANw-E

 

[squicken]

so many wasted posts arguing about a game that's gonna punked hard by Saints Row 2 . . . yo

 

[raYne]

so many wasted posts arguing about a game that's gonna punked hard by Saints Row 2 . . . yo

You ever see those movie scenes when someone steps blindly off the curb and you just know what's going to happen?

This is one of those scenes.

 

[Death Dealer]

You cannot deny that million selling games this gen have been developed with half that budget.

You cannot deny entirely new cities, as large or bigger than Liberty City, based on the GTA4 engine would bring far more than 50 million into Rockstar's coffers. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's a new borough, but DLC which doubles the size of GTA4's gameworld ? Nah. Time for a reality check.

 

[godhandiscen]

You cannot deny entirely new cities, as large or bigger than Liberty City, based on the GTA4 engine would bring far more than 50 million into Rockstar's coffers. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's a new borough, but DLC which doubles the size of GTA4's gameworld ? Nah. Time for a reality check.

Yes, but this content would also become available to 360 owners. What will not be shared is the content for which MS paid $50 Million. That will remain exclusive. I doubt it will be all that. As I said, MS has bad luck when it comes to the world "exclusive", so maybe the exclusive DLC is just a few blocks, and a couple of lame missions.

 

[Jtrizzy]

This is fucking absurd.

If you miss out on GTA4 in protest then you dont want GTA4 in the first place and are incredibly stupid

Agreed. I won't lie, I wish PS3 was getting extra stuff, but I sure as hell won't be skipping the game out of protest as I've done with crappy ports. I'd be really shocked if the DLC is as big as SA or VC though. Seems like they kind of back off that comment in the second blog post.