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[Ghazi]

I would go back in time and tell Bungie to stop making Halo for Tawpgun

That's understandable, I mean it's kinda plummeted since Halo 1/2 days. I thought Halo 3 was pretty good (I'm assuming H3 is what you're referring to?), but (for me) Reach was where it started going down hill.

 

[Booshka]

I hesitated to include Reach in that because it was in development for 3 years and had no substantial increase over Halo 3 ;[

Sure it had FF, but ODST had it too (and much better). Halo hasn't added anything to move the industry as a whole (let alone the franchise) forward since 2007.

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And it breaks my heart.

Halo's identity is static and dynamic. Static in the universe and how the game feels, but dynamic in that it can be played in so many ways. Those experiences you call mediocre or shallow are your opinions obviously, but that doesn't mean the quality of the game takes a hit for it. The opposite can easily be argued.

BigShow brought it up in his defense which is what you're agreeing with, but you guys forgot that SC2's Custom Games can be nothing like the "identity" of the main game/multiplayer itself. Halo needs to seriously step it up next gen and at least that's something we can all agree with lol


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No older people who aren't into games are going to watch eSports, so they should stop running it like ESPN. EVO is the way those streams should be ran; announcers being themselves that the audience are fans of and not teenagers in suits trying to talk professionally.

Also, the shit talking they allow is beyond me.. Sure people can argue for it, but as professional as they want their image to be MLG and other events should start limiting that kind of nonsense. That recent AGL tourney was out of hand..

What I failed to clarify is that it's not like I don't want Halo to be excellent at everything, but that I don't trust 343 to be up to the task of doing it. I'm not surprised that Blizzard can make SC2 one of the greatest eSports titles of all time, while still having excellent user mods and completely unique game modes spurred out of their base game. But, 343 being able to do the same thing with Halo, on consoles? Good fucking luck. Because of this, just give me what I already know is the best Halo can be, and then go on trying to make whatever Halo you want for the masses, I'll be content with Halo CE MP on XBL at 60 FPS.

 

[Ken]

Based on what we're hearing, the X's disappear when the player spawns, which is just how the X's worked in every Halo game.

Except instant respawn wasn't in every previous Halo game.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

^ lol Ken, mine is BETTER!

Based on what we're hearing, the X's disappear when the player spawns, which is just how the X's worked in every Halo game.

Instant respawn is the issue.

What I failed to clarify is that it's not like I don't want Halo to be excellent at everything, but that I don't trust 343 to be up to the task of doing it. I'm not surprised that Blizzard can make SC2 one of the greatest eSports titles of all time, while still having excellent user mods and completely unique game modes spurred out of their base game. But, 343 being able to do the same thing with Halo, on consoles? Good fucking luck. Because of this, just give me what I already know is the best Halo can be, and then go on trying to make whatever Halo you want for the masses, I'll be content with Halo CE MP on XBL at 60 FPS.

Combat Evolved 2. Also, let me direct you over here.

 

[CyReN]

hmmmm

You follow me but not Duncan? Shame

 

[Steelyuhas]

Except instant respawn wasn't in every previous Halo game.

Instant respawn is the issue.

Yes, instant respawn sucks, but X's signifying dead players being there when players aren't dead makes no sense at all.

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Apparently the X's aren't red though.

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lol at you babbies picking games incorrectly in the tourney. Get on my wolfy level.

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Although UNLV needs to make a little run here.

 

[Madness]

Can someone please ask them why X's were removed in the first place. I'd love to hear their honest response.

 

[Pop]

Yes, instant respawn sucks, but X's signifying dead players being there when players aren't dead makes no sense at all.

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Apparently the X's aren't red though.

So X's will last about 1 second now.

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I hope that isn't true, jesus.

 

[heckfu]

I love you, hows your bracket going?

A couple of my bolder predictions haven't panned out but I'm still holding strong!

 

[Poker Face]

the red x isn't even red?

:/

 

[IHaveIce]

You follow me but not Duncan? Shame

I follow both of you I think it was shown because I clicked on the tweet?

