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GTX880 Rumors [New stuff: Post #231]

I hope the eventual 860 has a decent amount of ram. The 880 base model having only 4GBs of ram (I would have expected 6GB for a 880 base model) doesn't fill me with a lot of hope.

I'm kind of expecting 6GB standard for the 980 (with a 384-bit bus). I don't know if they'd do a 3rd x60 card with 2GB VRAM though, so maybe it will be a 3GB GPU with a 192-bit bus (I've no clue though).
 
I've been sitting on a EVGA GTX 580 for years. Just upgraded to an SSD setup. Just waiting for the 8 series to come out already.

I had a GTX580 but upgraded to a GTX670 which gave me 15-20% more FPS. If this GTX880 gives me 100% performance boost from a 670 then it's worth all da moneys in the world (not really)
 
I had a GTX580 but upgraded to a GTX670 which gave me 15-20% more FPS. If this GTX880 gives me 100% performance boost from a 670 then it's worth all da moneys in the world (not really)

A 780Ti is already 100% faster than a 670, so the 880 will definitely be more powerful.
 
I had a GTX580 but upgraded to a GTX670 which gave me 15-20% more FPS. If this GTX880 gives me 100% performance boost from a 670 then it's worth all da moneys in the world (not really)

I still have a GTX580 coupled with an old i7 2600 and it still rocks.
Im waiting until my computer cant play almost any new game and only then ill buy a new graphic card (i hope 20nm is a standard by then)
 
I've not long bought a 770. You guys seem to know your stuff.. I'll be playing The Witcher 3 when it's out next year, I would like to get a 780Ti or 880 when it's released. What's the best way around this financially?

I mean financially as in shall I just keep my 770 and then sell it once the new cards are out. Or sell it now and get more money for it and just nab a 780Ti instead?

I'm not privy to gfx details to be honest so not really in the loop. Any help is welcome!

Edit: I do need to upgrade my PSU at some point this year which I will get round to soon. I just can't afford to get an 880 there and then without selling my current one, so really my question is do I sell it now and just stick with a 780Ti or do I gamble and wait till 880's released and hope I get some money off my 770.
 
Buying an R9 290 is a decision I constantly regret- performance is really dodgy, there are constant small frame drops and some kind of stuttering in a LOT of games. Its very rare to see a constant 60FPS. I would say my 6950 was more consistent; despite the lower FPS in newer games. Could I somehow be limited by 4GB ram after upgrading to Windows 8?
 
It's interesting that I bought a 570 for The Witcher 2 and here I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of the 880 for the Witcher 3.

I have to say the 570 is a great card, nowadays I have to lower a few settings but apart from that it's still going strong.
 
can't wait 2nd Gen Maxwell as well especially the 20nm one (3rd Gen maybe?)

I just sold my GTX 760 because it sucks for mining.
in the meantime I use GTX 750 Ti for gaming/mining.
this little card ran new games quite well in High settings
 
Buying an R9 290 is a decision I constantly regret- performance is really dodgy, there are constant small frame drops and some kind of stuttering in a LOT of games. Its very rare to see a constant 60FPS. I would say my 6950 was more consistent; despite the lower FPS in newer games. Could I somehow be limited by 4GB ram after upgrading to Windows 8?

That doesn't sound right. Is it a reference card? My 290 is fine but it's an MSI Twin Frozr.

Are you using the latest catalyst drivers?
 
I've not long bought a 770. You guys seem to know your stuff.. I'll be playing The Witcher 3 when it's out next year, I would like to get a 780Ti or 880 when it's released. What's the best way around this financially?

I mean financially as in shall I just keep my 770 and then sell it once the new cards are out. Or sell it now and get more money for it and just nab a 780Ti instead?

I'm not privy to gfx details to be honest so not really in the loop. Any help is welcome!

Edit: I do need to upgrade my PSU at some point this year which I will get round to soon. I just can't afford to get an 880 there and then without selling my current one, so really my question is do I sell it now and just stick with a 780Ti or do I gamble and wait till 880's released and hope I get some money off my 770.

