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GTX880 Rumors [New stuff: Post #231]
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14nm is just a label, like Intel's 22nm. Effectively Intel's 22nm might not have been significantly better than 28nm (as their labelling would suggest)
Intel 22nm is in label only
Intel 22nm not really 22nm
TSMC claims 28nm better than Intel's 22nm
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No 20nm no buy.
Been considering buying a new PC for the last couple of months but now this... it seems like ages away, don't know if I can hang on for another 4+ months with this PC, I bought it at the wrong time so it's pretty badly oudated now (4GB RAM, GTX 460). Confirmed by Dead Rising 3 where even the minimum spec is too high for my card!
Do the indications and rumours suggest these will be worth waiting for over getting a 770 or higher 700 series card now?
Do the indications and rumours suggest these will be worth waiting for over getting a 770 or higher 700 series card now?
On same chip size, jump from 28nm to 20nm would bring larger amount of transistors, lower power consumption, lower heat.
Better product.
MrCunningham
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Using a Geforce 660 3GB model right now, and I wonder if I should make the jump to the 800 series?
For a reference today - look at the 750 Ti. Performance-wise, they have neutered it so it falls in line to the NVIDIA numbering scheme - but power/energy use and heat is super insanely low compared to all else.
MutonCommander
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So what's the deal with this ARM core business?
Not guaranteed it seems. Signs point to 20nm being possibly more expensive and problematic
20nm has higher cost per wafer than 28nm
Nvidia thinks 20nm is crap
Issues with 20nm and beyond
We'll need to see if it scales. As of now 750Ti is not great price/perf value compared to R7 265.
So Intel's 22nm chips are actually 26nm chips?
likedamaster
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Canis lupus
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870 or 880 is when I'll upgrade my 670, next update is 2016 when Pascal hits.
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The Everyman
20nm is definitely better 28nm. the question is whether or not the chips can be reliably produced yet. i believe that's where the issues are in those articles.
Would be with the release of the 9xx. If they want major boost for 4K gaming it'll be 20nm + GDDR6, first released as part of Titan serious for 1K.
SapientWolf
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I would skip the 6GB 780 ti, because the ports that need that much memory have garbage optimization anyway. You would need more grunt than that.
Honestly, gsync has done more for my experience than my GPU upgrade did. BF4 and Trials Fusion went from a stuttery mess to buttery smooth.
matrix-cat
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I'll wait and see just how badly Witcher 3 and Batman mistreat my 670 next year. It still does good work for me.
Yoda
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JacobF confrimed the 780ti 6GB has been canned.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1475993/...o-6gb-update-6gb-gtx-780-ti-cancelled/1000_50
I am close to pullingt the trigger on a dk2, my wee boy is dying to try it, me too.
There is way too much stuff i want, I need gsync as well, judder drives me nuts.
There will be no 6GB 780 Ti. Confirmed by EVGA.
EDIT: Beaten like England's World Cup squad.
Future PhaZe
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Yea. Sli 780tis + dx12 should be good for a long long time
Unknown Soldier
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The graphics cards keep getting more powerful but there aren't a lot of CPUs who can even keep up without bottlenecking them.
Vox Chaotica
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I was really looking forward to the 20nm cards. I guess I'll just use sli 780ti for when I build a new PC later this year.
GHG
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Actually, anything over an i5 (even one that's 3 generations old) and you're golden.
And I hope a Maxwell Titan-killer from AMD gets announced immediately after at half the price to knock some sense into Nvidia.
Cosmic Schwung
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I hope it's just a case of early adopter tax but the first gsync monitor for sale over at OCUK is literally twice the price of the regular model (£180). If that does happen to be the regular mark-up, I'd probably choose to put the money towards a better gpu instead.
Still depends a lot on the game and what sort of resolution you're running at.
And this will also be somewhat addressed by things like Mantle and DX12.
Wouldn't mind seeing 6 or 8 core mainstream CPU's become a thing, though.
I would love to see AMD steeping up too, but I hope they can do it without eating a mini nuclear plant and F1 engine in the process.
Keep it quiet and cool pls.
Yoda
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A second-hand 290x would be your best bet imo. A lot of them were for the mining craze and didn't get too much use.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=radeon+r9+290x
Getting Oculus DK2 within the next month and my computer is 4 years old, so i'm looking to upgrade.
I was thinking of going with a Geforce GTX 780 Ti. Should I wait for this? Will the price go down on this old one? I'm guessing the wait is going to be more than 2 months which I don't know if I can handle.
Also for the CPU is Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4GHz LGA 1150 good enough? I read that i5 is what you want for gaming? Were these people crazy?
I was thinking of going with a Geforce GTX 780 Ti. Should I wait for this? Will the price go down on this old one? I'm guessing the wait is going to be more than 2 months which I don't know if I can handle.
Also for the CPU is Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4GHz LGA 1150 good enough? I read that i5 is what you want for gaming? Were these people crazy?
Nikodemos
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Yeah, as long as you stay away from those versions with the reference cooler design. That one's fucking awful. Of course, if you can get a really good deal on one you can swap the cooler.
Though of course it's scenario-dependent, for things like driving 120 Hz screens and more advanced emulation consistently, we could really use some big single-threaded CPU innovations.
ref
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Both i7/i5 are identical in 99% of games, so it's more of a price/performance thing.
Some games do take advantage of the I7's hyperthreading I think it's called though, such as Crysis 3 and you'll get better framerates with an I7.
future proofing/protecting myself against watch dogs tier shit ports, can't be much worse than the 2gb i have on my 760 now anyway, i'm sure the 780ti 6gb will be out s...
... oon.
uh. okay. roll on the 880 then i guess?
Early returns on Maxwell lite (750Ti) were pretty encouraging. The 800 series is supposed to be cheaper than the 600/700 releases as well. Who knows when 20mm will actually show up...
Probably end up picking up 2-4 of the 880 when a specific version releases. My 680's are crying more than me about the lack of 20nm.
Really hope they do have 8GB versions(4k, 8thgen). Would make smooth 4k feasible. Think VRAM will be a major factor again now that the new console are out.
Really hope they do have 8GB versions(4k, 8thgen). Would make smooth 4k feasible. Think VRAM will be a major factor again now that the new console are out.
Mr. Wonderful
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As long as it doesn't come at a tradeoff of single-core/threaded performance as we see with the current Xeons.
I might step up from my 770 4GB for a 880, just so I can play The Witcher 3 at max settings, hopefully over 60FPS. I would probably have to wait for the actual high-end Maxwell part though to achieve that.