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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room

I don't think anyone hates the new mode, what most people don't like is that they don't have the option to customize it.
If you consider padding our kill stats to mean having a giant icon over your head that screams "KILL ME" sure. If you're good enough to get multiple kills with a slightly better magnum and the whole enemy team coming at you then more power to you.
That off chance is still leagues better than people not even attempting to pick up the flag at all.
Good Posts. I don't see these problems happening soon, but if not fixed they might lose CTF players b'cuz of it later on. Imo.
 

BigShow36

Member
Luckily the option to play a custom CTF game in Halo 3 and Reach still exists. Dunno what the problem is.

The problem is that both of those games are so abysmally horrible that I stopped playing them years before their "lifespan" was through to begin with. So yes, there is a problem.
 
I just played some Reach. WHAT

Couple of games of super slayer, had fun except that they felt like slow motion slideshows.. 30fps halo used to feel smooth to me before I got into pc gaming. Fuck. :(

Hire juices -> introduce 60fps mode with simpler visuals in one of the first patches for Halo 4.

Thanks.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I can see it now...

Halo 4 sucks! Reach was so much better!

Regardless of what they do to CTF - and I'm not up in arms over the changes - Halo 4 is the better game. I hesitate to make predictions about public reactions in general, but I think that's one thing that there will be relatively little debate about.
 

Akai__

Member
Me too! The snowy mountain map (Alborz Mountain I think) looks so good.

I'm also excited because it looks like what the other 2 map packs should've been.

Seriously the last patch of Battlefield 3 was just awful. The Helicopter's are now totally useless. Not only that they removed the flares for the second gunner, no, they removed the under the radar function and you have a 50% chance to flare the IGLA and when it hits you, it's a one hit kill. Don't know, why they did this, IMO they could just increase the flare timer or add some mobile AA on other maps...

DICE is dissapointing me, since the custom browser patch...
 

Louis Wu

Member
Every time I play with GAFFers who moan about mismatched games, the one time we do finally get matched evenly and get smoked, all I hear is moaning about how fat the kids are. Can't have it both ways!

You get 8 guys, all with K/Ds in Reach of about 1.8-2.0, you're still going to get games where one team loses by 20 at times just because of how the game is designed. My regular launch crew for example struggled against good people who abused Jetpack, there's really no way to convey that in a matching system. "Ok, don't match these guys against 4 jetpackers, it will end badly, find match, go!" lol

The simple answer is that even though that's how it's played for a decade, it hasn't exactly been popular in the regular play space the past few games. I see it as them trying to encourage more people to play objective, which is something we all want I believe.

I'm totally in agreement that the option should be there, but it is also entirely possible there is a very good reason it can't be at this time. There's no logical explanation as to why there shouldn't be options to play classic flag if you want to, so I have to believe it's a technical hurdle due to the new mechanics.
When the hell did Ram become the most reasonable poster in here? I hate this - it's like having to walk around your house looking down, because who knows, maybe there's a new sinkhole in your living room.

MY REALITY IS SHAKEN
 

nillapuddin

Member
Has it ever been acknowledged that additional armor is possible through DLC?

They couldnt do it with Reach, was this simply because Reach wasnt a flexible enough system to allow it?

With 343 handling Halo 4 from the beginning do you think they left the side door unlocked so they could work this in later?

Not so I can get my hopes up for Mk V coming to the game, just as a technical question on the possibilities of post-launch non-map content
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Isn't it extremly simple and clear? 343i wants to differentiate itself. They distance themselves from Bungie whenever possible.
Getting rid of one iconic helmet is such a simple thing to do (yet effective, in some odd twisted way, i'd imagine)... especially when they still leave another iconic design in. In Halo 5, even that's gone, and no one except the HaloGAF (or other Halo fan communities) will care.
You slowly cut any ties to past.
Why were the Covenant species changed so much? Just because. Why is the art overall changed so much? Just because.

This is of course just how i think it went.

Sorry, i'm being cynical, two weeks of fewer does that.
Covenant, Halo 6:

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Vire

Member
Has it ever been acknowledged that additional armor is possible through DLC?

They couldnt do it with Reach, was this simply because Reach wasnt a flexible enough system to allow it?

With 343 handling Halo 4 from the beginning do you think they left the side door unlocked so they could work this in later?