Stick with the 770 until later this year. As these rumours get more frequent and detailed, it means the card is getting closer to release. NVIDIA won't announce the card until a few weeks prior to it being on the shelves.
 
Some games do, mostly modded ones.
Skyrim for example can hog 5-6GB with plenty of heavy mods.

Put that many mods into Skyrim and it becomes pretty much unplayable frame rate wise on even the most powerful setups, so apart from screenshots I really don't see the point of doing it.

4GB cards are the sweetspot if modding Skyrim is your thing and still want to be able to actually play the damn thing.
 
Boss★Moogle;119485415 said:
The 880/870 better come out soonish otherwise I'm gonna have to get a R9 290.

Pretty amazing card for the money you pay for it, got mine for $300 plus 50 for G10 and VRM heatsinks and rocking it at 30% OC stable. Every game I throw at it runs at 60fps maxed out at 1080p. I can happily wait till 20nm refresh now instead of this middle of the road update.
 
I'll be shocked if 8GB is the default configuration, especially considering Nvidia's history of being cheap with VRAM.
 
I have a i7 950 3 GHz processor. It's 3-4 years old now, but getting a new computer in the nearby future is not going to be an option for me. A console and my laptop will have to let me survive.


However, do you think that I could still get life out of my rig if I got something like a 870? I am afraid that the GPU will be bottlenecked by the CPU because it's 3 years old. It's not overclocked (you can't overclock this chip very well) so it's not been very stressed by high temps.
 
I've been sitting on a EVGA GTX 580 for years. Just upgraded to an SSD setup. Just waiting for the 8 series to come out already.

Me too man, will be 4 years in a couple months. I want to start a new build; mITX actually and think I will just go ahead with a 295x2 until Pascal in 2016.
 
Yep, GTAV will also be my main indicator to upgrade or not. So far my 680 is still beasting, so maybe I'll be able to hold out for 20nm.
 
I have a 760 now so I think I might be good until the 900 series cards, which will hopefully be 20nm. Just need to get rid of this damn FX-6300 and get an i5 or i7, the bottleneck is so frustrating in games like BF4.
 
Will Nvidia and AMD switch to the tick-tock method now? So new architecture same die, die shrink same architecture, new architecture, ect..?
 
I'll need a single card that's good enough to run Grand Theft Auto V PC @ 60 FPS 1080p with Ultra settings and highest draw distances. Thus, beyond what the remastered versions on PS4/XBone do.

I really wanna Max GTAV out.

I don't think that will be too difficult, if you stick with postAA. It's when you throw in decent AA you run in to trouble, that will probably require more than 1 GPU.
I'm assuming the best AA options will be DX11 MSAA or downsampling (both very demanding techniques)
 
Some interesting news has come off the GPU rumor mill, including leaked photos of what’s purportedly the Nvidia GeForce GTX 880. The card is expected to offer up to 8GB of RAM with a 256-bit memory bus and possibly water cooling (though this may only apply to the engineering samples). Interestingly, there’s still a running debate over whether or not the next generation of Maxwell parts is built on 28nm or 20nm technology. Based on what we’ve heard, we’re guessing 28nm — 20nm at TSMC is not ramping well for graphics cards according to our sources, and neither AMD or Nvidia will have new big-core GPUs based on that technology this year.


Videocardz published a side-by-side photo of the three chips, which would seem to confirm the fact that what they call a GM2xx is actually a 28nm chip. The GM2xx GPU shown is almost exactly the same size as the GK110 — far larger than the GK104. Given that Maxwell runs larger than Kepler, this would make sense — the GK107 is 118mm sq, while the GM107 (GTX 750 Ti) is 148mm sq. Based on what we know of Maxwell, this implies that the new core either packs far more cores than the old GTX 680 and GTX 770, or an absolutely enormous L2 cache. When Nvidia built GM107, it boosted the L2 from 256KB to 2MB — an equivalent step up for this core would work out to 4MB of L2.

