Vire
Member
That's what I plan on doing actually. :|
Or I might just plop down $30 for a 60 GB version.
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-360-hard-drive-60gb-gs-refurb/72158
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Halo 4 - mandatory 8GB install for MP
- Thread starter dc89
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That's what I plan on doing actually. :|
Or I might just plop down $30 for a 60 GB version.
http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/accessories/xbox-360-hard-drive-60gb-gs-refurb/72158
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
I honestly could not imagine (At this stage in the generation) still having the 20gb launch HD.
When I say 20, I of course mean 13gb harddrive. Switched to the black elite after a red ring.
Even now with my 120gb I find myself clearing space and spring cleaning now and again.
Couldn't imagine what a pain this is going to be for people still on 20gb drives.
Seems odd that it requires 8gb free no? Maybe its just me and my never playing PC games, is this normal or???
When I say 20, I of course mean 13gb harddrive. Switched to the black elite after a red ring.
Even now with my 120gb I find myself clearing space and spring cleaning now and again.
Couldn't imagine what a pain this is going to be for people still on 20gb drives.
Seems odd that it requires 8gb free no? Maybe its just me and my never playing PC games, is this normal or???
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
It doesn't, but it requires more than 4 GB. Of course, with all the optional stuff (the whole Spartan Ops season, for instance) it might get even bigger than 8 GB, we don't know yet.
ODST is the only halo game that has been unaffected by the lack of a HDD this Gen.
Halo 3's audio is scaled back without a HDD, you originally couldn't play co-op in Reach without a HDD, and now you need 8GB for MP in halo 4.
343 are just kicking the requirements up a notch. =P
Vire
Member
Just a heads up for those wondering about Spartan Ops space:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39479427&postcount=18915
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39479427&postcount=18915
Zeouterlimits
Member
I'm fine with it, because you can buy a cheap usb stick and be done with it. So easy to solve this problem now if you want to avoid MS's HDDs.
Seconded. I get USB drives all the time. I will contribute to this cause.
Vire
Member
I always knew I liked Polygon...
Syphon Filter
Member
thats on MS for not making hdd standard.
dragonbane
Member
That doesn't sound good. I hope the performance doesn't suffer when using a USB drive, that would really suck.
Trunchisholm
Member
What's on them? They made a business decision that has proven to be the right one. If anything, it's not on them, but on the users, because the lack of standard hdd has been holding back the 360. I don't see how this is going to hurt Microsoft in any way. Very few people who are planning on buying Halo 4 will not do it because of this. Besides, that would hardly matter this late into the generation.
I presume that would depend on the flash drive's speed. If you have a decent one, transfer speeds shouldn't be lower:
http://www.examiner.com/article/a-look-at-xbox-360-performance-with-a-usb-flash-drive
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/fastest-usb-flash-drives-for-xbox-360_Page-3
Dude if I still was rocking my 20 gig from launch, I'd still be screwed. How anyone is still rocking a 13 gigs of available space with the glut of XBLA and media apps like ESPN and HBO Go is beyond my wildest imagination.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
No. HDD can be used for caching data... USB drives can't be used in the same way.
That's my understanding, any way. That's why they say HDD is preferable.
Simple, we delete and re-download a lot.
To be honest I survived a long time with my launch unit as well. When the slim finally came out with crazy trade credit at Gamestop, it made no sense to not upgrade and get the built in wifi and super quiet unit.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Again, I created a thread asking this very question if the lack of HDD has hurt the games and outside of a few exceptions like this it hasn't.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479004
Also, every system made that I know of besides stuff like the Virtual Boy had games released later in its life that wouldn't work on all systems produced without something extra even up to the last system released, the Vita.
Woah HDDs for 360 are pretty expensive compared to laptop/ps3 ones. Still 8GB is not a lot come on.
EDIT: Oh you can get a 16GB flash drive for 5-10 dollah and use that? Why are people up in arms about this, did they think that 20GB launch HDD was going bto last forever? I would under stad if it forced you to upgradde the HDD, but with a usb stick its sloved!
EDIT: Oh you can get a 16GB flash drive for 5-10 dollah and use that? Why are people up in arms about this, did they think that 20GB launch HDD was going bto last forever? I would under stad if it forced you to upgradde the HDD, but with a usb stick its sloved!
