Can't be written enough. It's his own fault he doesn't want to make the room for it.
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Halo 4 - mandatory 8GB install for MP
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Can't be written enough. It's his own fault he doesn't want to make the room for it.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Cannot believe people still own 20GB hard drives AND bitching about prices. I got my current 120GB hard drive off eBay in 2009 for $48. That was almost 3 years ago.
A quick browse on eBay right now shows 250GB hard drives go for around a whopping $40-$50.
A quick browse on eBay right now shows 250GB hard drives go for around a whopping $40-$50.
shinobi602
Member
What if he has a bunch of XBLA games installed? Delete them?
GodfatherX
Member
this is what im truly hoping for, i will play Halo 4 MP well after ive finished the campaign multiple times and moved on to other games
AlanzTalon
Member
I think i have burned more calories here arguing about the flash drives than it takes to actually get a flash drive.
dragonelite
Member
Why not not like he will loose his save game or wont be able to download them again for free.
Sure, he can re-download them for free when he wants to play them. He decided to stay with a 20GB HDD, he should find the way for his choice to stick with it.
Uno Venova
Banned
I have my 16gb stick if I need to play this.
So he'll have to keep redownloading to switch between wanting to play Halo and his arcade games?
Yes, or buy a bigger hard-drive. Breaking news, gaming costs money. Film at 11.
Not necessarily. The install says up to 8 gigs and I'm pretty sure you can free up 12 gigs on the launch version. I think I've done that before.
Of course this is if he was going to purchase the game. Which he said he probably wasn't.
So, yeah, it won't affect him.
Boss Man
Member
I've been keeping a close eye on HDD prices after that flood. I'm really hoping that prices normalize before we get the next-gen consoles. It seems like it's finally starting to happen.
Feel the Swift
Member
I'm livid.
AlanzTalon
Member
all massive hoops.
Neuromancer
Member
Sure.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Don't bother, you won't reason with them. That option's been mentioned numerous times already yet some people stubbornly choose to ignore it. So be it, who cares?
Yes, you can't use three at the same time, but you can use two for an added 30 gigs of storage.
I still can't believe any hardcore gamer would be happy with minimal storage this late in the generation. They either don't bother with the 360 much or just don't game much in general.
If someone still has a 20GB today, they are likely used to managing storage. =p
If someone still has a 20GB today, they are likely used to managing storage. =p
Screw you Microsoft and 343 Industries, you should have built your game around a base system that everybody uses. I would rather let this be playable on the lowest common system, then have more content that is bigger than the shipping disk. What the hell? How dare you make all this new content and it being of substantial quantity. Back in my day that shit use to be compressed the eff on the disk, it was low quality but at least it was on the disk.
Screw the guys that have bigger hard drives, what are they? Bunch of nerds, ruining it for us. Am I going to have to slap a liberty boy? I dont care about Spartan Ops or whatever they copied from Call of Activision I would rather have a full sized poster of Chief slapping Stinkles on the buttocks. For god sake they could have at least package a 343 branded deodorant.
Screw the guys that have bigger hard drives, what are they? Bunch of nerds, ruining it for us. Am I going to have to slap a liberty boy? I dont care about Spartan Ops or whatever they copied from Call of Activision I would rather have a full sized poster of Chief slapping Stinkles on the buttocks. For god sake they could have at least package a 343 branded deodorant.
I AM A WIZARD
Completely agree with this post. Compress all videos so they look like trash. Tune down the graphics so textures look blurry enough to fit on disc without an install. Remove a couple multiplayer maps, cancel dlc plans (who has space for maps?). Maybe they can compress the audio too? The more static the better. Maybe save some space and remove a few guns and animations? Animating feet probably takes up a lot of space. Why not just have enemies float towards you?
shinobi602
Member
So keep downloading and redownloading between games. Great.
Or not, since there is this workaround for Halo 4 at least.
You're acting like this is some sort of affliction.
Neuromancer
Member
I didn't say it was ideal. =p
shinobi602
Member
I wouldn't call this an ideal "workaround". DVD9 is outdated.
shinobi602
Member
No...but I am saying it would be extremely annoying and tiresome.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
If only there was a way to make this less annoying and tiresome than deleting and downloading Arcade games all the time...
If only...
VGChampion
Member
Well, I've been at capacity for years on my launch 20GB hard drive. I love Halo but I'm still not upgrading. This sucks massively. I didn't play a ton of Reach MP but I still played. Guess I'll be going from years of Halo 1-3 to barely a week with Halo 4.
And I may try the flash drive route but just because of my personal 360 it's not the best solution. My USB's in the front have become almost unusable thanks to the amount of times idiots have jammed Rock Band / Guitar Hero instruments into my system wrong.
And I may try the flash drive route but just because of my personal 360 it's not the best solution. My USB's in the front have become almost unusable thanks to the amount of times idiots have jammed Rock Band / Guitar Hero instruments into my system wrong.
MMaRsu
Banned
Yup it's either this or buy a new HDD. Or maybe a 16GB USB stick which we are not even sure if that will work.
Either way it's that or spending more money on top of Halo 4.
Beer Monkey
Member
Honestly, given that we are in the seventh year of the Xbox 360, DVD-9 was the right choice. Of course some titles are pushing the limits, we are at the end of the generation.
Did you know that the actual game data in Alan Wake is a measly 2.4GB?
a Master Ninja
Member
"A $3 flash drive is where I draw a line in the sand, people!"
I have a 16GB flash drive just sitting here. If you PM me your shipping address I'll send it to you. I'm completely serious.
