Support NeoGAF

[mcz117chief]

2 Blurays means the game is more expensive. What other games come on 2 discs nowadays?

Halo 4 did, not blu-rays though but still.

 

[Hammer24]

This wouldn't bother me but downloading on the XBONE is so damn slow. It took forever just to get the Killer Instinct Season 2 update.

Change the DNS settings from Auto to Google DNS. Even the OS is much faster.

 

[Spades]

I supposed there had to be at least one negative thing about MCC, because everything else has been pretty close to perfection so far.

For me and many others with a fast download speed, this isn't a problem. But I understand it'll cause frustrations for those that don't.

 

[LeGourmand]

I wish game developers would update files instead of completely replacing them when doing updates.

 

[JaggedSac]

They talked about it in the gone gold post on waypoint.



We're going to reach a point were we will be preloading day 1 patches soon enough. 20 gigs is huge!

With this, I hope it preloads. It is content they are already done with and couldn't fit on a Blu-ray. Having said that, holy hell. Am I going to be downloading a 60gb file for this game?

 

[Grisby]

Bullshit. Bet you it's friggin Spartan Ops or something like that.

 

[BronsonLee]

This would be a deal breaker for me. 20 gigs on my Internet? oh lord

 

[liquidtmd]

Im on a 40MB uncapped connection but still to echo the point, Jesus Christ!

Cmon guys this is silly. This really should be on a second disc. Youve got games on the PS4/Xbone on retail by themselves that are smaller

 

[Raide]

Do blu-rays even have any significant production costs anymore? IIRC, the cost for a single disk were already below $1 a few years ago.

I guess now its the increased cost during development to fill those discs with HD textures etc etc.. No point wasting a disc to half fill it.

 

[Welfare]

Wait, what about people that don't have an internet connection?

How do they get MP?

Very good question.

 

[dancrane212]

Bullshit. Bet you it's friggin Spartan Ops or something like that.

Nope, that doesn't release until December.

One caveat we wanted to share is that Spartan Ops, our episodic co-op experience from Halo 4, will now release in December. In the meantime, we’re making some technical enhancements to that experience to make sure it’s smoother and even better than before. All ten episodes will be available at the same time, so we’re working to make an event out of it with our Community teams.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

Maybe it's too early in the morning and I'm dumb but this



Makes it sound almost like MP is a download rather than on the disc.

I believe that is the case and I assume you mean local. I immediately thought online haha. My apologies sir!

 

[danwarb]

^ Bloody hell that's big.

At least we can play the campaigns straight away. The update is MP stuff.

 

[jayu26]

$$$$

2 Blurays means the game is more expensive. What other games come on 2 discs nowadays?

Okay, so it's probably more expensive than running the servers. Still 20GB is lot, specially for people with bandwidth caps.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Hay-Zeus!

 

[EmptySpace]

Much cheaper to print 2 discs in previous gens. Bluray disc are still more expensive, hence most developers squeezing everything onto 1 disc or doing what 343 do and adding updates afterwards.

bluray has been around since 2006. costs have gone way down. even shit movies like "this is the end" gets bluray releases.

even when the dvd was still new, games got printed on 2 dvds and you get charged the same.

 

[Clawww]

Good lord, that's ridiculous.

I really feel sorry for people with data caps. Seems like console makers and publishers are keen to just ignore that issue completely. If your ISP sucks then this basically seems like a giant "fuck you."

consumers, in turn, should throw a giant "fuck you" to their ISP

 

[aravuus]

Adding in Reach and ODST at the last minute?

This would actually make me buy the console and MCC right away

60fps Reach would keep me occupied a loooong time

 

[Raide]

Okay, so it's probably more expensive than running the servers. Still 20GB is lot, specially for people with bandwidth caps.

Agreed. 20Gb is pretty beefy, even for those with moderately good internet. Kinda glad consoles can update while in standby.

 

[mrklaw]

maybe they can't support multiple disc games on xbox? Have there been any?

 

[user_nat]

I was wondering how they were going to fit this on 1 disc. I guess this answers it.

I suspect we'll see this more often than multi disc games this gen.

 

[JaggedSac]

Maybe it's too early in the morning and I'm dumb but this



Makes it sound almost like MP is a download rather than on the disc.

I think that person forgot LAN and split-screen were a big part of Halo and not just online MP. At which point, if you don't have internet to download the online MP, then you aren't going to be playing online MP anyway.