Well guys, predictions for tommorrows reveal? Will it really be a new Forge world?

 

[Steelyuhas]

So X's will last about 1 second now.

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I hope that isn't true, jesus.

In slayer yes.

That's probably the reason they didn't have then in the first place, because they are essentially useless with instant respawn. They will obviously be a welcome addition to objective gametypes though.

A couple of my bolder predictions haven't panned out but I'm still holding strong!

I guess if you consider first loser holding strong!

Nah, in all seriousness the group has done pretty well today. Even the people that lost a number of games today didn't have any bracket breaking loses.

Fuck, I'm going to lose my first game of the day with this Cal-UNLV game.

 

[blamite]

the red x isn't even red?

:/

 

[Homeboyd]

Cal is going to beat unlv... Fuck

 

[Overdoziz]

the red x isn't even red?

:/

 

[Poker Face]

http://i.imgur.com/aH9IXky.jpg[/QUOTE]

never even noticed the X was white in reach

 

[blamite]

 

[Havok]

Do we know if these red/blue/whatever Xs have the player's callsign listed as well? I would imagine so, but it's those little (but really important) details that slip through the cracks sometimes.

 

[willow ve]

Title Update should have fixed AFK... how this still in games? Thanks Obama.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Do we know if these red/blue/whatever Xs have the player's callsign listed as well? I would imagine so, but it's those little (but really important) details that slip through the cracks sometimes.

Halo 3, Reach, and ODST had it

 

[Steelyuhas]

Damn, the perfection bid dies with UNLV.

Edit: oh shit there's still a chance!

 

[Havok]

Halo 3 is the only one that did it. ODST might also have it.

Reach listed them right next to the X.

There is no reason to regress. I only ask because Halo 4 is such a clear example of a lot of small things not being implemented and the game suffering for it.

 

[Sanjuro]

Any of you fuckers need a extra on a PAX East team? Love to play with you gents again.

 

[Bogey On My Six]

Love sitting at a black screen because jip changes host 5 times in one game. Bravo, 343.

Nvm it just boots me into a jip game. Fuuuuuuuuck youuuuu 343

 

[wwm0nkey]

Title Update should have fixed AFK... how this still in games? Thanks Obama.

I REALLY don't get why all games don't check for AFK and repetitive button movement, doesn't seem like its that hard.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Reach listed them right next to the X.

There is no reason to regress.

Ah yes that is correct. I forgot because the image linked above earlier was from Beta Invasion.

 

[Mix]

Knowing what your secondary weapon with a quick glance of the top right of your screen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[Twilight Gap]

Knowing what your secondary weapon with a quick glance of the top right of your screen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOPE IT TAKES MORE SKILL TO REMEMBER

 

[Mix]

NOPE IT TAKES MORE SKILL TO REMEMBER

Fucking lol

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

With loadouts do you really forget what secondary weapon you have? I mean, if you do, fine have them add it back, but I'm curious.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Do we know if these red/blue/whatever Xs have the player's callsign listed as well? I would imagine so, but it's those little (but really important) details that slip through the cracks sometimes.

Speaking of callsigns.. Escort without the player's callsign is so damn frustrating sometimes. +10 HEADSHOT, but removing useful information like that? Having to point your weapon at Escort to see who is holding it is tedious.

 

[Mix]

With loadouts do you really forget what secondary weapon you have? I mean, if you do, fine have them add it back, but I'm curious.

Not when I first respawn, but all of my loadouts are very similar and I pick up a sniper and try to swap back to my BR to get that last shot instead of wasting a sniper round, and see I have a fucking PP instead.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

Do we know if these red/blue/whatever Xs have the player's callsign listed as well? I would imagine so, but it's those little (but really important) details that slip through the cracks sometimes.

I don't think so, just the x and waypoint. I wasn't looking for that specifically though, I'll check tomorrow.

 

[Twilight Gap]

With loadouts do you really forget what secondary weapon you have? I mean, if you do, fine have them add it back, but I'm curious.