Vire
Member
If this means higher quality assets and textures, I'm all for it.
Shame though, I only have a 20 gig one but I'll manage to find a way...
This is even crazier:
It's possible that the recently revealed Spartan Ops campaign, which will eventually feature 12 "incremental" hours across 50 missions, will increase required HDD space even further.
I guess I'll get a bigger HD... :/
Shame though, I only have a 20 gig one but I'll manage to find a way...
This is even crazier:
It's possible that the recently revealed Spartan Ops campaign, which will eventually feature 12 "incremental" hours across 50 missions, will increase required HDD space even further.
I guess I'll get a bigger HD... :/
shinobi602
Member
Suitable tag.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Ignorant response.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
I already have several 8GB USB sticks lying around, and I'm not even using them.
Just call me Mr Moneybags.
Just call me Mr Moneybags.
minasodaboy
Member
for those not flipping out about having the use a flash drive, i have this plugged into the back of my 360 and it works great (i used it for installing and running skyrim and halo anniversary).
i got it so i could have it plugged into the back of my 360, which sits in a media cabinet, and never have to touch it...basically it is just another HDD for me.
16GB on amazon, smaller than a coin...$12.50
i got it so i could have it plugged into the back of my 360, which sits in a media cabinet, and never have to touch it...basically it is just another HDD for me.
16GB on amazon, smaller than a coin...$12.50
Just when I when I thought the folks on GAF couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this....AND TOTALLY REDEEM IT! STILL WANT TO GO TO ASPEN?!
Seriously though, that's really nice of you.
It's far from ideal, but it isn't limiting the size Halo 4.
The relative absence of HD FMV is where it's fallen down.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
Glad I opted in for a slim.
Those 250 GBs will last me until the next hardware installment.
Those 250 GBs will last me until the next hardware installment.
base shagohod
Member
I understand this is frustrating to the people this affects, and that it's kind of annoying for everyday people (and kids) who don't know much about this, or won't even know until after buying the game, but look...
http://blog.yellowchilli.net/2010/04/xbox-360-usb-stick-flash-drive.html
A quick Google search (the first result, too) gives us a list of approved USB sticks. Yeah, it's 2 years old, but I'm sure you can work with it.
I'm willing to reason with people saying this is frustrating, but the level of complaining here is a little excessive. Being the cynic that I am, I should have seen this coming clicking on this thread.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
It is a problem with games that use it. However, I really wish no games would use it anymore, except for maybe in-engine rendered cutscenes used to mask loading times. CG cutscenes, one the most useless additions to video games.
I loved them as a kid, I'll admit that, but it was the 90s, that shit was still mindblowing back then.
Trunchisholm
Member
Yep, keep ignoring the facts. You don't have to buy their overpriced HDDs. You don't even have to give them a cent when you can get a third-party HDD or flash drive.
This is not Microsoft enforcing the use of larger HDDs to make a quick buck. They've actually done the exact opposite during the whole generation, letting people with Arcade models play almost everything without penalties. In fact, they have been criticised for that, and rightly so. Out of all the design decisions they made at the beginning of the generation, the lack of standard HDD has been the one thing that has held back 360 games the most. I can't believe that, all of places, it would be here that people would complain about something that can only be beneficial. Having to pay 5€ for a better experience? Absolutely ludicrous, I know.
So much whining in this thread. This gen is winding it's down and these consoles are being pushed to the edge. Concessions have to be made, in this case installing 8GB to the HDD OR $7 8GB USB drive. They already said they've done their homework on how many this will effect, and the number is very small.
If you can't stomach $7 then maybe you shouldn't be spending your 'discretionary income' on games. Or you could just not buy the game at all to 'fight the man'. Either way dealwitit. If this is what had to be done to get the most optimal performance than so be it.
If you can't stomach $7 then maybe you shouldn't be spending your 'discretionary income' on games. Or you could just not buy the game at all to 'fight the man'. Either way dealwitit. If this is what had to be done to get the most optimal performance than so be it.
dilatedmuscle
Member
This is fucken lame, i have a small HDD. Why does it require such a massive install? cant they just have a seperate disk?
I love this thread. I mean heaven forbid somebody with a 20 GB harddrive actually be expected to delete some games to make room for this. You guys crack me up. If you have a 20 GB HDD, really want to play the MP, and really don't want to upgrade, please stop acting like you won't find a way to make it work.
JustProgress
Member
This makes too much sense.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
You are one of my favorite Gaffers.
Vire
Member
To be fair to the 20 Gig owners, it isn't going to be just 8 gigs.
The Spartan Ops missions will require additional space, and then if you get invested in the multiplayer you are talking even more space for future map pack DLC.
So you might literally have to delete every single thing on your harddrive if you want the "optimal" Halo experience. Which the press release states that the "optimal" experience is only achieved through a 360 harddrive.
Note that they didn't say Flashdrive for optimal.
Plus it's a hassle. But I think the trade off is worth it in the long run if we get higher resolution assets.
The Spartan Ops missions will require additional space, and then if you get invested in the multiplayer you are talking even more space for future map pack DLC.
So you might literally have to delete every single thing on your harddrive if you want the "optimal" Halo experience. Which the press release states that the "optimal" experience is only achieved through a 360 harddrive.
Xbox said:
Note that they didn't say Flashdrive for optimal.
Plus it's a hassle. But I think the trade off is worth it in the long run if we get higher resolution assets.
Then transfer the content on the HDD to the flashdrive, and voilà -- empty HDD waiting for Halo 4.