GPU-Side-by-side.jpg


Take the GK104, add more cores, and octuple the L2 cache and you could easily hit GK110 die sizes on the same 28nm node. Consumer availability is being loosely forecast for Q4 2014, though we’re not standing behind that guesstimate.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...t-to-8gb-of-ram-while-amd-plans-august-update

Seems pretty reasonable for GM204 / GTX 880
 
I have a i7 950 3 GHz processor. It's 3-4 years old now, but getting a new computer in the nearby future is not going to be an option for me. A console and my laptop will have to let me survive.


However, do you think that I could still get life out of my rig if I got something like a 870? I am afraid that the GPU will be bottlenecked by the CPU because it's 3 years old. It's not overclocked (you can't overclock this chip very well) so it's not been very stressed by high temps.

I would guess you are currently running something like AMD 5870 or NVIDIA 480 so I would say upgrading to something like 870 would bring quite a leap in performance. The CPU will certainly start to be lagging behind, but depending of the game it might be a smaller or larger bottleneck.

What I have overclocked my 920 to 3,9Ghz I would say it's easy, but it needs good cooling. I would say that getting a overclocking of 3,7Ghz should be really easy if you fallow a guide. Overclock of around 4.0 or over should be possible if you have a really good tower/watercooler.
 
I have a i7 950 3 GHz processor. It's 3-4 years old now, but getting a new computer in the nearby future is not going to be an option for me. A console and my laptop will have to let me survive.


However, do you think that I could still get life out of my rig if I got something like a 870? I am afraid that the GPU will be bottlenecked by the CPU because it's 3 years old. It's not overclocked (you can't overclock this chip very well) so it's not been very stressed by high temps.

I am in the same situation as you, Core i7 950 (OCed to 4GHz though with a noctua cooler, 4.2GHz was a bit unstable after 2 years for some reason), 12 gigs of RAM (6 sticks of 2GB for that triple channel), Dual GTX 580s 1.5GB as well 3 SSDs. I still think the rig is phenomenal as far as 1080p gaming goes, but I've been wanting to upgrade either this year or the next to go 1440p or 4k, and I don't feel like putting another 2k on a rig, so I'd keep a GTX 580 as a Physx processor and put in a brand new card to give it a few more years of life until the next big thing arrives (DDR4, PCIE 4.0, etc).

I am wondering the same thing though about the CPU being a bottleneck for a new GPU, however, considering it used to be Intel's enthusiast socket (socket 1366 --> socket 2011) and it's a Core i7 and still performs very well, I am guessing it shouldn't be but then I have no way to confirm myself :S Don't think any game fully uses this CPU yet though, unless I'm mistaken?
 
I don't think that will be too difficult, if you stick with postAA. It's when you throw in decent AA you run in to trouble, that will probably require more than 1 GPU.
I'm assuming the best AA options will be DX11 MSAA or downsampling (both very demanding techniques)

Here's hoping they don't go crazy with the vRAM requirments. :lol
 
I am in the same situation as you, Core i7 950 (OCed to 4GHz though with a noctua cooler, 4.2GHz was a bit unstable after 2 years for some reason), 12 gigs of RAM (6 sticks of 2GB for that triple channel), Dual GTX 580s 1.5GB as well 3 SSDs. I still think the rig is phenomenal as far as 1080p gaming goes, but I've been wanting to upgrade either this year or the next to go 1440p or 4k, and I don't feel like putting another 2k on a rig, so I'd keep a GTX 580 as a Physx processor and put in a brand new card to give it a few more years of life until the next big thing arrives (DDR4, PCIE 4.0, etc).

I am wondering the same thing though about the CPU being a bottleneck for a new GPU, however, considering it used to be Intel's enthusiast socket (socket 1366 --> socket 2011) and it's a Core i7 and still performs very well, I am guessing it shouldn't be but then I have no way to confirm myself :S Don't think any game fully uses this CPU yet though, unless I'm mistaken?

