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GTX880 Rumors [New stuff: Post #231]

Currently have a 2048x1152 monitor and was thinking about upgrading to 1440 when I build my new PC. However, I will likely end up playing most of my games on my 1080p TV instead because I prefer the couch & controller when possible. I definitely want to always max settings with a solid 60 Fps but would also like to try downsampling a bit, especially if I don't get the 1440 monitor. I'm assuming more VRAM would help for that, right? I want to build my PC soon since the new CPUs are out but the graphics card is going to be my only difficult decision. Really interested in seeing how much VRAM this card will have
 
Is it worthwhile having a 4GB at only 1080p?

Thinking now I might just plump for a 770 or something, but not sure whether 2 or 4GB.
 
I just bought today a EVGA GTX 780 Ti Classified... And yet, I'm not mad. lol Pretty funny these cards still aren't 20 nm.

Before you guys down me, I have the Oculus DK2 coming next month and my current HD 5970 isn't gonna cut it.
 
Bolded can't be stressed enough. The lack of market forces is why we've been stuck with Kepler for so long.

This problem seems to have been dealt with. The 290's are an irrefutably amazing card, and even the 280X holds it's weight against nVidia's offerings.

If AMD is going to follow nVidia by a few months again, then AMD will likely be very competitive this round as well.
 
I just bought today a EVGA GTX 780 Ti Classified... And yet, I'm not mad. lol Pretty funny these cards still aren't 20 nm.

Before you guys down me, I have the Oculus DK2 coming next month and my current HD 5970 isn't gonna cut it.

There are always new graphics cards coming out right around the corner (within a year!)

You can't wait forever, no shame in getting a fantastic card like that.
 
Is anybody else annoyed by the aggressive polar opposite camps a lot of people take on this news? It's as if some people are taking shots at the 870/80 as if it's trash, and downplaying the excitement of people who are excited that they're finally coming - even though they're not 20nm. You don't need to justify your recent purchase; everybody is in a different position to upgrade, with different funds and interests.

Then others are acting as if 20nm won't be that big a deal, which it will, but it doesn't mean you have to wait a great deal of time longer if you've been looking to upgrade for a while - like many seem to.

Again, it's all about what position someone is in. I'm not specifically talking about this forum either.

Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing how these perform a great deal. Really hoping for at least 4GB VRAM. Could somebody explain the primary purpose of the ARM coprocessor?
 
Could somebody explain the primary purpose of the ARM coprocessor?
Doesn't seem particularly relevant to gaming, I don't think.

ARM processor more fits Nvidia's ambitions for server and compute business, and to divorce itself from Intel dependence.
 
880GTX will be 4gb or 8gb. Keep in mind the legitimate leaked NVIDIA ES card is 8gb (Listed in contents of Nvidia truck depot)
 
Ok. Is it worth me upgrading my Asus GeForce GTX680 DirectCU II Top 2GB now?

Your looking at a 25-30% jump to a 780 and a 40% jump to a 780Ti. I went form a 680 - 780 last year and I found it worth it but I would definitely wait for Q4 if I were you.
 
To a 770, 780 or a 780 Ti, no. But for an 880 why not. I guess unless you're waiting for 20 nm.

Your looking at a 25-30% jump to a 780 and a 40% jump to a 780Ti. I went form a 680 - 780 last year and I found it worth it but I would definitely wait for Q4 if I were you.


Excellent. Thanks guys, I'll wait a little longer. Here's hoping that my next upgrade will be more than worth it. Can't wait to abuse all the games I play and perform some lightning fast 3D rendering.
 
Why do you 20nm guys care so much about a die shrink? All that matters is if they are offering more performance for the same or lower prices than last time.

Because arbitrary values and not price-performance or real performance values are the measure of a graphics card.
 
I hope we get a 880 with 6gbs of memory. Not super in love with my 290x due to coil whine.

I never knew what coil whine actually is, so I just looked it up on Youtube. Is this what you hear (same volume and pitch)? I'm honestly shocked at that noise and glad I've never experienced something like that.
 