Spawning into the game, no. But during the course of the match, things like how many rockets you have left or whether you picked up the right secondary in that scrap pile can become lost in time.

Not having the icon because of screen clutter is tantamount to not having a crosshair.

JUST REMEMBER THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN THE SLASO GUYS HAVE DONE IT FOR YEARS

 

[Havok]

Speaking of callsigns.. Escort without the player's callsign is so damn frustrating sometimes. +10 HEADSHOT, but having to point your weapon at Escort to see who is holding it is tedious.

Carrier waypoints are screwed up in a bunch of ways. There's the ESCORT instead of callsign problem that you mentioned, then there's the fact that if you're the flag carrier and your flag is away (on the ground), you don't get the flag away/return time waypoint unless an enemy picks it up. You still get the KILL waypoint, just not the away one. It's a whole lot of nonsense.

I don't think so, just the x and waypoint. I wasn't looking for that specifically though, I'll check tomorrow.

Thanks, much appreciated. If not, then that's a huge bummer.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

its all good first round doesnt matter too much.

 

[Fracas]

Lack of upsets is killing me.

Southern could've made history

 

[Homeboyd]

Lack of upsets is killing me.

Southern could've made history

We just had one!

 

[Fuchsdh]

Knowing what your secondary weapon with a quick glance of the top right of your screen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Have not missed that at all. Would prefer more stuff gone from the UI to keep the clutter down while we're at it.

 

[Blueblur1]

With loadouts do you really forget what secondary weapon you have? I mean, if you do, fine have them add it back, but I'm curious.

I forget since I use all 5 loadouts in most matches and sometimes I switch to a Plasma Pistol expecting a Pistol. Having it mixed in some loadouts isn't always easy to remember.

 

[Fracas]

We just had one!

12 over a 5 doesn't count

At least Harvard's donging on New Mexico at the moment

 

[Tashi]

I don't think so, just the x and waypoint. I wasn't looking for that specifically though, I'll check tomorrow.

How was the party?

 

[Sanjuro]

You monsters.

 

[Ghazi]

I know the way Halo 4 shows off kill info sucks, but I was playing Battlefield 3 yesterday and damn does it suck more. I had like 2 ribbons pop up at the top of the screen and ALL CAPS BIG BRIGHT TEXT occupying the bottom. If I had a picture of it I'd link, but I don't.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

How was the party?

Slayer pro 2v2v2v2 on new maps with TU. Kevin Franklin on my team, next to me on the couch. Every time my drink was low, bs angel would bring me a new Jack & Coke. Swag bag with a wireless R.A.T.mouse and other cool stuff.

It was fun. NYCC party was better though, if only because there were more GAF people to goof around with. Had a great conversation with vhfive though, dude is legit.

 

[Duji]

NOPE IT TAKES MORE SKILL TO REMEMBER

Frankie said showing the secondary weapon leads to confusion. But seriously, have any of you guys ever glanced at your secondary and confused it for another weapon? This seems like something a noob would do. Maybe it was commonplace over at 343i. Idk.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

12 over a 5 doesn't count

At least Harvard's donging on New Mexico at the moment

Oregon upset, although I dont know if that counts. Southern would have been friggen insane and would have completely busted my bracket, lord have mercy.

 

[Tashi]

Slayer pro 2v2v2v2 on new maps with TU. Kevin Franklin on my team, next to me on the couch. Every time my drink was low, bs angel would bring me a new Jack & Coke. Swag bag with a wireless R.A.T.mouse and other cool stuff.

It was fun. NYCC party was better though, if only because there were more GAF people to goof around with. Had a great conversation with vhfive though, dude is legit.

God damn I wish I could have gone. Sounds like an awesome time.

Five is the shit.

 

[FyreWulff]

i'm sad to see duncan isn't singing at the harmonix party

http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/

 

[Franklinator]

I'm still sad that Davidson blew it.

And coming into the game, I really thought South Dakota St. would beat Michigan. They're a really good team, but they looked awful tonight.

edit: Oh yeah, and Belmont. They were even more disappointing!