 

[Spades]

Bullshit. Bet you it's friggin Spartan Ops or something like that.

Spartan Ops is coming as separate (free, presumably) DLC in December.

 

[Ol No Bones]

If it adds 20GB of content... What the hell is on the actual disc? Pictures of J Allard?

I would buy that.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Holy shit balls! That's crazy!

 

[Shin-Ra]

I supposed there had to be at least one negative thing about MCC, because everything else has been pretty close to perfection so far.

For me and many others with a fast download speed, this isn't a problem. But I understand it'll cause frustrations for those that don't.

They got anisotropic filtering in?

It was pretty shocking to see that CE MP footage without AF.

 

[derFeef]

If I go digital I should not need the update, right?

 

[reddish]

I don't mind the size if it's to get all the content in there, but I hope the preloaded digital version is for the entire ~65gb of content. It'd be really weird to me to preload 45gb and then have to download another 20gb after the game launches.

Not the end of the world, obviously, but would be cool to get to actually get to play it on launch day.

EDIT: Actually, though I have a good internet connection and like my games digital -- it's pretty messed up if there's no way to get the full game you bought without an internet connection (or might take an insane amount of time to get if you have a slow one with tons of room for faulty downloads). It's early, so maybe there's an explanation and we're jumping the gun -- but at first glance, this seems like a really weird and potentially bad move to save the manufacturing costs on a second disc.

 

[Spineker]

Fucking hell, this is getting out of control.

 

[op_ivy]

probably too late but it would be better if they'd just do a 2-disc release instead...

 

[BibiMaghoo]

So is the game 65Gb? Or is some of that 45 overwritten?

 

[JaggedSac]

If I go digital I should not need the update, right?

That is what I would like to know. At least not the whole 20gb one. Just let me preload the whole 60gb shebang at once.

 

[Raide]

If I go digital I should not need the update, right?

The update seems to be content they could not fit on disc. So it sounds mandatory.

 

[Grisby]

Nope, that doesn't release until December.

Spartan Ops is coming as separate (free, presumably) DLC in December.

Hooray.

Thanks for the correction though.

 

[DudeWithNoName]

lol instead of putting it on a second disc they force consumers to download 20gb of data.


way to save some money.

Edited because I apparently can't do simple math

 

[RandyBobandy]

I'd rather have a patch than an extra disc tbh

Fuck that

 

[reptilescorpio]

If only they put 2 discs in the retail release this could be avoided.

 

[JaggedSac]

The update seems to be content they could not fit on disc. So it sounds mandatory.

There is no arbitrary limit on download sizes so why would disc size affect the digital version.

 

[Kriken]

RIP bandwith caps

 

[MCD]

If I go digital I should not need the update, right?

it will download it automatically.

 

[Ol No Bones]

I supposed there had to be at least one negative thing about MCC, because everything else has been pretty close to perfection so far.

For me and many others with a fast download speed, this isn't a problem. But I understand it'll cause frustrations for those that don't.

If the worst thing about this game is having too much content to fit on a disk than we are in for a real treat.

 

[singhr1]

It says preload out today. We'll know if you can preload that 20 GB soon enough. Also, I hope there are some digital preorder skulls like there are for retailers.

Another interesting note, Spartan Ops delayed until December. That's fine I guess, everybody gonna be playing Campaign/Multiplayer first anyway.

 

[jet1911]

lol, given such updates, what's the point of physical disk releases anyway.

You'd have to download 70GB instead!

 

[ProvenDeadly]

Agreed. 20Gb is pretty beefy, even for those with moderately good internet. Kinda glad consoles can update while in standby.

But don't you have to have a disc in for updates?

 

[HardRojo]

Holy shit that's a lot of content! It just went gold too. Better pick it up at midnight and let the rest of the content download while you sleep or go to work.

 

[JaggedSac]

it will download it automatically.

Yes, but the problem is will it download before or after midnight. Some people preload so they can play exactly at the midnight EST. If this has to be downloaded after that point, it becomes a pain in the ass.

 

[Metalingus5150]

Jesus Christ.

 

[Xbudz]

Adding in Reach and ODST at the last minute?

I lol'd

 

[Valor]

Seems legit.

 

[Spades]

If the worst thing about this game is having too much content to fit on a disk than we are in for a real treat.

I know, right.