GTX 580 as Physx processor is kinda overkill, I think :)
not to mention GTX 580 maybe more power hungry than your next card
 
Do games take up more than 4 gb of VRAM already? Curious since I see posts wanting 6 gb.

A few games are set up to simply consume whatever amount is available, so it's not a fair indication of PCs lacking VRAM.

Anyone talking about 4GB+ of VRAM probably has in mind at least 1440p gaming and higher,
 
kind of interesting developments. 28nm is a given now after all the leaks saying such, but the 8gb vram is interesting. i want to see the reveal soon, and i want to know about pricing.
 
If I were running this show the 860 would come with 4 gb of gddr5. 6 for the 870, 8 for the 880 and 12 for the dual gpu solution.
 
A GK110 sized Maxwell on 28nm is likely to be ~20% faster than GK110. It would be a nice upgrade for GK104 owners. Not so much for Titan and 780Ti crowd.
 
My 670's held up rather well for a couple of years. I can still max everything I've played out and keep a solid 30fps at 1080p, which is all I ask for when playing the latest stuff. I hope the 870 can do the same.
 
I am in the same situation as you, Core i7 950 (OCed to 4GHz though with a noctua cooler, 4.2GHz was a bit unstable after 2 years for some reason), 12 gigs of RAM (6 sticks of 2GB for that triple channel), Dual GTX 580s 1.5GB as well 3 SSDs. I still think the rig is phenomenal as far as 1080p gaming goes, but I've been wanting to upgrade either this year or the next to go 1440p or 4k, and I don't feel like putting another 2k on a rig, so I'd keep a GTX 580 as a Physx processor and put in a brand new card to give it a few more years of life until the next big thing arrives (DDR4, PCIE 4.0, etc).

I am wondering the same thing though about the CPU being a bottleneck for a new GPU, however, considering it used to be Intel's enthusiast socket (socket 1366 --> socket 2011) and it's a Core i7 and still performs very well, I am guessing it shouldn't be but then I have no way to confirm myself :S Don't think any game fully uses this CPU yet though, unless I'm mistaken?

Haswell-E comes out this year with socket 2011-3 (note haswell-E wont work in a normal 2011 socket it has to be 2011-3)
6 core CPUs as the base. Should be a really nice upgrade with DDR4 RAM as well.
The 950 is really old now so I wouldn't be surprised if it starts to be a bottle neck. It's fallen quite far behind the current crop of consumer CPUs
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7+950+@+3.07GHz
 
Haswell-E comes out this year with socket 2011-3 (note haswell-E wont work in a normal 2011 socket it has to be 2011-3)
6 core CPUs as the base. Should be a really nice upgrade with DDR4 RAM as well.
The 950 is really old now so I wouldn't be surprised if it starts to be a bottle neck. It's fallen quite far behind the current crop of consumer CPUs
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7+950+@+3.07GHz

Tempting, didn't know DDR4 was coming out so soon, although I doubt the wife will let me spend that much money for a new rig so soon, which is why I need to see if I can make a compromise and just buy a brand new video card :P
 
I need something in September or I'll be forced to go with AMD again.
My HD4850X2 died recently and I'm going to build a new configuration this month. I can stay with the built-in HD4600 for a couple of months but not more.. come on NVIDIA!
 

Videocardz, haha.

Seriously they cannot really be sure 100% that this is gm204 by looking at a picture of the die. It could be the gm210 (big die) on 20 nm and that would be the reason why it's a tad bit smaller then the gk110.

I'm pretty sure it's the 28nm tho, Nvidia will be able to sell it for a few months before amd's new card and then proceed to release the real big die on 20nm. gm107 is 86% faster then gk1007 so yes a smaller die could be releasing 20-25% faster then a 780ti and 40% faster then a 780 with less power consumption.
 
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