Not so I can get my hopes up for Mk V coming to the game, just as a technical question on the possibilities of post-launch non-map content

Who cares about Mk V.

What about my GUNGNIR? :(
 
When the hell did Ram become the most reasonable poster in here? I hate this - it's like having to walk around your house looking down, because who knows, maybe there's a new sinkhole in your living room.

MY REALITY IS SHAKEN
Maybe he used some gloryholes over the weekend.

 
It's silly when you look at it from a general perspective, but considering we have the option to look like 30 different kinds of Dinobot/Robocop clusterfucks but not the iconic look of the entire franchise, it begins to be a legitimate complaint.

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ATTACK THEM WHILE THEY'RE WEAK OPTIMUS!


Wasn't referring to anything in particular, certainly not last night since I can hardly hear call outs to begin wih because of my headset malfunctioning. I'm just pointing out a general trend I've noticed, it's most easily observed when partying up with people after a game. It's good times until you lose one, then everyone gets out fast.

People are stupid confirmed.
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
It's silly when you look at it from a general perspective, but considering we have the option to look like 30 different kinds of Dinobot/Robocop clusterfucks but not the iconic look of the entire franchise, it begins to be a legitimate complaint.
All you had to say was: They kept the AR but they didn't keep the helmet.

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Not that I have strong feelings one way or the other in regards to this.
 

Vire

Member
So for the pre-order bonuses, is it just a skin or is it the actual armor?

Cause I'm going to be pissed if the only way I can get GUNGNIR is from the Microsoft Store.
 

Pop

Member
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).

Or, you know, the people who want to win the CTF game.

I played it, the new rules are fine. Yeah, they aren't the exact same as Halo 3 or Reach, but they are fine. It's still CTF. Maybe I was blinded by how giddy I was to finally get points for driving the flag holder to the score, but it was still a lot of fun.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).

Hopefully terribad kids will match with terribad kids. I apologize if you're a terribad kid.

Good matchmaking goes a long way.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).

that's stupid, you didn't play it and it is still tweaked. I don't have anything agaisnt the new type, but the old should still be in for customs
 

789shadow

Banned
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).
Playing with randoms is never as good as playing with friends.
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).
Well we can't all be ultimate badasses, I understand you're not fit for the job.
 

L1NETT

Member
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).

Flagnumsassination! +25!

Playing solo objective is going to be tricky in Halo 4. Dead silence on your team means it will be super hard to run the flag.

It should (in a way) promote teamwork, as without it you aren't going to win.

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Are any of you guys confirmed to be going Eurogamer? If so, which days? I could put together a list (PM) if you want.
 

Pop

Member
Hey I still stand by my decision to never pick up flag. Ok wait only if the flag carrier somehow dies inches away from scoring then I'll get the points. And I'm sure matching with other players will be excellent just like Reach, progression exp system and all.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).

Good thing flag will be in its own playlist. Just don't enter that playlist. Problem solved.
 

789shadow

Banned
Hey I still stand by my decision to never pick up flag. Ok wait only if the flag carrier somehow dies inches away from scoring then I'll get the points. And I'm sure matching with other players will be excellent just like Reach, progression exp system and all.
Just betray the flag carrier every time they're about to score.
 
Looking forward to never picking up the flag again in obj games. Besides I guess I'll enjoy losing more cause you know the only people picking it up will be the ones who think flagnum is awesome(terribad kids).

What happened to people who like to run the objective?

I think the Flag Runner and Flag Champion medals are really cool and definitely a nice way of seeing if players like Objectives in the long run. Maybe I'm a sucker for these things but I like the added emphasis on escorting the flag. Sure you'll die perhaps a bit faster now that you hold the flag but it's not as if they can return the flag any faster.

That's another thing. Defensive play is going to have to step it up too. The flag can't be returned and it's so much easier to pick up. The defensive line so to speak is going to have to set up in between the flag and the opponent's base. People sprinting in to touch it will be an annoying tactic if you defend to far ack into your own base.

Can't wait to see how competitive this goes.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Hey I still stand by my decision to never pick up flag. Ok wait only if the flag carrier somehow dies inches away from scoring then I'll get the points. And I'm sure matching with other players will be excellent just like Reach, progression exp system and all.

You sound like a 12 year old
 
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