I never knew what coil whine actually is, so I just looked it up on Youtube. Is this what you hear (same volume and pitch)? I'm honestly shocked at that noise and glad I've never experienced something like that.

I've had some real rotten luck with coil whine lately. My 570, 7950. and 290X all whined like a mofo. Even with different PSUs / motherboards. Next card i'll get will be from Amazon since they have a great return policy. I will not accept another card with coil whine. Especially since I went to water cooling and the loudest thing in my case is the damn whine.
 
Does NVIDIA have a tendency to price drop older cards when they release new ones? I'd like to add a second 780 to my system and will be much more likely to do so if they price drop after these new cards come out.
 
Does NVIDIA have a tendency to price drop older cards when they release new ones? I'd like to add a second 780 to my system and will be much more likely to do so if they price drop after these new cards come out.

Nope, maybe second hand cards will drop but they never drop the current gpus
 
I just bought today a EVGA GTX 780 Ti Classified... And yet, I'm not mad. lol Pretty funny these cards still aren't 20 nm.

Before you guys down me, I have the Oculus DK2 coming next month and my current HD 5970 isn't gonna cut it.

I wouldn't sweat it as there is always something better coming down the road. Going to build a home theater PC this summer and I don't plan on waiting for these new cards. If they are super amazing I'll just sell my current card and get the new one.
 
Doesn't seem particularly relevant to gaming, I don't think.

ARM processor more fits Nvidia's ambitions for server and compute business, and to divorce itself from Intel dependence.

the ARM processors are present so the GPU can act independently of the CPU. whereas before the GPU was reliant on the CPU to do for example draw calls (of which there are several 1000's of in a typical scene, all of which have to be initialized by the CPU across an external bus) the 800 series has local processing to perform the same task. how this will work out in reality is an open question, but it at least sounds promising.
 
Well.. given the fact that Maxwell is 30% power/performance efficent than Kepler, there should be some reasonable performance improvements. Even at 28nm.

Tis a shame though that the GPU market is as stagnant as it is. Definitely not buying until I can 4k Crysis 3 @ 60 fps single card.

Not even kidding.

Lol single GPU? You're gonna be waiting a while
 
AMD Radeon R9 280 and 280x is going to be replaced by "Tonga" in August apperently.

Source

Sweclockers
and

Techpower
The chip will replace the ailing "Tahiti Pro" silicon, from which is carved out the Radeon R9 280. While the R9 280 offers performance competitive to the GTX 760, it loses out big time on power consumption and heat. The cheaper R9 270X, on the other hand, offers lower performance, and similar power levels. "Tonga" could offer nearly as much performance, while featuring a new combination of components, that help AMD lower not just power draw, but also overall costs.

The 28 nm "Tonga" silicon is expected to feature 2,048 GCN2 stream processors, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, and a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface.

Good news for me as I am planning on a new setup this fall and new cards starting to show up fits perfectly.
 
My first foray to PC gaming was the 7870. That was now 2.5 years ago I think. I was worried that within half a year it would be outdated and I'd have to upgrade every year. It's truly mindblowing that even with these new chips I wouldn't get a quantum leap ahead.
I'm still rocking my 6950 and I'm surprised at how, 3.5 years later, I can still play games well. I'm playing Splinter Cell Blacklist at the moment, and I'm surprised at how good it looks and how well it runs. Perhaps not a locked 60, but it just feels smooooth.

Personally I would only like to upgrade my GPU every 4 years if possible.
 
For me its either 28nm GTX 880 / GM204 late this year, or wait til the 20nm flagship Maxwell (GM210?) much later into 2015. I don't expect the next major leap in GPUs until Pascal in 2016+ with some stacked DRAM and much greater bandwidth.


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Is this partially blurred out image the upcoming NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880 video card?
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A Chinese website called GamerSky has posted what could be the very first images of an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880 video card. The site says that the images came from one of their users (zerg1986) and that this card features an early A1 revision GM204 Maxwell GPU. The GPU core is labeled 1421A1, which they think it means that this GPU was made the week of May 19th, 2014 or the 21st week of the year.