Silly.Mikey
Banned
The article doesn't say required install, it says it just needs at least that much room for MP. It doesn't say anything about installing the game as a requirement. Chillax people.
Trunchisholm
Member
I don't know if that is the case. As far as I know, Halo 3 is one of few 360 games that use the HDD for caching data, and load times were worse if you installed it because of that. Granted, that was before the NXE and optional installs, so they couldn't optimize for it. Newer games, such as Rage or Skyrim use the cache, but, at least in the case of the former, only when the game is not already installed.
Vire
Member
Uh what?
The very first sentence of the Xbox press release:
In other words it is required in order to play multiplayer.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
It doesnt say the game needs to be installed, it says that much room has to be available for the games MP online. Theres a difference.
Syphon Filter
Member
trolol
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
My 250GB regularly sits at around 60-90GB, depending on when I last cleared out some stuff. I have no problem with this, but it does suck for those with insufficient hard drive space.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
...Lots of 360 games use HDD for caching.
Trunchisholm
Member
It has, and quite a few people in that thread rightly pointed it out. Developers just coded around the limitations, but they could have done more if the HDD was mandatory on the 360.
That was a mistake on my part. I also mentioned Skyrim and Rage. I don't recall any others using the HDD cache. I would appreciate it if you could tell me what other games use it.
TheCongressman1
Member
This sucks. My original xbox red ringed not too long ago, and I bought a slim. The only way I could get a new system was to go for the cheaper pack, so I only have 4GB.
I have a couple of 8GB flash drives, but I'm guessing that wont work considering you can't completely format them.
I have a couple of 8GB flash drives, but I'm guessing that wont work considering you can't completely format them.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Outside of a few exceptions, no one pointed any thing out. The vast majority of games this gen have been created, reviewed great, and sold great all without a HDD. Please bump the thread and disagree if you feel differently.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
I don't understand how so many people game regularly with a 4gig xbox360 and yet cant afford a 16gig USB flash drive. They are literally 8-12$.
It was from day 1 IMO.
likedamaster
Member
Should've been the first reply.
MidnightCowboy
Member
as a launch 360 owner, this sucks 
Cornbread78
Member
that's Rage on PS3 kinda bad... I guess your gonna see HD sale cross promotions and bundle sales to boost hardware sales.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Your 8GB flash drive should do - they recommend at least an 8GB flash drive, they don't say it's an 8GB install.
Speedymanic
Banned
Goddamn, are some people really still rocking 20gb?
O_O
Ignoring this, that can't be enough for purpose. Xbla games alone would eat that up in no time.
O_O
Ignoring this, that can't be enough for purpose. Xbla games alone would eat that up in no time.
TheCongressman1
Member
I'll give it a try when the time comes. Thanks.
Fun fact, the only xbla game I've every purchased is Minecraft. Not everybody goes crazy with the downloading.
Speedymanic
Banned
That sucks, you've missed out on so many amazing games.
TheCongressman1
Member
That sucks, you've missed out on so many amazing games.
I've played a lot of Demos, and I don't really think I've missed out on too much.
Trunchisholm
Member
Read your own thread, even the first ten replies. You will find that most of the people there believe that it wasn't good for development. You were just going in circles with your point, which is the same you've making here, at the same time ignoring those made by other posters. Sure, having no HDD has not meant that the games on the 360 have been automatically crap. It just means that, technically, they could have been better.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
i dont have hbo so i dont have hbo go and lol sports nope not for me i usually only keep about 5 arcade games installed at a time
Silly.Mikey
Banned
lol i know its terrible. And yet, they couldn't even put THAT as a standard HDD instead of the 4gigs one. You thought you had it bad, ask them
Silly.Mikey
Banned
still rocking the 20 GB xbox.
Looks like I gotta invest in a flash drive, or start deleteing game saves
Use the cloud saving feature for the shit you wanna keep. It helps.
ii Stryker
Banned
lol at this being a thing, especially this late in the generation.
If you dont have the sufficient storage space and playing the Halo 4 MP is really important to you...go get a thumb drive. >_>
If you dont have the sufficient storage space and playing the Halo 4 MP is really important to you...go get a thumb drive. >_>
Fox Mulder
Member
still rocking the 20 GB xbox.
Looks like I gotta invest in a flash drive, or start deleteing game saves
Saves are the last thing I delete since they're so small.
Have you tried using cloud saves? If you really can't get a flash drive, I will mail you one of the handful I have.