The images show that the card has 8GB of GDDR5 memory on board, which might shock a few people out there. The images clearly show sixteen SKHynix H5GQ4H24MFR 512MB GDDR5 memory chips on both sides of the card. The chips are R2C speed rated, which means they are able to run 7000MHz in stock form. It looks like the rumor of GeForce GTX 880 4GB base models with an optional 8GB card are not too far off.

The prototype card has three power connectors (Two 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe), so this card should be under 375 Watts when it comes to power consumption. Maxwell is a power efficient architecture, so it will be interesting to see what the performance per Watt ends up looking like when this card comes out. We don’t expect the final card to have three power connectors as NVIDIA usually goes overkill on the early prototypes. The final power numbers would most likely be in the 250-300 Watt range.

Along the top edge of the card there are the usual NVIDIA SLI interconnects. NVIDIA has been using this for many years and it looks like they aren’t going away anytime soon. AMD’s new XDMA Crossfire solution doesn’t need an interconnect, but we have seen some of those cards come out with interconnects, so this doesn’t mean much. We aren’t sure what is under the pixelated ends of the card, but usually when images start leaking it is tough to plug the leak and we expect someone in the know to spill the beans soon. Could that be where an ARM core is located?

In other news GamerSky also announced that the flagship GM210 GPU won’t be launching till Q2 2015. What is GM210? Who knows as pretty much everything about GM200, GM204 and GM210 are all from unreliable sources and leak sits. We won’t even comment on that due to that fact and Q2 2015 is far away.

http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-video-card-pictured_146092
 
I hope the eventual 860 has a decent amount of ram. The 880 base model having only 4GBs of ram (I would have expected 6GB for a 880 base model) doesn't fill me with a lot of hope.
 
Someone on one of the tech sites was saying closer to 200W was likely for the 880.

I hope it's not too far beyond 780 in power consumpotion, my 650w PSU may not be able to hold up lol.
 
I'll need a single card that's good enough to run Grand Theft Auto V PC @ 60 FPS 1080p with Ultra settings and highest draw distances. Thus, beyond what the remastered versions on PS4/XBone do.

I really wanna Max GTAV out.
 
I am silently praying something like the gtx 860 becomes the new bang for the buck (like the 560 ti) and is good enough to ride through the 8th gen handily.
 
I'll need a single card that's good enough to run Grand Theft Auto V PC @ 60 FPS 1080p with Ultra settings and highest draw distances. Thus, beyond what the remastered versions on PS4/XBone do.

I really wanna Max GTAV out.

Remains to be seen how optomized the game is first.
 
I'll need a single card that's good enough to run Grand Theft Auto V PC @ 60 FPS 1080p with Ultra settings and highest draw distances. Thus, beyond what the remastered versions on PS4/XBone do.

I really wanna Max GTAV out.

You shouldn't put hope into thinking that any publisher will put out an optimized pc release, unless they state that pc is a lead platform OR that they will put time into the pc port.

see watch dogs, gta iv
 
I'll need a single card that's good enough to run Grand Theft Auto V PC @ 60 FPS 1080p with Ultra settings and highest draw distances. Thus, beyond what the remastered versions on PS4/XBone do.

I really wanna Max GTAV out.
I think a kickass CPU might be more important.
 
You shouldn't put hope into thinking that any publisher will put out an optimized pc release, unless they state that pc is a lead platform OR that they will put time into the pc port.

see watch dogs, gta iv

even if they say PC is the lead platform i would be cautious. remember the CEO of ubisoft saying PC was the lead platform for watchdogs.
 
I think a kickass CPU might be more important.


I guess a 4 GB GM104 / GTX 880 would be fine then. Just don't like the idea of buying a GPU right before the shift to 20nm happens.

For the CPU should I go for the Core i7-5960X Extreme Edition (8 cores, 16 threads) or a more overclock'able 4 or 6 core Haswell / Haswell-E ?
 
You shouldn't put hope into thinking that any publisher will put out an optimized pc release, unless they state that pc is a lead platform OR that they will put time into the pc port.

see watch dogs, gta iv


In Rockstars case Max payne 3 is very well optimized so i don't doubt gta V will be the same .
 
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